pogi Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Any campaign against cultural expectations in the Church, I think is a worthwhile and worthy campaign. 2
urroner Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 People, if these women were truly serious about changing the culture within the Church then every last one of them would do something like this. I'm sure then that they would get the attentions of the General Authorities. Tattoos and piercings, all in one fell swoop.Personally, I don't think there is enough eye shadow, but I could be mistaken.
Popular Post rodheadlee Posted December 13, 2012 Popular Post Posted December 13, 2012 Gee whizz, you all need to get out more often. I wore shorts, t-shirt and sandals to church last Sunday and nobody blinked an eye. Then I went and changed into my Mormon uniform. The point is no one made me feel wierd for showing up that way, they were just happy to have us show up. 5
wenglund Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 People, if these women were truly serious about changing the culture within the Church then every last one of them would do something like this. I'm sure then that they would get the attentions of the General Authorities. Tattoos and piercings, all in one fell swoop.Personally, I don't think there is enough eye shadow, but I could be mistaken.forget about the eye shadow, it makes me wonder how a person like that fares around large magnets and metal detectors.Thanks, -Wade Englund-
The Nehor Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I move we all wear jeans and tye-dye shirts this Sunday to protest Blood Atonement. Who is with me? 1
Hamba Tuhan Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I move we all wear jeans and tye-dye shirts this Sunday to protest Blood Atonement. Who is with me?I don't have a tie-dyed shirt, but maybe we could just move up No Pants Day (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Pants_Day)? The local forecast for this Sunday is 30C, so that would 'suit' me just fine.
Calm Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 It shouldn't, but if there's one thing that gets me disproportionately riled, it's beard prejudice. It stems from nothing more than cultural views and attitudes of the 60s still affecting those in senior leadership.Sigh... It shouldn't bother me, but it does. The idea that a veil worker can't be bearded is slightly illogical and ironic given what their role is in the temple. I'm afraid I often grow a winter beard as a mild show of independence. I find it gets a slightly more surprised reaction than when I take a bottle of Bud to PEC.My husband has had a beard for eons as I prefer him with it. Only one time was it an issue, when he was a high councillor with a rather conservative SP, but in the bishopric and as an EQ Pres no one has said anything, even now being in Utah. Different areas in Utah are different. None of the women in my ward as far as I can tell are following any trends once they are past high school age.
Nominee Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 People, if these women were truly serious about changing the culture within the Church then every last one of them would do something like this. I'm sure then that they would get the attentions of the General Authorities. Tattoos and piercings, all in one fell swoop.Personally, I don't think there is enough eye shadow, but I could be mistaken.I think this is a guy.
Calm Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 People, if these women were truly serious about changing the culture within the Church then every last one of them would do something like this. I'm sure then that they would get the attentions of the General Authorities. Tattoos and piercings, all in one fell swoop.Personally, I don't think there is enough eye shadow, but I could be mistaken.Ow....just ow...
Nominee Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Ow....just ow...Really , I've been roughed up by facial scrub before so I can't even imagine...
