Steve Noel Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Hi all, I just signed up and thought I would share a little about myself. I am 40 years old (nearly 41), married, and the father of 3 wonderful girls (Calee - 9, Addisyn - 6, Brooklyn - 3). I am an evangelical Christian in Michigan. I am on my final course to finish a Bachelor Degree in Religion / Christian Worldview at Luther Rice College & Seminary. Lord willing, I will begin working on an MA in Apologetics in the Fall. I look forward to engaging in civil discussions with the folks here. Thanks for allowing non-Mormons to contribute to this forum.
bluebell Posted March 20, 2016 Posted March 20, 2016 Welcome! We have quite a few nonMormons here that are well respected.
Steve Noel Posted March 20, 2016 Author Posted March 20, 2016 28 minutes ago, bluebell said: Welcome! We have quite a few nonMormons here that are well respected. Thanks.
Steve Noel Posted March 20, 2016 Author Posted March 20, 2016 9 minutes ago, CountryBoy said: Welcome from a former non-Mormon! Lol, thanks.
Popular Post UtahTexan Posted March 20, 2016 Popular Post Posted March 20, 2016 15 hours ago, Steve Noel said: Lol, thanks. I should have been more forthcoming....I am not just a former non-Mormon...I was an avid anti...debating Mormons at every turn.....I was Saul persecuting the Christians......then, one day, on my way to Damascus....... 7
Jeanne Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 Welcome..you sound so interesting! I am a resigned former member of the church..and if they let me get on here..you will be more than welcomed here!!
Tacenda Posted March 21, 2016 Posted March 21, 2016 Welcome, I'm an active LDS that has issues with some church history. How did you find us? If you don't mind me asking. They have some amazing discussion on here discussing our differences with the Evangelical Christians. But you may get wore out. In fact they seem to wash and repeat over and over but they may need some new perspective.
Stargazer Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 On 3/20/2016 at 6:07 PM, Steve Noel said: Hi all, I just signed up and thought I would share a little about myself. I am 40 years old (nearly 41), married, and the father of 3 wonderful girls (Calee - 9, Addisyn - 6, Brooklyn - 3). I am an evangelical Christian in Michigan. I am on my final course to finish a Bachelor Degree in Religion / Christian Worldview at Luther Rice College & Seminary. Lord willing, I will begin working on an MA in Apologetics in the Fall. I look forward to engaging in civil discussions with the folks here. Thanks for allowing non-Mormons to contribute to this forum. Indeed, welcome! The more perspectives the better -- I just hope you're not one of those who come on board to wag their fingers at them Mormonites about how they're going to Hell in a Handbasket, and then trot out twenty tired, worn-out, and long-discredited arguments to support their finger-wagging. You don't sound like one of those, so that's good. I hadn't been aware that one could get a degree in Apologetics! Sounds interesting! By the way, I'm been active LDS since converting in 1966, and been tossing words around in this forum for the past eight or ten years, I forget how long exactly. 3
Stargazer Posted March 22, 2016 Posted March 22, 2016 3 hours ago, Calm said: Your profile says 2007 Yeah, I looked it up, later. I am coming up on ten years, next year!
Steve Noel Posted March 23, 2016 Author Posted March 23, 2016 17 hours ago, Stargazer said: Indeed, welcome! The more perspectives the better -- I just hope you're not one of those who come on board to wag their fingers at them Mormonites about how they're going to Hell in a Handbasket, and then trot out twenty tired, worn-out, and long-discredited arguments to support their finger-wagging. You don't sound like one of those, so that's good. I hadn't been aware that one could get a degree in Apologetics! Sounds interesting! By the way, I'm been active LDS since converting in 1966, and been tossing words around in this forum for the past eight or ten years, I forget how long exactly. Thanks. I did not join this discussion group to preach at anyone. It is possible that I am not aware of arguments that have been legitimately discredited. If I engage in these types of arguments I ask you all to be patient with me. I may just need to be educated on your responses. You will not find me being intentionally offensive, rude, arrogant, condescending, etc. I think that if you cannot discuss issues of eternal truth in a Christian spirit, then you shouldn't be discussing them at all. 1
Stargazer Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 43 minutes ago, Steve Noel said: Thanks. I did not join this discussion group to preach at anyone. It is possible that I am not aware of arguments that have been legitimately discredited. If I engage in these types of arguments I ask you all to be patient with me. I may just need to be educated on your responses. You will not find me being intentionally offensive, rude, arrogant, condescending, etc. I think that if you cannot discuss issues of eternal truth in a Christian spirit, then you shouldn't be discussing them at all. Amen!
sunstoned Posted March 23, 2016 Posted March 23, 2016 (edited) Welcome Steve and congratulations on finishing your degree. The one thing nice about education is that no one can take it away from you. Edited March 23, 2016 by sunstoned
Steve Noel Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 On 3/23/2016 at 0:00 AM, sunstoned said: Welcome Steve and congratulations on finishing your degree. The one thing nice about education is that no one can take it away from you. Thanks. It has been a long road as I work full-time and can only be a part-time student.
Storm Rider Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 Welcome, Steve. I hope you enjoy yourself here. We appreciate sincere questions and those who stand firm on the truths they know. Today being Easter is a wonderful day for new beginnings and new life. We as a people rejoice in Christ, preach Christ and his crucifixion and resurrection. The Board has had a lot of Evangelical participants in the past. Many of us have served missions where we have met many more Evangelicals. Not too many of us are interested in debate about scriptures or doctrines. We have learned that a scripture bash is a good way to lose the Spirit and result in bad feelings. If you have questions, please ask. I am not promising that we can answer to your satisfaction, but we will do our best. Thank you for your interest and kindly sharing of information about you and your family. I have a granddaughter who is named Addyson, Addy for short. God's blessings upon each of you.
