Mississippi Bishop Resigns from the Pulpit

[Diamondhands69]

15 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Not many, only a few. Other punishments for apostasy are more common such as being legally disinherited or imprisoned. Extrajudicial killings for apostasy are more common.

I think it is law in six or seven Muslim countries. 

[Calm]

56 minutes ago, Stargazer said:

Also, wine made specifically for cooking is definitely not drinking quality. 

It wasn’t cooking wine (that has salt added, no way), we got it at the state liquor store along with vodka as my husband wants to make his own vanilla as a neighbour gave us some for Christmas.  I did use a brand that was recommended to cook with, so maybe they didn’t care about taste as well, though it was just a cooking site, so unlikely a teetotaler.  It wasn’t expensive, a Pinot Sav something.  Now I am really curious as to what a good quality tastes like.  It did fine for what we cooked with, delicious.

Edited January 18, 2024 by Calm

[Stargazer]

10 minutes ago, Calm said:

It wasn’t cooking wine (that has salt added, no way), we got it at the state liquor store along with vodka as my husband wants to make his own vanilla as a neighbour gave us some for Christmas.  I did use a brand that was recommended to cook with, so maybe they didn’t care about taste as well, though it was just a cooking site, so unlikely a teetotaler.  It wasn’t expensive, a Pinot Sav something.  Now I am really curious as to what a good quality tastes like.  It did fine for what we cooked with, delicious.

What was it what you cooked with the Pinot Sav? If it's nice, I might like to try it.

My late wife was a medicinal herbalist. Since she was interested in that, I naturally picked up some of what she had going. So, as an experiment I made a tincture of licorice root using vodka. It was supposed to be a remedy for stomach ache -- something I didn't get as a rule, but whatever, we had the licorice root, so I went with what we had. After I made it (in a test tube), it just sat in the medicine cabinet for about a year. And then one day I actually got a very sour stomach, for no reason that I could come up with. I remembered the licorice tincture and tried it. I drank a small amount, and got immediate relief. I was actually quite surprised, because I wasn't really totally onboard with the medicinal herb thing. I half-expected it to be a bust. 

I love chili, and wanted a good recipe to make my own because canned chili is normally not worth eating. And then one of my favorite YouTube chefs ("Food Wishes" with Chef John) put out a chili recipe video -> "Beef, Bean & Beer Chili Recipe." It looked good, so I just had to try it. The first time I made it, I made it exactly according to the recipe, including the beer. It was great! I've since modified it to suit my own tastes, but along the way I've tried making it without beer, with non-alcoholic beer, and with Guinness, a strong dark beer. I could never detect any significant difference no matter how it went. So I stopped using beer. No value to it. 

Isn't there a recipe exchange topic in the Social Hall?

[bluebell]

1 hour ago, Stargazer said:

Many years ago I caught a REALLY bad cold, and my wife gave me full-octane Nyquil. Man, it fixed me right up, but the side effect was that I slept so soundly that she couldn't wake me for hours. It was like, I can vaguely tell someone is talking to me and shaking me, but I was out for the count.

I react badly to sudafed so the two times I took nyquil (the old formula) it almost did me in.  No sleep, racing heart, dilated pupils, cognitive impairments. I was a mess.  The new formula just makes me a little groggy.

[Amulek]

4 hours ago, Diamondhands69 said:

No need to be sorry.. oddly enough in my own experience the only fights (or really stupid drunk people)  have seen in neighborhood parties vs ballgames have 100% been at the games. Liquor license didn’t prevent anything. They can serve you till you can’t hold your liquor. Just last sat eve my family was at a sports bar watching the game and there was a 60 yr old lady stumbling around everywhere drunk off her butt. A license doesn’t prevent anything, just allows the seller to be held accountable for a few things… esp taxes

I'm not worried about people being over-served. I'm worried about minors being able to easily access alcohol.

The risk of losing your liquor license (and worse) provides a significant incentive for establishments to take precautions ensuring minors aren't being served and aren't able to readily access alcohol.

There aren't really any analogous controls in place for casual parties - at least, not at any of the ones I've ever been to.

 

[Amulek]

4 hours ago, rodheadlee said:

one of the worst things in the world is being sober around a bunch of drunks.

PS I have had a lot of experience at it

Ah...if only they were as funny as they think they are when they've been drinking.

 

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Stargazer said:

What was it what you cooked with the Pinot Sav? If it's nice, I might like to try it.

Cioppino with clams (make sure they are small, we got large, big mistake), mussels, lobster, fresh tilapia, fresh shrimp.  Used homemade fish broth (the lobster shells came in handy for that).  We decided next time skip the lobster (didn’t add much for the cost) and clams.  We may turn that into a New Year’s tradition. 

