waveslider Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 3 hours ago, Tacenda said: You're spot on. Some do better out of Mormonism. But I wouldn't know. I don't think he was spot on. I am not condescending and stereotypical in my attitude. I think Flexible didn't notice the part where I said this: 9 hours ago, waveslider said: while just patiently and lovingly waiting
cdowis Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 7 hours ago, Flexible said: Amen. It amazes me how such a small, insignificant and totally irrelevant segment of society can view themselves as being so exalted and chosen. Goodness, how does the world survive without " knowing what we know". I was talking about myself, and not church members in general, specifically regarding my work in apologetics. I do indeed know what I know, and I'm considered rather arrogant by those in my own ward. Good heavens, hope there are not more like me in the church. If so, I will be happy to humble them.
flameburns623 Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 14 hours ago, Rivers said: What is the hardest part ? Sacrament meeting? Tithing? Word of Wisdom? Chastity? Garments? Pot lucks? Baldness. 1
UtahTexan Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 2 hours ago, flameburns623 said: Baldness. Then I am a problem for you....sigh..... Just remember: God only made a few people with perfect heads......on the rest, He put hair 1
flameburns623 Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 28 minutes ago, CountryBoy said: Then I am a problem for you....sigh..... Just remember: God only made a few people with perfect heads......on the rest, He put hair I. Am. Bald. (LOL) 3
UtahTexan Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 1 minute ago, flameburns623 said: I. Am. Bald. (LOL) We can be the Star Trek Crew.....to Baldly go where no Man has gone before! 3
RevTestament Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, CountryBoy said: We can be the Star Trek Crew.....to Baldly go where no Man has gone before! That settles it. I will have to be Spock. Live long and prosper! 2
rpn Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 The hardest part is hearing the pain of someone who describes what they think they are expected to be/do/want because they are Mormons, as a huge burden; and/or who thinks they cannot do/be what God wants them to be and therefore have little hope and less desire. Next is simply doing each of the little things that can make it easier to hear God, to know what He wants of us, and to get over and around obstacles. 4
Rivers Posted August 27, 2016 Author Posted August 27, 2016 4 hours ago, flameburns623 said: Baldness. How's baldness a Mormon problem? The Book of Mormon conversely tells of a remedy for this condition in ressurection.
thesometimesaint Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 20 hours ago, Rivers said: What is the hardest part ? Sacrament meeting? Tithing? Word of Wisdom? Chastity? Garments? Pot lucks? The rude and crude comments about us by others. It is one thing to disagree with our religion it is quite another to be a jerk about it.
Tacenda Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 (edited) 18 hours ago, waveslider said: I don't think he was spot on. I am not condescending and stereotypical in my attitude. I think Flexible didn't notice the part where I said this: Maybe they're patiently and waiting for their loved one to come around also to see the light. You know there are many that think we're in a cult. Who's right I don't know. Edited August 28, 2016 by Tacenda
Jeanne Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 17 hours ago, Flexible said: I have 3 grown daughters who have chosen to leave Mormonism. Two were endowed and married in the temple. All raised in a faithful Mormon family. The hardest thing for me was seeing them make that decision, with their husbands. The next hardest thing is dealing with the condescending, stereotypical attitudes like your statement about "being there to help pick up the pieces". These women and their husbands are much happier now than when they were living in Mormonism. And very successful in their professions and life. And with close family relationships. They are more happy than most church members I know. I know there is much about Mormonism that brings happiness. But if you really think that the only happy, well adjusted and successful people in the world are Mormons, you just have to get out more. The only pieces I've had to pick up in people's lives are in the many sad cases I've had to deal with in church leadership callings Flexible, thank you for your honesty, though it is difficult for you..you are still a good father that acknowledges/accepts family as they are. Do you know how rare that is?
The Nehor Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 9 minutes ago, Jeanne said: Green jello with carrots. You stole mine. Why do we all keep pretending anyone likes this stuff? Why do we keep making it? Why do people eat it and perpetuate the cycle? RISE UP! REVOLUTION!
Jeanne Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 3 minutes ago, The Nehor said: You stole mine. Why do we all keep pretending anyone likes this stuff? Why do we keep making it? Why do people eat it and perpetuate the cycle? RISE UP! REVOLUTION! Every funeral, ward banquet and/or whatever...there is this huge glass bowl of this kind of thing!! The only time it seemed to get ate is when there was whipped cream..I dunno..can't figure where that came from. Now if it was just jello cake..hey..I am your lady! Funny thing though...I love those darn funeral potatoes
Tacenda Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 11 minutes ago, The Nehor said: You stole mine. Why do we all keep pretending anyone likes this stuff? Why do we keep making it? Why do people eat it and perpetuate the cycle? RISE UP! REVOLUTION! I use to make green jello and shredded apples, am I bad?
