savedwheat Posted January 30, 2016 Author Posted January 30, 2016 2 hours ago, JLHPROF said: By their fruits ye shall know them... Content removed. This poster has been permanently restricted from posting.
Anakin7 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 All those accusations have been responded to adinfinentum. You may not last long. In His Eternal Debt/Grace Anakin7
JLHPROF Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, savedwheat said: Lets check on some fruits of Mormons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU721E0IJRI No crosses on Mormon buildings only Satanic pentagrams. McConkie said if it was not for Joseph Smith there would be no salvation....so people since Christ never got saved because according to Mormons there was no Church for 18 centuries. Do we really want Mormons in a position of power with this mentality? Joseph Smith became a Master Mason of the occult in 1842. Mormons practiced slit throats for revealing anything that happens in their temples. Mormons like to use the Masonic all seeing eye on their buildings. It's like they are trying to hit you over the head they are Satanic. Mormons don't use wine to represent the blood of Jesus, but have changed it to water. Without the shedding of blood their is no forgiveness. All cults try to water down this. We overcome Satan by the blood of the lamb. The salvation of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. They like to use Christian terminology but change the meaning of everything as you would expect Mormons are not monotheistic but polytheism. Lorenzo said as man is God once was man may become. Satan said you can become like God by eating the forbidden fruit. Mormons think they are gods. It's the same lie today. But eternal judgment is waiting Mormons. Gates of Hell can't come against the Church so Mormons are wrong. There wouldn't be so many contradictions if Joseph Smith was a prophet. Mormons teach Jesus was born in Jerusalem but the Bible says Bethlehem "house of bread". BofM 600 BC to 400 AD. How can there be cows in the Americas and silk? Couldn't find any coins. Lie, lie, lies. Darkness would cover the earth for 3 days when Jesus died on the cross. The Bible says 3 hours. BofM says Enoch lived 400 years. Bible says 365 years. Joseph Smith didn't know the Bible very well. God the Father has body of flesh and bone? Bible says God is spirit. Joseph Smith polygamy was an everlasting covenant otherwise you are damned. Bible says you must be a husband of one wife if you get married. Well, if that's not enough to get you permanently banned, I don't know what more it would take. Mocking, name calling, temple content, no references, no discussion, proselyting, and calling Mormons satanic. Nice knowing you. 2
savedwheat Posted January 30, 2016 Author Posted January 30, 2016 Just now, JLHPROF said: Well, if that's not enough to get you permanently banned, I don't know what more it would take. Mocking, name calling, temple content, no references, no discussion, proselyting, and calling Mormons satanic. Nice knowing you. So much sinning bearing false witness. I just listed your sins. You should repent.
JLHPROF Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, savedwheat said: So much sinning bearing false witness. I just listed your sins. You should repent. Why? Repentance is a work. I just need to believe in Christ. 3
JAHS Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) 37 minutes ago, savedwheat said: Lets check on some fruits of Mormons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU721E0IJRI No crosses on Mormon buildings only Satanic pentagrams. They are not satanic just decoration McConkie said if it was not for Joseph Smith there would be no salvation....so people since Christ never got saved because according to Mormons there was no Church for 18 centuries. No church with proper authority to lead. Do we really want Mormons in a position of power with this mentality? God is the one with the power; we just follow what He tells us Joseph Smith became a Master Mason of the occult in 1842. So? Mormons don't use wine to represent the blood of Jesus, but have changed it to water. So? Without the shedding of blood their is no forgiveness. Right. Jesus' blood. We overcome Satan by the blood of the lamb. The salvation of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. We agree the cross was part of our salvation. They like to use Christian terminology but change the meaning of everything as you would expect. Just to what the Bible says it is. Mormons are not monotheistic but polytheism. Actually we are Henotheists Lorenzo said as man is God once was man may become. By George I think he's got it! Satan said you can become like God by eating the forbidden fruit. God said that too. Read Genesis 3:22 It's the same lie today. But eternal judgment is waiting Mormons. I'm not worried. Gates of Hell can't come against the Church so Mormons are wrong. Right. they can't come against the Mormon Church. There wouldn't be so many contradictions if Joseph Smith was a prophet. What contradictions? Look in the mirror brother. Mormons teach Jesus was born in Jerusalem but the Bible says Bethlehem "house of bread". Jesus was born in the "Land of Jerusalem". (Alma 7:10) Of course Joseph Smith knew He was born in the city of Bethlehem. Everyone knows that. BofM 600 BC to 400 AD. How can there be cows in the Americas and silk? Why not? Couldn't find any coins. The actual Book of Mormon scripture never says anything about coins. Darkness would cover the earth for 3 days when Jesus died on the cross. The Bible says 3 hours. It was three days in the Americas and 3 hours in the East. BofM says Enoch lived 400 years. Bible says 365 years. The BOM says nothing about Enoch. Joseph Smith didn't know the Bible very well. Well then you don't know Joseph Smith very well God the Father has body of flesh and bone? Bible says God is spirit. God said, Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have. Luke 24: 39 Joseph Smith polygamy was an everlasting covenant otherwise you are damned. Right for some. Bible says you must be a husband of one wife if you get married. Correct now. But what about Abraham, Solomon, Jacob, Moses, etc who all had more than one wife? Edited January 30, 2016 by JAHS 2
JLHPROF Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 1 minute ago, JAHS said: No crosses on Mormon buildings only Satanic pentagrams. They are not satanic just decoration Not Satanic, but not just decoration. Ok, maybe decorative, but with deep significance. The extent and depth of symbolism of the Salt Lake Temple is one of the most incredible achievements of Mormonism, and to me is proof positive of the Heavenly direction that built that sacred building.