Edited January 19, 2024 by Calm

[MustardSeed]

I have no issues being around drinking people.  I dislike tremendously being around drunk people. 

[Peacefully]

I’m glad I joined the church because I was a very sad drunk. I would just end up crying and bringing everyone down. I don’t serve alcohol at my parties now but I have no problem being at a party where alcohol is served. I would probably leave if people started acting like fools, though. 

[bluebell]

3 hours ago, Peacefully said:

I’m glad I joined the church because I was a very sad drunk. I would just end up crying and bringing everyone down. I don’t serve alcohol at my parties now but I have no problem being at a party where alcohol is served. I would probably leave if people started acting like fools, though. 

My mother in law is sad when she's had too much to drink and my father in law is happy/manic when he's had too much to drink.  They are not a great pair to be around when they open up the wine.

[Peacefully]

26 minutes ago, bluebell said:

My mother in law is sad when she's had too much to drink and my father in law is happy/manic when he's had too much to drink.  They are not a great pair to be around when they open up the wine.

There are people who are social drinkers and never go past their limit. I wasn’t one of them. My husband and I both feel like the WOW saved us.

 

 

 

[Stormin' Mormon]

1 hour ago, Joshua said:

According to my understanding, you believe that people ought to respect the sacred convocation of sacrament meeting, but at the same time, you are okay with the fact that thousands of Mormon missionaries will knock on the door of thousands of sacred homes today in an attempt to convince the people who live inside the sacred homes that their religious beliefs are not true, but that the religious beliefs of the missionaries are true, and that the family that lives inside the sacred home ought to accept the beliefs of the missionaries if the family wants to live together in heaven? You don't find that to be hypocritical? 

 

 

I would, if LDS missionaries were generally in the practice of gaining access to homes under the pretense that they would talk to the residents about A, B, and C, but instead deliver a message about X, Y, and Z.  But they don't, so I don't.  LDS missionaries, much like vampires, must be invited in if they are to gain access to a home.

Edited January 19, 2024 by Stormin' Mormon

[Diamondhands69]

1 hour ago, Joshua said:

Within the context of the church, numerous lessons have been taught that the home is a hallowed place for the family that is located within it. One can visit the website of the church and read dozens of articles that discuss the sanctity that can be discovered inside the confines of a home. Why would the Mormon church send missionaries to disrupt the sacredness that can be found in family homes all across the world if this is what the faith teaches?  

 

Only Mormon homes dedicated by a melchezedic priesthood holder are “hallowed.” Everyone else is just playing church so the notion their peace should be respected is not valid. They are not and can never truly be happy or have any joy unless they are Mormon with a huge punch list of works they have to do. 
 

So no - non Mormon homes do not deserve any respect or consideration.
 

At least that would be the Sunday school class answer. 

[Stargazer]

11 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

I have no issues being around drinking people.  I dislike tremendously being around drunk people. 

Same here. As I said in an earlier post, I grew up around it. Someone wants to crack a cold one when I'm present, fine, go right ahead.

But occasionally you can run into folks who can be downright obnoxious about insisting that you join them in their cups. I've been in that particular situation a few times. Makes the horror of having the missionaries present at your block party quite silly.

[Stargazer]

2 hours ago, Joshua said:

According to my understanding, you believe that people ought to respect the sacred convocation of sacrament meeting, but at the same time, you are okay with the fact that thousands of Mormon missionaries will knock on the door of thousands of sacred homes today in an attempt to convince the people who live inside the sacred homes that their religious beliefs are not true, but that the religious beliefs of the missionaries are true, and that the family that lives inside the sacred home ought to accept the beliefs of the missionaries if the family wants to live together in heaven? You don't find that to be hypocritical? 

Yeah, let's take it to the extremes of silliness. 

So, the horror of Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen coming to the door of your sacred home to convince you to buy their overpriced machines. Or the horror of the political candidate who comes to the door of your sacred home to present his or her views on the state of the state and what he or she can do to fix things. Or much worse, the postman who comes to the door of your sacred home to deliver letters from people you'd rather not hear from, bills from frantic creditors, and, oh please God help us, that horrifying junk mail.

Just stop it. You're making yourself look ridiculous.

[Calm]

2 hours ago, Joshua said:

According to my point of view, the home of the family is more sacred than any church building, regardless of the faith. Do you agree with this point of view? 

As long as they don’t walk inside and force a captive audience to listen to the lessons, how are the two really comparable?  No one has to answer the door even and if they do, just say no thanks and shut the door.

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Stormin' Mormon said:

LDS missionaries, much like vampires, must be invited in

[Stargazer]

7 minutes ago, Calm said:

As long as they don’t walk inside and force a captive audience to listen to the lessons, how are the two really comparable?  No one has to answer the door even and if they do, just say no thanks and shut the door.