wenglund Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I don't have a tie-dyed shirt...They aren't that difficult to make. Take any colored shirt. Bunch it up and wrap twine around several of the bunches. Then put the shirt in Clorox for awhile. Take it out, cut the twine, rinse it off. and dry it out, and wear it to church. Instant hippie!Thanks, -Wade Englund-
urroner Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 It's a woman. There is no beard nor mustache hairs and how possible is that with all those piercings? But if it's a man, I still think that the women who want to do the pants thing should do this instead.BTW, a couple of surrogate daughters of mine wanted me to buy them some makeup a while back, so I went to Lowe's and bought them some. They were not amused. 2
Calm Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Lot of baldness there for a woman. Could have had laser treatment for the beard. Would have been less than for the hair though if she? had been treating her hair that badly for that long, the hairline would recede some...as is evidenced in ballerinas who for decades pull their hair back extremely tightly thus damaging the hair follicles if I remember my health cases sufficiently well.Looking at it again the hairline could have been shaved, tattoos but not piercings in that area.Don't piercings need to be removed frequently to clean them? Though doing that daily would be time consuming.I've got to stop looking at it, it is making me ill just imagining all those insertions and punctures. I don't have a problem with others' blood, but I have learned due to taking care of incisions after surgery that when it comes to me and pulling on skin in any way painful, I get faint and nauseated...not a candidate for any kind of cosmetic surgery thank you, one pair of pierced ears...and only because clip ons hurt too much...for me. Edited December 13, 2012 by calmoriah
Senator Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) But enough about pants...In the next life, I want to have a serious chat with the person who invented the necktie!I could care less about the person who invented it.But I do have a thing called "an arm bar" for the peeps that requires the wearing of them! Edited December 13, 2012 by Senator
Senator Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 (edited) Yeah, just try being a guy and wear a non-white shirt to church.I wear a white shirt maybe twice a year. Edited December 13, 2012 by Senator
thesometimesaint Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 People, if these women were truly serious about changing the culture within the Church then every last one of them would do something like this. I'm sure then that they would get the attentions of the General Authorities. Tattoos and piercings, all in one fell swoop.Personally, I don't think there is enough eye shadow, but I could be mistaken.Now that even looks painful.
BCSpace Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I think Trotter's statement in response to this effectively neutralized this issue. In other words, this group is going to have to really go out on a limb and cause their members to put themselves into positions of direct apostasy in order to get more notice.I think Trotters statement is a bit misleading, the Hand Book does contain a section about wearing white shirts - though the Handbook leaves room for non-white shirts.Recommended for blessing and passing the sacrament but not required to participate. See Handbook II 20.4.1, the only mention of white shirts in the entire work.
Bart Burk Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Recommended for blessing and passing the sacrament but not required to participate. See Handbook II 20.4.1, the only mention of white shirts in the entire work.Here's the quote from the handbook:Those who bless and pass the sacrament should dress modestly and be well groomed and clean. Clothing or jewelry should not call attention to itself or distract members during the sacrament. Ties and white shirts are recommended because they add to the dignity of the ordinance. However, they should not be required as a mandatory prerequisite for a priesthood holder to participate. Nor should it be required that all be alike in dress and appearance. Bishops should use discretion when giving such guidance to young men, taking into account their financial circumstances and maturity in the Church.Unfortunately, many priesthood leaders only praise those who wear a white shirt while participating. As in everything in the LDS Church, local leaders tend to make their own rules. 1
thesometimesaint Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 We tend to live by the injunction of "Unless it is prohibited it is permissible".
changed Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Here's the meridian article on it:http://ldsmag.com/article/1/11915I agree, why can't people just come to church for the sole purpose of growing closer to God?
Duncan Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 We tend to live by the injunction of "Unless it is prohibited it is permissible".wish we did that around here, it seems that if something isn't in the handbook it means no way jose-my thinking is if SLC doesn't care then why should we? 1
Avatar4321 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 I saw this yesterday. A lot of my female friends on facebook were posting it. It's ridiculous.1) Women wear pants at Church all the time without anyone taking a second look at it.2) What does it prove? Men and women are equal as it is, how is wearing pants going to make them more equal? Especially when they already wear pants.3) Since women already do wear pants in Church, wouldn't the real push for "equality" between the genders come from men wanting to wear dresses to Church?This is just absurd. Wearing pants or a dress isnt going to make anyone more or less equal than another person.
Avatar4321 Posted December 13, 2012 Posted December 13, 2012 Yeah, just try being a guy and wear a non-white shirt to church.Although I wore a black shirt and tie to church a couple of weeks ago and nobody commented upon it.I have. In fact, I think i've worn polo shirts, though I dont like that much. I much prefer a button down shirt. And my wife likes them too, so I like to keep her happy.
Avatar4321 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 The Gospel of Jesus Christ is the only thing in this world worth dressing up for if you ask me!You haven't met my wife;)
Avatar4321 Posted December 14, 2012 Posted December 14, 2012 Any campaign against cultural expectations in the Church, I think is a worthwhile and worthy campaign.Even those who have no real impact and don't really effect any issues whatsoever?
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