Do you wear "Sunday best" when you watch conference at home?

[Anijen]

2 hours ago, Nacho2dope said:

I don’t need any direction I am very comfortable in what I wear during conference. I was just curious if any prophet or apostle had said anything on what was appropriate to wear while watching conference at home. Thanks 

I remember one conference (a priesthood session), it was very hot and President Benson took off his suit coat, then most the brethren in the tabernacle followed his example. I guess if he can do that at conference for comfort, we should feel alright being comfortable in our own homes.

[MorningStar]

I wear tight pants during conference. Thank you for asking. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1c2KzJbcGA

[The Nehor]

On 9/30/2019 at 8:48 PM, Scott Lloyd said:

Queen Victoria was a practitioner of “the royal ‘we’,” as in “we are not amused.”

So you, with your penchant for plural pronouns to refer to singular nouns, may have more in common with Queen Victoria than you realize. 

Reminds me of the Blackadder Christmas Carol:

”We are Queen Victoria.”

”What? All three of you?”

[Scott Lloyd]

4 hours ago, SettingDogStar said:

To me, however, dressing up really fancy for operas and such is a “worldly” tradition. It was intended to show off wealth, fancy, and fashion. All those events you dress up for are things the world has created and that the world views with a certain respect and dignity. If you showed up to a very fancy ball with jeans people would stare and judge you.

I don’t really dress up to church because God doesn’t look on the outside at all, He only cares about the inside. He won’t judge me at all and since I’m not there to judge anyone or to be judged by anyone but God, I just wear a nice pair of jeans and a collared shirt (can’t wear my T-shirt’s, wife doesn’t approve haha).

Wearing a suit will get you no more revelation then a t-shirt and Jeans. I don’t think It’s disrespectful because I don’t think God cares. 

But it also doesn’t matter in the end. If you, or anyone, is pulled closer to God because you part of your preparation includes dress then more power to you! Whatever works to get you closer to God is a good thing.

Your opinion would carry more weight with me if it could be shown that the anointed prophets and apostles over the years have been careless and casual about how they dress when appearing in public to carry out the duties of their sacred office. But that is far from true.

[Scott Lloyd]

2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Reminds me of the Blackadder Christmas Carol:

”We are Queen Victoria.”

”What? All three of you?”

A humorous illustration of the awkwardness and hazard of using a plural pronoun to refer to a singular noun.

[Scott Lloyd]

3 hours ago, Anijen said:

I remember one conference (a priesthood session), it was very hot and President Benson took off his suit coat, then most the brethren in the tabernacle followed his example. I guess if he can do that at conference for comfort, we should feel alright being comfortable in our own homes.

I remember that occasion. It was a very long time ago, in the days when conference was held in the non-air-conditioned Salt Lake Tabernacle. I might even have been present in the tabernacle for that meeting.

[Hamba Tuhan]

3 hours ago, Anijen said:

I remember one conference (a priesthood session), it was very hot and President Benson took off his suit coat, then most the brethren in the tabernacle followed his example.

It has been my impression -- created by numerous photos in the Ensign as well as in the Church News -- that only around half or fewer of males who attend the priesthood session of General Conference even wear suit jackets. Am I wrong?

[SettingDogStar]

6 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Your opinion would carry more weight with me if it could be shown that the anointed prophets and apostles over the years have been careless and casual about how they dress when appearing in public to carry out the duties of their sacred office. But that is far from true.

Jesus didn’t wear the formal wear of the Rabbi. Joseph Smith saw the Father and Son and an angel while wearing farmer clothes and night wear respectively. Moroni appeared to Joseph in a simple white robe, no fancy or fashion. Peter ripped off his shirt and swam to Jesus when he saw him and seemingly felt no shame in doing so, even eating with him afterwards.

God could have offered and created beautiful and respectful clothes for Adam and Eve, however He seemed to be just fine with lambskin clothes. John the Baptist (admitted by Joseph and Jesus to be among the greatest prophets) wore camel hair and got to baptize the Savior.

Nephi was dressed in traveling clothes (since he said they left all their riches behind) and had no suit but he had visions. Alma and Amulek rent the walls of the prison and communed with angels while having their clothes stripped from.

Alma performed immense miracles with the King even while being a slave (thus not being offered clothes of fancy, He was a sheep herder). 

A miracle can be performed just as effectively in a T-shirt and jeans then it can in a suit and tie. Is there harm in wearing a suit? No. Is there harm in dressing according to the needs of day? Nope. 

Carrying out the sacred duty of an office in the church requires no formal display, just a willing heart and charity. Jesus made this abundantly clear in the scriptures. Even D&C makes mention that our clothes ought to be plain but beautiful.

So I hope my opinion carries a little more weight now.

 

[Jake Starkey]

I normally watch on TV in my jammies with a hot chocolate and buttered toast with grape jam.

[bluebell]

7 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said:

It has been my impression -- created by numerous photos in the Ensign as well as in the Church News -- that only around half or fewer of males who attend the priesthood session of General Conference even wear suit jackets. Am I wrong?

 

No, you aren't wrong.  