That's apparently too much work for some people. The same people who refused to look at the snake on Moses's staff in order to be healed.

 

[Diamondhands69]

50 minutes ago, Stargazer said:

Yeah, let's take it to the extremes of silliness. 

So, the horror of Kirby vacuum cleaner salesmen coming to the door of your sacred home to convince you to buy their overpriced machines. Or the horror of the political candidate who comes to the door of your sacred home to present his or her views on the state of the state and what he or she can do to fix things. Or much worse, the postman who comes to the door of your sacred home to deliver letters from people you'd rather not hear from, bills from frantic creditors, and, oh please God help us, that horrifying junk mail.

Just stop it. You're making yourself look ridiculous.

You look equally ridiculous. 
 

people buy vacuums, they want their mail ( except for bills), they will likely vote for one candidate or the other but the likelihood they will join the church is next to zero. We should leave people alone. Esp here. Everyone knows who the Mormons are. If they want to join the church they will…. So far round here no one is. Latest convert bragg I have heard is a 9 year old from an lds family. Other than that, the missionaries are stuck with dealing with people like me who are not amused with being a ward project. 
 

I like how you describe this as a “horror”. Talk about ridiculous he didn’t even say that. You don’t need to make things up to get your point across. 

Edited January 19, 2024 by Diamondhands69

[gopher]

55 minutes ago, Diamondhands69 said:

Only Mormon homes dedicated by a melchezedic priesthood holder are “hallowed.” Everyone else is just playing church so the notion their peace should be respected is not valid. They are not and can never truly be happy or have any joy unless they are Mormon with a huge punch list of works they have to do. 
 

So no - non Mormon homes do not deserve any respect or consideration.
 

At least that would be the Sunday school class answer. 

Are you sure you aren't trying a bit too hard?  I'd hate to see you resort to posting nekkid pics to get anyone to pay attention to you.  That wasn't received well last time it happened.  I'm kidding, of course.

[Diamondhands69]

13 minutes ago, gopher said:

Are you sure you aren't trying a bit too hard?  I'd hate to see you resort to posting nekkid pics to get anyone to pay attention to you.  That wasn't received well last time it happened.  I'm kidding, of course.

I’ve never posted naked pics so you should delete your stupid reply and try again. 
 

trying too hard?? Where in my post am I wrong? 

Edited January 19, 2024 by Diamondhands69

[Amulek]

1 hour ago, Diamondhands69 said:

Only Mormon homes dedicated by a melchezedic priesthood holder are “hallowed.” Everyone else is just playing church so the notion their peace should be respected is not valid. They are not and can never truly be happy or have any joy unless they are Mormon with a huge punch list of works they have to do. 

So no - non Mormon homes do not deserve any respect or consideration.

At least that would be the Sunday school class answer. 

I've never met somebody who failed Sunday school, but I guess there's a first time for everything.

 

[gopher]

4 minutes ago, Diamondhands69 said:

I’ve never posted naked pics so you should delete your stupid reply and try again. 
 

trying too hard?? Where in my post am I wrong? 

Lighten up, Francis.  You must have missed the recent posts on this website from a now banned poster.

If you can't spot the problems with your post, I won't be able to help much.

[Stargazer]

23 minutes ago, Diamondhands69 said:

You look equally ridiculous. 

I was trying to look ridiculous. Missed the turn, did you?

23 minutes ago, Diamondhands69 said:

people buy vacuums, they want their mail ( except for bills), they will likely vote for one candidate or the other but the likelihood they will join the church is next to zero. We should leave people alone. Esp here. Everyone knows who the Mormons are. If they want to join the church they will…. So far round here no one is. Latest convert bragg I have heard is a 9 year old from an lds family. Other than that, the missionaries are stuck with dealing with people like me who are not amused with being a ward project. 

And yet, we do find that sometimes non-members living among the Mormons will, actually, respond to the missionaries and investigate the church. And some join it. Would this have happened if the missionaries weren't trying to find interest. Maybe, maybe not.

I understand your position. You think the church is one big fat lie. So obviously, to you the missionaries are out deceiving people with lies (even if they believe the lies). Therefore, it is a heinous activity to go door to door peddling those lies.

Well, I love the one-dimensional thinking. It kind of breaks up the monotony.

23 minutes ago, Diamondhands69 said:

I like how you describe this as a “horror”. Talk about ridiculous he didn’t even say that. You don’t need to make things up to get your point across. 

Do you not understand humor? Or perhaps I was using sarcasm. Sometimes it's hard to tell them apart.

[Diamondhands69]

5 minutes ago, Amulek said:

I've never met somebody who failed Sunday school, but I guess there's a first time for everything.

 

Point out any untruth in my post