Steve Noel Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 37 minutes ago, Storm Rider said: Welcome, Steve. I hope you enjoy yourself here. We appreciate sincere questions and those who stand firm on the truths they know. Today being Easter is a wonderful day for new beginnings and new life. We as a people rejoice in Christ, preach Christ and his crucifixion and resurrection. The Board has had a lot of Evangelical participants in the past. Many of us have served missions where we have met many more Evangelicals. Not too many of us are interested in debate about scriptures or doctrines. We have learned that a scripture bash is a good way to lose the Spirit and result in bad feelings. If you have questions, please ask. I am not promising that we can answer to your satisfaction, but we will do our best. Thank you for your interest and kindly sharing of information about you and your family. I have a granddaughter who is named Addyson, Addy for short. God's blessings upon each of you. Thanks for the welcoming spirit of your post. I know how it feels to get into mud-slinging discussions about the Bible and doctrine. I have no interest in that. I am hoping to better understand modern Mormons and Mormonism through my interactions here.
Rain Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 On Wednesday, March 23, 2016 at 5:15 PM, Steve Noel said: Thanks. I did not join this discussion group to preach at anyone. It is possible that I am not aware of arguments that have been legitimately discredited. If I engage in these types of arguments I ask you all to be patient with me. I may just need to be educated on your responses. You will not find me being intentionally offensive, rude, arrogant, condescending, etc. I think that if you cannot discuss issues of eternal truth in a Christian spirit, then you shouldn't be discussing them at all. Is like this post if you had enough pays to enable that feature. I look forward to liking future posts when you have enough.
sunstoned Posted March 28, 2016 Posted March 28, 2016 3 hours ago, Steve Noel said: Thanks. It has been a long road as I work full-time and can only be a part-time student. I hear you. It took me six years to get a four year degree.
Steve Noel Posted March 28, 2016 Author Posted March 28, 2016 14 hours ago, Rain said: Is like this post if you had enough pays to enable that feature. I look forward to liking future posts when you have enough. Thank you. I've noticed that I haven't been able to like any posts yet either.
BookofMormonLuvr Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 Good to see that you are not a Calvinist.
Steve Noel Posted March 29, 2016 Author Posted March 29, 2016 34 minutes ago, BookofMormonLuvr said: Good to see that you are not a Calvinist. Lol. I am not a Calvinist, but I have often been edified by the ministry of Calvinists. I am surprised to see a Latter-day Saint familiar with Calvinism. I'm interested in your story.
boblloyd91 Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 13 hours ago, Steve Noel said: Lol. I am not a Calvinist, but I have often been edified by the ministry of Calvinists. I am surprised to see a Latter-day Saint familiar with Calvinism. I'm interested in your story. Hi Steve nice to have you! Actually a number of people here are fairly well versed in non LDS writings and theologies. I myself quite enjoy the writings of NT Wright and also enjoy reading Patristics and Eastern Orthodox related material. One thing you will find from almost every LDS poster here is an extremely strong aversion to Calvinism. I have several theories why this is but do not want to bore you. Suffice it to say that LDS theology is very Arminian in nature (at least in my opinion). 1
Steve Noel Posted March 29, 2016 Author Posted March 29, 2016 5 hours ago, boblloyd91 said: Hi Steve nice to have you! Actually a number of people here are fairly well versed in non LDS writings and theologies. I myself quite enjoy the writings of NT Wright and also enjoy reading Patristics and Eastern Orthodox related material. One thing you will find from almost every LDS poster here is an extremely strong aversion to Calvinism. I have several theories why this is but do not want to bore you. Suffice it to say that LDS theology is very Arminian in nature (at least in my opinion). I am glad to hear that many of you read non LDS writings and theologies. I have spent a lot of time studying Calvinism/Arminianism. Feel free to share your thoughts on why the LDS folks here are strongly opposed to Calvinism.
BookofMormonLuvr Posted March 29, 2016 Posted March 29, 2016 19 hours ago, Steve Noel said: Lol. I am not a Calvinist, but I have often been edified by the ministry of Calvinists. I am surprised to see a Latter-day Saint familiar with Calvinism. I'm interested in your story. I have a low opinion of Calvinist doctrine, I believe it has done serious damage to Protestant theology- and believe Calvin should not have a place of honor among the Reformers. I did however enjoy Mark Driscoll when he ran Mars Hill in Seattle, he had some good sermons. I am not your typical Latter Day Saint- and am not a member of the organization HQ's in SLC anymore. Though I fellowship mostly with the RLDS Restoration Branches Movement, my personal beliefs, theology, and scriptural interpretations don't really fit any category except "Unorthodox". I believe the Hebrew Roots Movement is inspired by the Spirit- so my wife and I keep the Appointed Times, rest on Saturday, and refrain from non-food (pork, shellfish, scavenger birds, etc...) I have an undeniable testimony of the truth, theologically and historically, of the Book of Mormon which no man can steal. I also believe Taoism in it's most basic, primitive form is good life philosophy and perhaps the remnants of teachings of ancient far east servants of God. So I read and quote from the "Tao Te Ching" sometimes.
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