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Posted
18 minutes ago, cinepro said:

7. "Pop Quiz" - Showed the commonly used picture of Joseph and Oliver "translating."  Class members easily noticed the numerous inaccuracies. 

This is encouraging :)

What an awesome lesson, cinepro!  I’d have loved to be there.  I think many members are starved for something different like this lesson.

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Sad to see the reign of the kings end with John Taylor - or did it?  Maybe at any given time the council of fifty is replenished with all those who receive the second anointing?  

 

Posted
1 hour ago, cinepro said:

13. Far West Temple Site - Prophecy about Apostles leaving on mission in 1839.

Great post, that would have been an excellent class.  I don't know how you crammed so many topics into the short time frame, but good on you!  

Can you tell more about this prophecy at Far West, I'm not sure I'm familiar with it.  Thanks

Posted
21 minutes ago, hope_for_things said:

Great post, that would have been an excellent class.  I don't know how you crammed so many topics into the short time frame, but good on you!  

Can you tell more about this prophecy at Far West, I'm not sure I'm familiar with it.  Thanks

http://www.moroni10.com/mormon_history/lds-apostles-fufill-prophecy.html

 

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"The Twelve Apostles were called by revelation to go to Far West, Caldwell county, to lay the foundation of the corner stone of the Temple. When that revelation was given this Church was in peace in Missouri. It is the only revelation that has ever been given since the organization of the Church, that I know anything about, that had day and date given with it. The Lord called the Twelve Apostles, while in this state of prosperity, on the 26th day of April, 1838, to go to Far West to lay the corner stone of the Temple; and from there to take their departure to England to preach the Gospel. Previous to the arrival of that period the whole Church was driven out of the State of Missouri, and it was as much as a man's life was worth to be found in the State if it was known that he was a Latter-day Saint; and especially was this the case with the Twelve. When the time came for the corner stone of the Temple to be laid, as directed in the revelation, the Church was in Illinois, having been expelled from Missouri by an edict from the Governor. Joseph and Hyrum Smith and Parley P. Pratt were in chains in Missouri for the testimony of Jesus." - Wilford Woodruff

 

Posted
2 hours ago, cinepro said:

Honestly, this one is pretty new to me.  I don't recall reading about it before, and I'm curious if there are contemporaneous records that could corroborate those later recollections.  Do you know if there is any contemporary evidence to support that Brigham and other apostles would have gone back into Missouri during that time of conflict to dedicate the Far West temple site?  I'm not saying it didn't happen, but this linked website seems to only reference later recollections.  

Posted
4 hours ago, cinepro said:

A friend of mine teaches Gospel Doctrine in our ward,  but asked me to substitute last Sunday (12/31).  In counsel with the Sunday School President, we decided that since there wasn't any actual lesson in the manual for that week, that I should end our year-long study of "Church History" with a lesson that fills in some of the gaps, focusing on the Gospel Topics Essays. 

At the beginning of the lesson, I explained to the class that I was a substitute, there was no manual so I can't be accused of going "off manual", and I already had a calling in Scouts so I can't be punished. 

And away we went.   I went for a mix of interesting trivia and "meat" from the Gospel Topics Essays.  I used PowerPoint slides to present visual aids.

"Gospel Doctrine - Lesson 47"

1. (Attention-Getter - Madam Pattirini) - Showed the picture and asked if anyone knew who it was.  Lots of raised eyebrows when her real identity was revealed.

2. Gospel Topics Essays overview.

3. First Vision - Different Accounts.  Excerpt from the 1832 account discussed.

4. Book of Mormon - Story of Alvin being "the right one", but dying.  Joseph Smith sr. ad in local paper denying digging up Alvin's body.

5. Book of Mormon scribes.  What happened to the original manuscript?

6. Book of Mormon translation method.  Brought a hat and rock from my front yard as visual aids.

7. "Pop Quiz" - Showed the commonly used picture of Joseph and Oliver "translating."  Class members easily noticed the numerous inaccuracies. 

8. Then showed the picture of President Nelson touring the Harmony recreation of Joseph's cabin, including the hat on the table.

9. Trivia: Code names used in the D&C until 1981.

10. Trivia: Different names of the Church over time.

11. The Story of Vienna Jacques.

12. "The Plat of Zion"

13. Far West Temple Site - Prophecy about Apostles leaving on mission in 1839.

14. "Plural Marriage in the Church" essay.  One older class member talked about how when they were growing up in the Church, "no one knew Joseph Smith practiced polygamy."  One orthodox member offered her opinion that "it just doesn't matter at all to my salvation."  Talked about Hyrum taking section 132 to Emma.  Mentioned Joseph Smith being sealed to women with living LDS husbands (a few eyebrows went up).