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, SettingDogStar said:

Jesus didn’t wear the formal wear of the Rabbi. Joseph Smith saw the Father and Son and an angel while wearing farmer clothes and night wear respectively. Moroni appeared to Joseph in a simple white robe, no fancy or fashion. Peter ripped off his shirt and swam to Jesus when he saw him and seemingly felt no shame in doing so, even eating with him afterwards.

God could have offered and created beautiful and respectful clothes for Adam and Eve, however He seemed to be just fine with lambskin clothes. John the Baptist (admitted by Joseph and Jesus to be among the greatest prophets) wore camel hair and got to baptize the Savior.

Nephi was dressed in traveling clothes (since he said they left all their riches behind) and had no suit but he had visions. Alma and Amulek rent the walls of the prison and communed with angels while having their clothes stripped from.

Alma performed immense miracles with the King even while being a slave (thus not being offered clothes of fancy, He was a sheep herder). 

A miracle can be performed just as effectively in a T-shirt and jeans then it can in a suit and tie. Is there harm in wearing a suit? No. Is there harm in dressing according to the needs of day? Nope. 

Carrying out the sacred duty of an office in the church requires no formal display, just a willing heart and charity. Jesus made this abundantly clear in the scriptures. Even D&C makes mention that our clothes ought to be plain but beautiful.

So I hope my opinion carries a little more weight now.

 

The reverse snobbishness though can be just as pridefully toxic. Holding suit coats in contempt is equally obnoxious. This becomes a snobbishness against formal clothing. The warning in the Book of Mormon was always against costly clothing and never against beautiful or good looking apparel.

[Jake Starkey]

Your opinion is that "Holding suit coats in contempt is equally obnoxious."  Who says?  You?  To be clean when possible is body and attire is all that is required, I would think.

This is helpful.

The Zoramites and Costly Apparel: Symbolism and Irony

Parrish Brady and Shon Hopkin

Journal of the Book of Mormon and Other Restoration Scripture

Vol. 22, No. 1 (2013), pp. 40-53

[Ahab]

3 hours ago, SettingDogStar said:

Jesus didn’t wear the formal wear of the Rabbi. Joseph Smith saw the Father and Son and an angel while wearing farmer clothes and night wear respectively. Moroni appeared to Joseph in a simple white robe, no fancy or fashion. Peter ripped off his shirt and swam to Jesus when he saw him and seemingly felt no shame in doing so, even eating with him afterwards.

God could have offered and created beautiful and respectful clothes for Adam and Eve, however He seemed to be just fine with lambskin clothes. John the Baptist (admitted by Joseph and Jesus to be among the greatest prophets) wore camel hair and got to baptize the Savior.

Nephi was dressed in traveling clothes (since he said they left all their riches behind) and had no suit but he had visions. Alma and Amulek rent the walls of the prison and communed with angels while having their clothes stripped from.

Alma performed immense miracles with the King even while being a slave (thus not being offered clothes of fancy, He was a sheep herder). 

A miracle can be performed just as effectively in a T-shirt and jeans then it can in a suit and tie. Is there harm in wearing a suit? No. Is there harm in dressing according to the needs of day? Nope. 

Carrying out the sacred duty of an office in the church requires no formal display, just a willing heart and charity. Jesus made this abundantly clear in the scriptures. Even D&C makes mention that our clothes ought to be plain but beautiful.

So I hope my opinion carries a little more weight now.

 

What I see from your comments is that people usually dress appropriately for whatever they are doing.  If you're farming you wear farming clothes. If you're fishing you wear fishing clothes. If you're tending sheep you wear sheep tending clothes. If you've had your clothes stripped from you and don't have anything to put on then you are naked until you find some clothes to put on.

Now let's talk about going to a church meeting on a Sunday, like a sacrament meeting.  What clothes do you think you should wear for that occasion?  Farming clothes? 

If that is all you have, sure, but if you can it would be better to put on something more appropriate for the occasion.

Oh, and by the way, how do you know Jesus didn't wear the formal wear of the Rabbi when he went to synagogues on Saturdays, before the formal day of worship was changed from Saturday to Sunday?  Was that really a thing?  What was it like, as a rule?

Edited October 2, 2019 by Ahab

[Scott Lloyd]

19 hours ago, SettingDogStar said:

Jesus didn’t wear the formal wear of the Rabbi. Joseph Smith saw the Father and Son and an angel while wearing farmer clothes and night wear respectively. Moroni appeared to Joseph in a simple white robe, no fancy or fashion. Peter ripped off his shirt and swam to Jesus when he saw him and seemingly felt no shame in doing so, even eating with him afterwards.

God could have offered and created beautiful and respectful clothes for Adam and Eve, however He seemed to be just fine with lambskin clothes. John the Baptist (admitted by Joseph and Jesus to be among the greatest prophets) wore camel hair and got to baptize the Savior.

Nephi was dressed in traveling clothes (since he said they left all their riches behind) and had no suit but he had visions. Alma and Amulek rent the walls of the prison and communed with angels while having their clothes stripped from.

Alma performed immense miracles with the King even while being a slave (thus not being offered clothes of fancy, He was a sheep herder). 