Guest Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 21 hours ago, Rivers said: What is the hardest part ? Sacrament meeting? Tithing? Word of Wisdom? Chastity? Garments? Pot lucks? Waking up on Sunday morning when your body is telling you to sleep a little longer.
waveslider Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 38 minutes ago, Tacenda said: Maybe their patiently and waiting for their loved one to come around also to see the light. You know there are many that think we're in a cult. Who's right I don't know. It doesn't matter if people think it is a cult, that doesn't make it one. When God told me that this church is indeed set up and run by Christ himself, and that there is no other church that is set up and run by Him, it let me know personally that it isn't a cult. Hence why I wait patiently and lovingly for those who are close to me but have drifted further from Christ and Heavenly Father, to come back around and see the light. I hope and pray that it is sooner rather than later because eventually, even if all seems to be going great for them now, they will either get humbled or they will humble themselves. This fact is why the scriptures say: "50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of, 51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth." Matthew 24:50-51 I'm not coming from a condescending and stereotypical attitude, but one of love. I know that we all have our own free agency to choose what we will, yet we are not free to choose a different outcome from the consequences of those choices. I'm just lovingly waiting and letting them know that they are accepted back no matter how far away they drift, not forcing anything upon them (heck that was Satan's plan). 2
Jeanne Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 35 minutes ago, Tacenda said: I use to make green jello and shredded apples, am I bad? Oh....that sounds so much better...!! 1
JLHPROF Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Jeanne said: Green jello with carrots. And whipped cream on apple/celery salad... And any other jello "salad" abominations, especially the ones served on the same plate as gravy.
Jeanne Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 2 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: And whipped cream on apple/celery salad... And any other jello "salad" abominations, especially the ones served on the same plate as gravy. Never heard of that...wow...talk about sweet and sour...
Okrahomer Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Tacenda said: I use to make green jello and shredded apples, am I bad? You might enjoy this history of Jello salad in the U.S. I'm intrigued by one of the blogs cited in the article "Gallery of Regrettable Foods"--ha! And then there's this terrific closing line: "In its heyday, Jell-O salad was ubiquitous across the United States. Today it is, in the words of Perfection Salad author Laura Shapiro, "a once-loved dish safely congealed in the decorative mold of history." 1
Tacenda Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Not to put a damper on our jello posts, but I need to say what was hard for me as a believing Mormon. It was that I separated myself from those who were inactive or weren't LDS. Not in a active, or plain way. Just felt like I was different, not even in a better way, just different. That made me go into myself and not open up with them as much. It was always very platonic or artificial relationships. Except for my family members. I just always felt that I was different, and they wouldn't like me, I was odd or something. This is hard to explain, but it was hard for me to go outside my bubble, my safe place. It might be because I did go through a rebellious stage when a late teen and young adult where I hung with kids that actually scared me out of hanging with them, things they were doing and thus my return to activity. Maybe I was afraid of going to that unhappy, or scary way of life. But now that I'm not a believer like before, I'm seeing that those people aren't as scary as I once thought. I know I'm butchering this post. But kind of think God made this happen so I'd wake up or grow up. I know other LDS that are true believing are not like I was, I am just a weirdo. 1
Five Solas Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 Most difficult thing for me back in the day was when I "graduated" from the "Young Single Adult" to the "Single Adult" program. I've heard hell described by some LDS as eternal life without the possibility of progression. I don't know if that would be the consensus view, but to me the SA program felt like early start. ;0) --Erik 1
Jeanne Posted August 27, 2016 Posted August 27, 2016 1 hour ago, Tacenda said: Not to put a damper on our jello posts, but I need to say what was hard for me as a believing Mormon. It was that I separated myself from those who were inactive or weren't LDS. Not in a active, or plain way. Just felt like I was different, not even in a better way, just different. That made me go into myself and not open up with them as much. It was always very platonic or artificial relationships. Except for my family members. I just always felt that I was different, and they wouldn't like me, I was odd or something. This is hard to explain, but it was hard for me to go outside my bubble, my safe place. It might be because I did go through a rebellious stage when a late teen and young adult where I hung with kids that actually scared me out of hanging with them, things they were doing and thus my return to activity. Maybe I was afraid of going to that unhappy, or scary way of life. But now that I'm not a believer like before, I'm seeing that those people aren't as scary as I once thought. I know I'm butchering this post. But kind of think God made this happen so I'd wake up or grow up. I know other LDS that are true believing are not like I was, I am just a weirdo. I think I understand what you mean. You're in the nice bubble where you feel safe. You know who you are, what is expected of you..and most people around you feel the same way you do..to step out of that bubble is scary. So you don't give others a chance..this was me in many ways. I stayed in my bubble for a long time...but I am different than you in the that I really did look down on people..it was a way for me to feel good about myself. So kudos for you and your humility. I am most upset with myself now that I missed out on making some very good friends...outside that bubble..there would have been nothing wrong with that. I did have a nice catholic girl as a friend for awhile as she rode the bus with me...but guess what? My father would not let me have her for a friend...it wasn't just a bubble..it was a way of life!! 1
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