I just wanted to say

[MiserereNobis]

9 hours ago, juliann said:

For heaven’s sake, think of others and sit down. 

 I always sit down. I mean, who doesn’t want a little bit of time to take a break? 

[The Nehor]

Gender humor divides more then it unites.

[MustardSeed]

Today we had many “just wanted to says” but lots of women participated today.  I guess my plea to the internet universe was effective.

[Bernard Gui]

On 11/16/2018 at 3:27 PM, mfbukowski said:

....learning how to communicate with the other half of humanity to become one flesh.

 

 

Or in this case, one flush.

Edited November 19, 2018 by Bernard Gui

[Bernard Gui]

2 hours ago, MiserereNobis said:

 I always sit down. I mean, who doesn’t want a little bit of time to take a break? 

And do crossword puzzles.

[Bernard Gui]

On 11/15/2018 at 8:17 PM, MustardSeed said:

In my large ward, testimonies are shared mostly only by men.  Sunday school is male dominated in terms of participation.  I don’t think that’s typical.  My ward is, well, challenging for me at times. I used to participate to do my part but it doesn’t feel genuine and I’m sick of the sound of my ow voice.

Have you ever noticed that often times, women especially in a mixed sex crowd will state the following preface after being called upon:  “I just wanted to say...” etc.   

I hear that as an apologetic way of introducing thoughts.?

I rarely hear men say that.  They do, but not nearly as often as the women. 

Pet peeve, now passed into the internetic universe.  Thanks, I feel much better.   Edit to say, I don’t think the men are to blame.  Ladies of my ward, step it up!!

Not in any ward I have been in for the past 35 years at least.

[Bernard Gui]

On 11/16/2018 at 3:57 PM, pogi said:

That is a new take!  I don't think that is what most women have in mind when they ask their husbands to close the toilet...  I don't think they really care if we close it before or after we flush, they just want it closed.  

Physics may rule, but it doesn't set the rules.  From the article:

 

 

I don't know how we have survived death from toilet geysers for so long now. It's good to know so we can be safer in the future. Never cease to be amazed at the useful stuff I learn here.

Edited November 19, 2018 by Bernard Gui

[Scott Lloyd]

17 hours ago, bluebell said:

Sometimes jokes should die.  That seems to be how you feel about Utah jokes, for example.

I agree in principle that some jokes should die. I don’t believe I said otherwise. 

[Scott Lloyd]

On 11/16/2018 at 4:07 PM, Calm said:

Life is absurd at heart.  There is humor everywhere, no need to force it.  No need to resort to ridicule of others.

I don’t entirely agree. As absurd as some things are, it often takes humor to get some folks to recognize the absurdity — just as it sometimes takes Socratic questioning to spotlight logical inconsistency that might not otherwise be readily apparent in a position. 

[Scott Lloyd]

7 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Gender humor divides more then it unites.

It is not unlike identity politics in that respect. 

[The Nehor]

4 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said:

It is not unlike identity politics in that respect. 

I partially agree and a perfect world the whole concept would be irrelevant. In the current world too often the dislike of identity politics comes from those in a position of power feeling their voice is no longer dominant in areas where they were previously ignorantly explaining to others how they should feel and act in their current circumstance and drowning out the voices of those with first hand experience of being in that circumstance.

Of course as with almost everything some take this too far and tie their identity too far into something and the more ridiculous play competitive victimization games to try to acquire some kind of victimization superiority thinking that it will give them more of a voice. That being said excessive use does not discredit appropriate use.

[Scott Lloyd]

11 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

I partially agree and a perfect world the whole concept would be irrelevant. In the current world too often the dislike of identity politics comes from those in a position of power feeling their voice is no longer dominant in areas where they were previously ignorantly explaining to others how they should feel and act in their current circumstance and drowning out the voices of those with first hand experience of being in that circumstance.

Of course as with almost everything some take this too far and tie their identity too far into something and the more ridiculous play competitive victimization games to try to acquire some kind of victimization superiority thinking that it will give them more of a voice. That being said excessive use does not discredit appropriate use.

Nobody who takes identity politics too far ever agrees that he/she is doing so. That’s what makes it annoying. 

[MustardSeed]

I have never seen a group dissect stuff as much as this one does.  It’s like you all are trying to be the most intelligent, the most enlightened, the most aware.  It’s exhausting! I’m aware that I can simply walk away, but it was my thread and I’m trying to stay plugged in til it’s done.  

 

[mfbukowski]

23 hours ago, juliann said:

Tropes that target women used to be cute. Now they are seen for what they are. It is a window into the soul of anyone who could find this funny when the problems with have been so well explained. 