A miracle can be performed just as effectively in a T-shirt and jeans then it can in a suit and tie. Is there harm in wearing a suit? No. Is there harm in dressing according to the needs of day? Nope. 

Carrying out the sacred duty of an office in the church requires no formal display, just a willing heart and charity. Jesus made this abundantly clear in the scriptures. Even D&C makes mention that our clothes ought to be plain but beautiful.

So I hope my opinion carries a little more weight now.

 

In each of the above the instances, either the person or persons were dressed appropriately for the time and the occasion, or there were extenuating circumstances such as an unexpected visitation or the person being inexperienced (such as Joseph Smith who later, one can safely assume, dressed up to conduct or attend Sabbath worship services. 

So no, I still don’t see a good reason not to conform to the general expectation that one dress up in “Sunday best” to attend worship services or to officiate or act in certain Church callings, as exemplified by the prophets and the apostles. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Scott Lloyd

[Jake Starkey]

The only appropriateness for determining the clothing is how the heart is clothed in approaching the sacrament.  Clothing means nothing.

[Scott Lloyd]

On 9/30/2019 at 4:27 PM, Calm said:

Nope, his description is accurate,  the little girls have bows in their neat and tidy hair.  The mom's top translates to "dress" for me, though the fabric it appears to be (lightweight and flowy) certainly can be used in shirts, but it looks higher quality from what little can be seen.

I wasn’t suggesting he was joking about what was in the photograph, but rather, about the notion itself of customarily dressing up to watch conference at home. The idea struck me as outlandish, and I don’t automatically mimic what I see in photographs. 

[Scott Lloyd]

5 minutes ago, Jake Starkey said:

The only appropriateness for determining the clothing is how the heart is clothed in approaching the sacrament.  Clothing means nothing.

So I presume you would think nothing of attending sacrament meeting in swimwear. 

[SettingDogStar]

6 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

In each of the above the instances, either the person or persons was dressed appropriately for the time and the occasion, or there were extenuating circumstances such as an unexpected visitation or the person being inexperienced (such as Joseph Smith who later, one can safely assume, dressed up to conduct or attend Sabbath worship services. 

So no, I still don’t see a good reason not to conform to the general expectation that one dress up in “Sunday best” to attend worship services or to officiate or act in certain Church callings, as exemplified by the prophets and the apostles. 

It’s good enough to me that Jesus said it doesn’t matter much, so I’m going with Him. It’s totally fine that you think that way if it helps you. However, I get just as much revelation as anyone else and have had just as many blessings as anyone else..clothes not withstanding. I don’t really care how the modern apostles dress because they choose to dress that way.

The Lord has never, and I mean never, commanded us to dress up for Him outside of sacred ordinances where clothing is symbolic or needed to perform the ritual. So until He commands otherwise, I’m good following Christ’s example. 

[Jake Starkey]

Fallacy of false equivalency, Scott Lloyd.  I don't go further than noting the inconsistency.  Be straight up, please.

I said if you heart is clothed right, you will be OK.  Try that.

Edited October 2, 2019 by Jake Starkey

[SettingDogStar]

2 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

So I presume you would think nothing of attending sacrament meeting in swimwear. 

I did it once, just to grab sacrament quickly cause we were at a family reunion down the street. I threw a shirt on and dried real quick and went into the lobby.

 

[SettingDogStar]

1 minute ago, Jake Starkey said:

Fallacy of false equivalency, Scott Lloyd.  I don't go further than noting the inconsistency.  Be straight up, please.

I said if you heart is clothed right, you will be OK.  Try that.

Agreed. 

[Raingirl]

8 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

In each of the above the instances, either the person or persons was dressed appropriately for the time and the occasion, or there were extenuating circumstances such as an unexpected visitation or the person being inexperienced (such as Joseph Smith who later, one can safely assume, dressed up to conduct or attend Sabbath worship services. 

So no, I still don’t see a good reason not to conform to the general expectation that one dress up in “Sunday best” to attend worship services or to officiate or act in certain Church callings, as exemplified by the prophets and the apostles. 

It always baffles me that people will whine about, and vehemently object to, dressing up for church, but will happily acquiesce to dressing up for work or any number of secular occasions. 

[SettingDogStar]

5 minutes ago, Raingirl said:

It always baffles me that people will whine about, and vehemently object to, dressing up for church, but will happily acquiesce to dressing up for work or any number of secular occasions. 

I’ll get fired if I don’t dress up for work, I won’t get damned for not dressing up to church.

[Scott Lloyd]

4 minutes ago, Raingirl said:

It always baffles me that people will whine about, and vehemently object to, dressing up for church, but will happily acquiesce to dressing up for work or any number of secular occasions. 

Yes. That was my point with the comparison to dressing up for the opera, symphony or formal dinners and awards presentations. That’s when I got twitted for being “worldly” — as though showing up for sacrament meeting in shorts and a T shirt when one can do better is being pure in heart and non-worldly. 

[Scott Lloyd]

14 hours ago, SettingDogStar said:

I’ll get fired if I don’t dress up for work, I won’t get damned for not dressing up to church.

I think it depends very much on your attitude. If your intent is just to defy convention and be rebellious, that could be problematic. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by Scott Lloyd