15. (Planned to talk about the Council of 50, but ran out of time)

16. Ended with the story of the Steamship Saluda.

17. (Didn't have time to talk about the Book of Moses and the Book of Abraham).

 

The power point I used is attached.   I had a lot of very positive feedback after the lesson!  Lots of people saying "wow"; several asked for a copy of my notes so they could read the parts I skipped. 

It was definitely a fun way to end the year.  I'll be the first to admit it would be impossible and inappropriate to teach like that every week, but once every four years sounds about right.

 

Cinepro "Lesson 47" Powerpoint

 

 

 

I hope your lesson concluded with you bearing a most genuine, fervent and inspiring testimony of the spiritual witness you have received that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the restored Church of Christ and the one true and living Church on the face of the earth, that the Doctrine & Covenants is a heaven-inspired volume of modern scripture that you love and strive to obey, and that the Church is led today by true prophets, seers and revelators who act in their sacred callings by virtue of authentic priesthood power and authority they have received from God? I also hope that all throughout your lesson you were inspired by the Spirit to present the information you gathered in a manner deliberately designed to help confirm and build the.class member’s testimonies of the Church. Please tell me that these things are so? But if not, why not?

Posted (edited)

HFT,

Iirc, it is in Turley's mission journal.  He is one of my greats so it is on my shelf.  If I remember later, I will check...assuming it is where I remember it and someone hasn't borrowed it.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Bobbieaware said:

I hope your lesson concluded with you bearing a most genuine, fervent and inspiring testimony of the spiritual witness you have received that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the restored Church of Christ and the one true and living Church on the face of the earth, that the Doctrine & Covenants is a heaven-inspired volume of modern scripture that you love and strive to obey, and that the Church is led today by true prophets, seers and revelators who act in their sacred callings by virtue of authentic priesthood power and authority they have received from God? I also hope that all throughout your lesson you were inspired by the Spirit to present the information you gathered in a manner deliberately designed to help confirm and build the.class member’s testimonies of the Church. Please tell me that these things are so? But if not, why not?

Naw, I hope he concluded his lesson with a mic drop.  :lol:

Posted
2 minutes ago, Calm said:

Iirc, it is in Turley's mission journal.  He is one of my greats so it is on my shelf.  If I remember later, I will check...assuming it is where I remember it and someone hasn't borrowed it.

Thanks Calm, sounds interesting, I'll check back in case you post a follow up.  

Posted
1 minute ago, hope_for_things said:

Naw, I hope he concluded his lesson with a mic drop.  :lol:

... followed by the dramatic handing in of a resignation?

Posted
14 minutes ago, pogi said:

Anyone who includes a picture of Madam Pattirini as part of their Gospel Doctrine lesson gets some serious street cred' in my book! 

Seriously though, the fact that you could give this lesson and receive positive feedback without church discipline shows that we have come a LONG way in the last few years. 

Agreed, it also shows oriented the members had become to worship at the altar of conformance to correlation.  Here's hoping for more uncorrelated and inspired teaching in the future!  

Posted (edited)
13 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said:

Do all LDS talks, classes, etc, have to end with a testimony? It is a uniquely LDS phenomenon for sure -- constantly saying that you know something is true. While such declarations have their time and place, sometimes it is also ok to let the truth speak for itself, surely.

Sometimes i do think that we 'bear our testimonies' too often where lessons are concerned.  I think we should learn to be more in tune with the spirit on when and where to bear them so that they mean more to the listener.  Kids especially just take for granted that every lesson ends that way and i swear that when some of them sense that's what's happening their ears turn off and they go into 'countdown until class is over' mode.

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said:

Do all LDS talks, classes, etc, have to end with a testimony? It is a uniquely LDS phenomenon for sure -- constantly saying that you know something is true. While such declarations have their time and place, sometimes it is also ok to let the truth speak for itself, surely.

I'm not even sure early church leaders knew what bearing a testimony was, but over the years this strong cultural tradition has developed with church leaders encouraging and modeling this behavior and church manuals on effective teaching reinforcing the idea.  It's certainly not required by any means, but it is encouraged and it seems to be a tradition of sorts in the current church.  