The toilet lid thoughtlessness begs the question. There is no reason for men to be standing in front of anything but a urinal. I think the only reason such an unhygienic practice has been allowed is because it is usually women cleaning up after them. It’s a gross learned habit where the convenience of the male is given priority over those who have to deal with the results. For heaven’s sake, think of others and sit down. 

I agree.

It should never be allowed.

I propose another constitutional amendment banning the practice, as well as a new federal branch of law enforcement, with cameras in every stall or bathroom. Privacy is simply a thing of the past and we all know it anyway.  And what does it matter now that we're all equal and gender differences have been erased? We have to protect the environment!  I am certain that toilet plume contributes to global warming as well.

How could it NOT? It's simply horrifying. I don't know if I will be able to sleep tonight.

Edited November 19, 2018 by mfbukowski

[mfbukowski]

15 minutes ago, MustardSeed said:

I have never seen a group dissect stuff as much as this one does.  It’s like you all are trying to be the most intelligent, the most enlightened, the most aware.  It’s exhausting! I’m aware that I can simply walk away, but it was my thread and I’m trying to stay plugged in til it’s done.  

 

Getting the word out makes this perhaps the most important thread that I have ever seen on this board.

I hope the thread lasts for years so that these horrible practices can stop immediately.

[The Nehor]

30 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said:

Nobody who takes identity politics too far ever agrees that he/she is doing so. That’s what makes it annoying. 

And people who mansplain and whitesplain never agree they are doing it which I imagine is equally annoying so at least there is symmetry.

[mfbukowski]

1 hour ago, The Nehor said:

I partially agree and a perfect world the whole concept would be irrelevant. In the current world too often the dislike of identity politics comes from those in a position of power feeling their voice is no longer dominant in areas where they were previously ignorantly explaining to others how they should feel and act in their current circumstance and drowning out the voices of those with first hand experience of being in that circumstance.

Of course as with almost everything some take this too far and tie their identity too far into something and the more ridiculous play competitive victimization games to try to acquire some kind of victimization superiority thinking that it will give them more of a voice. That being said excessive use does not discredit appropriate use.

There, there I know exactly how you feel.

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[MustardSeed]

31 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Getting the word out makes this perhaps the most important thread that I have ever seen on this board.

I hope the thread lasts for years so that these horrible practices can stop immediately.

Edited November 19, 2018 by MustardSeed
Changed my mind, decided it’s a private issue.

[pogi]

On 11/16/2018 at 5:02 PM, Calm said:

Whether or not it makes someone sick, it is disgusting for most people thinking you are brushing your teeth with feces, I am guessing,.

I have seen it referred to in a couple of TV shows and I don't watch sitcoms, so I don't think it is all that new.

I have to go wash myself after my dog licks me seeing I have seen her lick her butt even more.

It may be an obsession on my part, but I am thinking once it registers with someone it might be hard to forget.

If people are grossed out by that, thy might confine themselves to a bubble if they knew what the microbial world was really like all around them.  There is E.coli - poop - just about everywhere, and much worse things too!  I guarantee that you have ingested more poop from eating out then you ever will from leaving the lid open and brushing your teeth.  There is poop in the soil, on produce, on unwashed hands, in the dust that we breathe, along with nastier bugs like clostridium botulinum (botulism) and clostridium tetani (tetanus), and other nasty buggers. 1/3 of the population has staff in their nose and another fraction of those actually carry MRSA around in their noses!  We are literally covered with little nasty buggies all over us.  I can guarantee you that your cell phone is way more nasty than your toothbrush - I've personally done swab tests and cell phones and carpet were by far the most nasty surfaces at UVU.  Is your skin crawling yet?   

Having said all of that, I'll be honest, I closed the lid before flushing after having our conversation.  Now look what you have gone and done to me!  There goes my irrational mind making me do silly things.  

[nuclearfuels]

On 11/15/2018 at 11:17 PM, MustardSeed said:

In my large ward, testimonies are shared mostly only by men.  Sunday school is male dominated in terms of participation.  I don’t think that’s typical.  My ward is, well, challenging for me at times. I used to participate to do my part but it doesn’t feel genuine and I’m sick of the sound of my ow voice.

Have you ever noticed that often times, women especially in a mixed sex crowd will state the following preface after being called upon:  “I just wanted to say...” etc.   

I hear that as an apologetic way of introducing thoughts.?

I rarely hear men say that.  They do, but not nearly as often as the women. 

Pet peeve, now passed into the internetic universe.  Thanks, I feel much better.   Edit to say, I don’t think the men are to blame.  Ladies of my ward, step it up!!

I was once told it is "semi-manipulative to bring candy" to my primary class of children with clinical psychological needs (not related to candy).

Since this was shared by a psychologist who was also male, I gave it all the consideration it deserved.