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Should be interesting to see how this works out. 

I can kinda see why they did this. There is a value in Elders quorum and Relief Society meeting each week to discuss needs of members and such. 

Still, completing a lesson in 25 minutes minus time for announcement, logistics, closing prayer....  will be tough. Some weeks, completing a lesson in 50 minutes is tough.

Posted

I think this is a great idea, at first I was thinking the block was only going to be an hour. I heard someone say this was being tried out somewhere. But I misunderstood apparently. I think people will actually need to start on time and be on time! 

Posted
28 minutes ago, Prof said:

Should be interesting to see how this works out. 

I can kinda see why they did this. There is a value in Elders quorum and Relief Society meeting each week to discuss needs of members and such. 

Still, completing a lesson in 25 minutes minus time for announcement, logistics, closing prayer....  will be tough. Some weeks, completing a lesson in 50 minutes is tough.

If you’re teaching youth, the first 10-minutes has to be “current events”, so real lesson time will likely net out to about 15-minutes. But this may also reflect how the modern attention span has shrunk in the doom-scrolling age.

Posted (edited)

I’m shocked.  As GD teacher, this will be very interesting- enough time to teach a single concept and then we out. Hmmmm- 

well now that women can ring the bell, we return to the need for it 😂

Edited by MustardSeed
Posted

As a former youth SS teacher, I welcome the change because trying to fill an hour with a short CFM lesson and non-responsive students is miserable.  As a current RS teacher, I'm a little concerned about having enough time for a meaningful lesson, especially if they continue the "counseling together" thing at the beginning of each RS. As it is, sometimes those discussions really eat into my lesson time. 

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27 minutes ago, Ginger Snaps said:

As a former youth SS teacher, I welcome the change because trying to fill an hour with a short CFM lesson and non-responsive students is miserable.  As a current RS teacher, I'm a little concerned about having enough time for a meaningful lesson, especially if they continue the "counseling together" thing at the beginning of each RS. As it is, sometimes those discussions really eat into my lesson time. 

They announced at the same time that the counsel together thing will not continue due to the time constraints. That makes me kind of sad but there’s no way around it with a 25 minute lesson. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, bsjkki said:

This will be great for those of us with ADHD. 😂😂

And RLS, lol

Posted
1 hour ago, Vanguard said:

I believe there will be some teachers (more likely in youth SS) who will simply wing it. 5-10 mins to get started will leave scarcely enough time and some teachers will decide it's not worth it.

They need some teacher training on how to choose what to focus on and how to keep it focused. 

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My sisters and SIL with little ones aren't ecstatic about it. They were saying that getting their children to nursery and such is already hard enough, but knowing that they will possibly miss Sunday School is a bummer for them. My SIL said, "So it's Sacrament Meeting and then an hour of mingling in the halls." And I couldn't help but laugh. Me being in a YSA, this doesn't mean too much, since my ward actually moves from place to place pretty fast.

Posted

I noticed that the actual announcement said:
"sacrament meeting will continue to be no longer than 60 minutes"

So maybe the Bishops will have the option of making it shorter to give more time for moving into Sunday school if it is needed for His particular ward.

Posted

I hope this isn’t a precursor to resuming a 3- hr block. “This is too hard. There’s not enough time between meetings.” Pres. Oaks, “3-hr church it is.” Lol! 

Posted
1 hour ago, JAHS said:

I noticed that the actual announcement said:
"sacrament meeting will continue to be no longer than 60 minutes"

So maybe the Bishops will have the option of making it shorter to give more time for moving into Sunday school if it is needed for His particular ward.

I’m assuming it means that if the speaker gets done a little early that you don’t have to try to push it to 60 minutes. But who knows. 

Posted

Initial reaction: not a fan.

If we're going to go back to weekly meetings in each class, then just go back to three hours.

Don't get me wrong, I love going back to having weekly check-ins with the youth in both classes again - I see that as a positive change - but 25 minutes seems way too short to me.

I would almost prefer they cut Sacrament Meeting down to 30 minutes, with a 10 minute overage / transition time, and then allow 40 minutes for each class. 

In most cases, that would just mean cutting a speaker and maybe an extra hymn or two, or (miracle of miracles) getting the High Council speaker to deliver a reasonably long talk. The only downside would be when it comes to Fast Sunday as there would be very little time for testimonies.

I'm happy to give the new plan a shot, but I suspect you're still going to run into situations where sacrament runs long, the young men don't have enough time to break down the sacrament table, etc. and Sunday School is going to get short shrift. I know Primary has to put up with quite a bit of that already, but 8 year olds can get by with only a 15 minute lesson. For youth adults, that's barely going to be anything and is going to feel a lot like musical chairs.

 

Posted
1 hour ago, Amulek said:

Initial reaction: not a fan.

If we're going to go back to weekly meetings in each class, then just go back to three hours.

Don't get me wrong, I love going back to having weekly check-ins with the youth in both classes again - I see that as a positive change - but 25 minutes seems way too short to me.

I would almost prefer they cut Sacrament Meeting down to 30 minutes, with a 10 minute overage / transition time, and then allow 40 minutes for each class. 

In most cases, that would just mean cutting a speaker and maybe an extra hymn or two, or (miracle of miracles) getting the High Council speaker to deliver a reasonably long talk. The only downside would be when it comes to Fast Sunday as there would be very little time for testimonies.

I'm happy to give the new plan a shot, but I suspect you're still going to run into situations where sacrament runs long, the young men don't have enough time to break down the sacrament table, etc. and Sunday School is going to get short shrift. I know Primary has to put up with quite a bit of that already, but 8 year olds can get by with only a 15 minute lesson. For youth adults, that's barely going to be anything and is going to feel a lot like musical chairs.

 

In my ward my gospel doctrine is in the first overflow of the chapel and I have to wait for the chapel to clear and then pull the curtain closed and get the tv and power point program set up. That has always taken at least 10-15 min after Sac mtg. I may have to make some adjustments. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Ginger Snaps said:

Does anyone know why they’re waiting until September to implement? 

Changes like this are often announced months before they happen to give people time to prepare for it.
Wards might need to extend more callings for the classes to be taught every Sunday.
There are probably places in the world that have not even head about this yet.
There is a new youth guide that needs to get printed for their class.

Posted

Maybe separate the genders after sacrament. Youth in 2 different rooms, adults in 2 different rooms. Then just switch teachers not the people.😏

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, blackstrap said:

Maybe separate the genders after sacrament. Youth in 2 different rooms, adults in 2 different rooms. Then just switch teachers not the people.😏

I was thinking about changing teachers as a possibility (wasn’t sure how it could work), but how much interaction happens between YM and YW at church in other ways?  Serious question as haven’t been involved in these activities for 20 years.  

Edited by Calm
Posted

Given how the church likes to test new things out on wards before they are implemented, I bet that this has been tried out in a few wards for a while and so the leadership has an idea of how it's going to go.  

Posted

Timing may be geared to having the For The Strength of Youth monthly magazine prepped in time as it is a major source of lesson material to go along with the newly revised (this week, online) FSY pamphlet.

 

You'd be hard-pressed to do 4 lessons each month on each of the 12 chapters of the new pamphlet, which is why the youth magazine will heavily supplement weekly lessons on that topic for that month.

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