Duncan Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Let's say your great grandpa or Aunt or something was excommunicated from the Church and then later died but can you have them re-baptized or have their blessings restored? is there a form to fill out or something? Obviously we don't determine their worthiness but if there is something we can do what would that be? 1
ksfisher Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 11 minutes ago, Duncan said: Let's say your great grandpa or Aunt or something was excommunicated from the Church and then later died but can you have them re-baptized or have their blessings restored? is there a form to fill out or something? Obviously we don't determine their worthiness but if there is something we can do what would that be? Sounds like a good question for your bishop, who would probably refer it to the stake president.
JAHS Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 "First Presidency approval is required to perform temple ordinances for deceased persons who, at the time of their death, were excommunicated or had their names removed from Church membership records. A letter should be written to the Office of the First Presidency. No form is required." (CHI) 3
Scott Lloyd Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 It's fairly well-known that the First Presidency posthumously reinstated the membership of Mountain Meadows killer John D. Lee, this at the behest of his descendants. As I understand it, this was in the spirit of leaving the final judgment up to God. 3
rongo Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 The First Presidency can authorize baptism for the dead for deceased excommunicated relatives. As mentioned above, this is done via letter from the descendant, and not the priesthood leaders (which is neat, I think). There is also an ordinance called restoration of blessings by proxy, also authorized by the First Presidency. If approved, the First Presidency directs the Salt Lake temple presidency to carry out the ordinance on behalf of the dead ancestor, and notify the descendant. I know this because I had a member in a past ward who asked about her mother, who had been rebaptized but died before receiving the ordinance of restoration of blessings. I learned some things I didn't know . . . 2
Duncan Posted April 6, 2016 Author Posted April 6, 2016 27 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: It's fairly well-known that the First Presidency posthumously reinstated the membership of Mountain Meadows killer John D. Lee, this at the behest of his descendants. As I understand it, this was in the spirit of leaving the final judgment up to God. I know they did Elder John W. Taylor of the Twelve as well like 50 years after his death. I can't imagine this would be a common thing but who knows maybe it is?! 1
Jeanne Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 31 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: It's fairly well-known that the First Presidency posthumously reinstated the membership of Mountain Meadows killer John D. Lee, this at the behest of his descendants. As I understand it, this was in the spirit of leaving the final judgment up to God. Now...I like this, Leaving it up to God.
Jim Stiles Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 22 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: It's fairly well-known that the First Presidency posthumously reinstated the membership of Mountain Meadows killer John D. Lee, this at the behest of his descendants. As I understand it, this was in the spirit of leaving the final judgment up to God. I thought that the REAL Mountain Meadows killer had a university named after him. Poster removed.
Calm Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 You are wrong on that. Probably should catch up on your history.
Damien the Leper Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, Jim Stiles said: I thought that the REAL Mountain Meadows killer had a university named after him. No, he did not.
The Nehor Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 33 minutes ago, Jim Stiles said: I thought that the REAL Mountain Meadows killer had a university named after him. Does 'real' mean something special when in all caps? 1
USU78 Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 1 hour ago, Jim Stiles said: I thought that the REAL Mountain Meadows killer had a university named after him. Buck Buchanan University? 2
Scott Lloyd Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jim Stiles said: I thought that the REAL Mountain Meadows killer had a university named after him. Ignorant cheap shot. And outright falsehood Brigham Young was not culpable in the massacre and in fact gave a directive that would have prevented it had it been received in time and heeded. Edited April 7, 2016 by Scott Lloyd 2
Guest Posted April 7, 2016 Posted April 7, 2016 5 hours ago, Duncan said: Let's say your great grandpa or Aunt or something was excommunicated from the Church and then later died but can you have them re-baptized or have their blessings restored? is there a form to fill out or something? Obviously we don't determine their worthiness but if there is something we can do what would that be? Two things...we are taught that whatever spirit we have will rise into the Spirit World. So it my be unlikely that the would accept the gospel. Secondly, "Salvation for the Dead", is not a second chance, but "a" chance.
Robert F. Smith Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 On 4/7/2016 at 7:51 PM, Pa Pa said: Two things...we are taught that whatever spirit we have will rise into the Spirit World. So it my be unlikely that the would accept the gospel. Secondly, "Salvation for the Dead", is not a second chance, but "a" chance. Except for Satan and his ilk, it seems to me likely that all will accept the work we do for those who are on the other side, no matter whether their sins are as scarlet. 1
Guest Posted April 8, 2016 Posted April 8, 2016 9 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: Except for Satan and his ilk, it seems to me likely that all will accept the work we do for those who are on the other side, no matter whether their sins are as scarlet. I hope so, but given the nature of so and their rebellion...I worry that this shall not be.
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