JAHS Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 4 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Not Satanic, but not just decoration. Ok, maybe decorative, but with deep significance. The extent and depth of symbolism of the Salt Lake Temple is one of the most incredible achievements of Mormonism, and to me is proof positive of the Heavenly direction that built that sacred building. Right. I was going for short simple answers so his simple mind could understand. Actually early Christian artwork depicted the Star of Bethlehem as an inverted pentagram and in the Eastern Orthodox Church, the inverted pentagram is used to indicate the Mount of Transfiguration, where Christ spoke with Elijah and Moses, 3
Calm Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Our_Lady_of_Victory_(Marble_Cliff,_Ohio),_interior,_terrazzo_floor,_cross_inside_pentagram_(symbolizes_the_5_wounds_of_Christ).jpg
Raingirl Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 1 hour ago, savedwheat said: Lets check on some fruits of Mormons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RU721E0IJRI No crosses on Mormon buildings only Satanic pentagrams. McConkie said if it was not for Joseph Smith there would be no salvation....so people since Christ never got saved because according to Mormons there was no Church for 18 centuries. Do we really want Mormons in a position of power with this mentality? Joseph Smith became a Master Mason of the occult in 1842. Mormons practiced slit throats for revealing anything that happens in their temples. Mormons like to use the Masonic all seeing eye on their buildings. It's like they are trying to hit you over the head they are Satanic. Mormons don't use wine to represent the blood of Jesus, but have changed it to water. Without the shedding of blood their is no forgiveness. All cults try to water down this. We overcome Satan by the blood of the lamb. The salvation of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing. They like to use Christian terminology but change the meaning of everything as you would expect Mormons are not monotheistic but polytheism. Lorenzo said as man is God once was man may become. Satan said you can become like God by eating the forbidden fruit. Mormons think they are gods. It's the same lie today. But eternal judgment is waiting Mormons. Gates of Hell can't come against the Church so Mormons are wrong. There wouldn't be so many contradictions if Joseph Smith was a prophet. Mormons teach Jesus was born in Jerusalem but the Bible says Bethlehem "house of bread". BofM 600 BC to 400 AD. How can there be cows in the Americas and silk? Couldn't find any coins. Lie, lie, lies. Darkness would cover the earth for 3 days when Jesus died on the cross. The Bible says 3 hours. BofM says Enoch lived 400 years. Bible says 365 years. Joseph Smith didn't know the Bible very well. God the Father has body of flesh and bone? Bible says God is spirit. Joseph Smith polygamy was an everlasting covenant otherwise you are damned. Bible says you must be a husband of one wife if you get married. The utter ignorance in this post is so overwhelming that it makes me tired even just thinking about responding. But I wonder if you actually even understand your own so-called religion or if your comprehension begins and ends with the (questionable) ability to copy information from elsewhere for regurgitation here. I cannot even begin to imagine you being able to hold your own in a real, live discussion about the gospel, the Bible or....anything else, really. 3
maxrep12 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 On 1/24/2016 at 3:38 AM, savedwheat said: Why would Christians go to Hell? To visit the Mormons? Seriously, I'm a critic of the LDS church. That means I don't believe. But you're not making a good case for yourself here. When you speak in cliche's, I can't take you seriously. When you type, it all reads like religious bumper stickers. Saved, my friend, arguing about the Godhead/trinity here is irrelevant. 1
maxrep12 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Raingirl said: 1 hour ago, savedwheat said: BofM says Enoch lived 400 years. Bible says 365 years. Those calculations were based off of dog years. BofM - 57 years, Bible 52 - years. Lets split the difference and say he lived to the age of 55. Edited January 30, 2016 by maxrep12 1
halconero Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 2 hours ago, JAHS said: Right. I was going for short simple answers so his simple mind could understand. Actually early Christian artwork depicted the Star of Bethlehem as an inverted pentagram and in the Eastern Orthodox Church, the inverted pentagram is used to indicate the Mount of Transfiguration, where Christ spoke with Elijah and Moses, Yeah, but savedwheat also believes that Orthodoxy and Catholicism...and most church fathers were misguided or the churches/leaders of Satan. He also lumps in Calvinists, Lutherans and Anglicans in there. Oh, and one of his criticisms is that we're restorationists...