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Posted (edited)
20 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said:

Do all LDS talks, classes, etc, have to end with a testimony? It is a uniquely LDS phenomenon for sure -- constantly saying that you know something is true. While such declarations have their time and place, sometimes it is also ok to let the truth speak for itself, surely.

I agree, "I know" statements are not always necessary and have become so commonplace, and even expected, that they have lost their intended affect. 

The point of testimony is to share how the message resonates or has impacted you personally in your life.  The message becomes more personal and real, when the teacher can share how the principles shared in the lesson have spiritually impacted his/her personal life.  It is a more powerful and resonating way to teach when we get personal.  Unfortunately, "I know" statements often feel impersonal and empty.   It doesn't "feel" like a testimony to me...except when it does!  

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Posted
29 minutes ago, Bobbieaware said:

I hope your lesson concluded with you bearing a most genuine, fervent and inspiring testimony of the spiritual witness you have received that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints is the restored Church of Christ and the one true and living Church on the face of the earth, that the Doctrine & Covenants is a heaven-inspired volume of modern scripture that you love and strive to obey, and that the Church is led today by true prophets, seers and revelators who act in their sacred callings by virtue of authentic priesthood power and authority they have received from God? I also hope that all throughout your lesson you were inspired by the Spirit to present the information you gathered in a manner deliberately designed to help confirm and build the.class member’s testimonies of the Church. Please tell me that these things are so? But if not, why not?

This is a great idea. In fact we should automatically question anyone's sincerity who does not present a lesson accompanied by each and everyone of these conditions. No one should be allowed to teach without being able to meet this standard.

Posted
23 minutes ago, hope_for_things said:

Thanks Calm, sounds interesting, I'll check back in case you post a follow up.  

I checked the book while passing to the basement.  Unfortunately it is not his journal, but the Turley Family Book...so it has a summary of his journal and quotes where he states he was with the apostles (it is very brief so I can understand why it is not used), but not the journal itself so I can doublecheck on when that part was written.  I have a copy of the Journal I had made 40 years ago (it was in the Special Collections st BYU), but I just got all that put away very unsystematically because I am assuming all my collected genealogy stuff from 25 years or more back (the birth of my daughter derailed all my genealogy efforts and I have never been able to get back into them yet) is or will be online (a family member has a project putting all his papers up, but so far just a placeholder).  I doubt even my obsession for doublechecking will drive me to dig it out.

Posted
6 minutes ago, pogi said:

The point of testimony is to share how the message resonates or has impacted you personally in your life.  The message becomes more personal and real, when the teacher can share how the principles shared in the lesson have spiritually impacted hid/her personal life.  It is a more powerful and resonating way to teach when we get personal.  Unfortunately, "I know" statements often feel impersonal and empty.   It doesn't "feel" like a testimony to me...except when it does!  

Years ago friends took me to a testimony meeting. The "I know" statements were so repetitive. Now, I don't have anything inherently against repeating things (I love the Rosary and novenas and the Stations of the Cross, etc), but something about it seemed a little off. Probably because I'm not LDS. But there was a person or two who did talk about personal spiritual experiences, problems, growth, and insights and I found that much more interesting and edifying and real.

Posted
18 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said:

Do all LDS talks, classes, etc, have to end with a testimony? It is a uniquely LDS phenomenon for sure -- constantly saying that you know something is true. While such declarations have their time and place, sometimes it is also ok to let the truth speak for itself, surely.

I’ve made it a point in my three years of teaching GD to never end my lesson with a “testimony.” I “bear my testimony” the entire time I’m giving the lesson so I don’t really find it necessary. Plus I’m kind of rebellious like that anyway. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Calm said:

I checked the book while passing to the basement.  Unfortunately it is not his journal, but the Turley Family Book...so it has a summary of his journal and quotes where he states he was with the apostles (it is very brief so I can understand why it is not used), but not the journal itself so I can doublecheck on when that part was written.  I have a copy of the Journal I had made 40 years ago (it was in the Special Collections st BYU), but I just got all that put away very unsystematically because I am assuming all my collected genealogy stuff from 25 years or more back (the birth of my daughter derailed all my genealogy efforts and I have never been able to get back into them yet) is or will be online (a family member has a project putting all his papers up, but so far just a placeholder).  I doubt even my obsession for doublechecking will drive me to dig it out.

That's ok, I don't blame you at all, lots of work to find a little quote. 

Do you recall if those journal accounts and quotes were contemporaneous during this time period or later recollections?  

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