Jim Stiles Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 6 hours ago, savedwheat said: ...Everything Mormons say is wrong... On the off chance that he can see this, this would be outstanding, if it were true. The LDS church disapproves of homosexuality. Should Christians approve of homosexuality? The LDS church disapproves of murder. Should we murder? Boy, do I like coffee. 2
Jim Stiles Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 4 hours ago, JAHS said: Right. I was going for short simple answers so his simple mind could understand. Actually early Christian artwork depicted the Star of Bethlehem as an inverted pentagram and in the Eastern Orthodox Church, the inverted pentagram is used to indicate the Mount of Transfiguration, where Christ spoke with Elijah and Moses, I have been led to believe that the pentagrams in the Nauvoo Temple come from Masonic design and not some specifically religious (or irreligious) design. Am I wrong?
Avatar4321 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 8 hours ago, savedwheat said: I was born-again 15 years ago and have eternal life and have the Holy Spirit indwelling. Why would I need to get save again? Bad fruit
Bobbieaware Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 16 hours ago, Ahab said: Yeah I don't think we disagree, either. I'm just saying one must come before the other, and without the first the second won't happen. We do our part and our Lord and the Spirit then do theit part. Or actually our Lord did his part and then we must do our part before the Lord and the Spirit do their part finish the work that will eventually lead to us becoming like them. Something like that. In reality, I might be considered an extremist when it comes to how critically important it is to have correct belief. The reason I say this is because I believe a critical analysis of D&C 76 and D&C 138 reveals entry into even the telestial kingdom can only be obtained by a sincere confession of faith that Jesus Christ is the Savior and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the only true and living church of Christ on the earth. I believe there is no salvation outside of belief in the true Christ, and the true Christ is the God who stands at the head of the Church of Jesus Christ of LAtter-day Saints.
busybee Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 10 hours ago, savedwheat said: Everything Mormons say is wrong. You're painting with your broad brush again!!!! You don't even know everything that Mormons say. In fact, I very much doubt that you have met and conversed with any Mormons other than those you have encountered here. So I'll counter your broad claim by saying that everything savedwheat (you) says is garbled nonsense. Feels good doesn't it. I have no idea how you expect people to respect you or your opinions when you are so blatantly rude and disrespectful of LDS and their beliefs. What is your purpose here? If you are hoping to convert us or save us from what you perceive to be incorrect beliefs, you're going about it in a very strange way. You don't convince people by insulting them and telling them that everything they say is 'wrong'. If your aim is to convert, may I suggest that you jog on to your next target group and see how your current methods work there. I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you. 1
busybee Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 6 hours ago, halconero said: Yeah, but savedwheat also believes that Orthodoxy and Catholicism...and most church fathers were misguided or the churches/leaders of Satan. He also lumps in Calvinists, Lutherans and Anglicans in there. Oh, and one of his criticisms is that we're restorationists... I'm guessing savedwheat may be singing this is his heaven https://youtu.be/P5zzkpbGla4
Zakuska Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) How about the clock tower on the church that old satan worshiper who translated the bible Martin Luther built? The things got to be six hundred and sixty six feet tall! Edited January 30, 2016 by Zakuska 1
Anakin7 Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 He is recieving MUCH GRACE from the moderators to stay on this board. In His Eternal Debt/Grace Anakin7 1
Zakuska Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Or how about these Satan Worshipers in European Cathedrals? Seems to me the inverted pentagram has been a perfectly good and holy "Christian symbol" for a very long time until it was accausted in the 1960s. 100s of years after Mormons used it. Edited January 30, 2016 by Zakuska 1
Zakuska Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 Here's some more modern and not so modern uses...
Zakuska Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 And just look at these All seeing eyes all over these Mormon buildings! Proof positve mormons are Satanic! 1
Zakuska Posted January 30, 2016 Posted January 30, 2016 (edited) Even the Jews are getting in on a little Satan worship... look at this Synagog of Satan in Los Angelos in the 1950s. Edited January 30, 2016 by Zakuska 1
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