The Nehor Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 13 hours ago, Tacenda said: http://radiowest.kuer.org/post/if-lights-went-out-america-0 Maybe the preppers are not so crazy. In this interview with Ted Koppel, he mentions there being an 80 to 90 percent chance of a cyber attack on the power grid system that could affect millions. This is scary, I really need to get my act together. In the interview it was mentioned the power could be off for up to two years. This thought has never occurred to me. Ever since the deal with China and people from there cyber attacking US companies and stealing from them, it makes you wonder. Saw this info on 60 minutes I believe. I really don't know what to think. Just thought I'd post this, in case any of you out there are like me and haven't prepared like they should. Not to depress everyone, hopefully one of you can show that it can't happen and make my day! We experience thousands of cyberattacks every day. Of course it is likely some will target the power grid. As to two years I doubt it.
Ahab Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 9 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: Chocolate. The more you want the more you'll want to have tins of cocoa, sugar, milk, and butter/margarine/oil to make it. As well as some flour if you want to make brownies. My pantry has lots and lots of such things and we cycle through them regularly. You'll also probably want to have a nice stone or brick fireplace for baking and cooking, outdoors and indoors, and lots of wood to make lots of fires. Wood cometh from trees, and I have lots of them nearby without too many neighbors.
Ahab Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 3 hours ago, longview said: Consider getting a Sun Oven. It would be a nice hobby baking your own loafs of bread without the toxic smoke of a fire. Better to just learn how to build fires and keep them going without any smoke near the food. Stone or brick ovens are some of the best ovens for baking and you can get cookware to cook on or near fires too.
thesometimesaint Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 1 hour ago, Ahab said: Better to just learn how to build fires and keep them going without any smoke near the food. Stone or brick ovens are some of the best ovens for baking and you can get cookware to cook on or near fires too. Fires require fuel, a place for the smoke, and close tending. Solar ovens require none of those. Solar ovens are great for baking or anything that requires a long cooking time. No special cookware is required a cast iron skillet, and/or pot is about all you need. They are practically indestructible and last just about forever.
Zakuska Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said: Fires require fuel, a place for the smoke, and close tending. Solar ovens require none of those. Solar ovens are great for baking or anything that requires a long cooking time. No special cookware is required a cast iron skillet, and/or pot is about all you need. They are practically indestructible and last just about forever. The problem with solar ovens... well.. is the sun. What if super volcanic ash blocks out the sun for a year or so? It's not a bad idea. You just need a contingency plan as well.
thesometimesaint Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, Zakuska said: The problem with solar ovens... well.. is the sun. What if super volcanic ash blocks out the sun for a year or so? It's not a bad idea. You just need a contingency plan as well. If a super volcano blows anywhere near us we'll have a lot more to worry about than cooking with the sun. A small propane oven and stove works when there isn't enough sun light.
The Nehor Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 42 minutes ago, Zakuska said: The problem with solar ovens... well.. is the sun. What if super volcanic ash blocks out the sun for a year or so? It's not a bad idea. You just need a contingency plan as well. My contingency plan if the sun is blocked off for a year is to die. 3
Jeanne Posted January 18, 2016 Posted January 18, 2016 16 hours ago, Tacenda said: http://radiowest.kuer.org/post/if-lights-went-out-america-0 Maybe the preppers are not so crazy. In this interview with Ted Koppel, he mentions there being an 80 to 90 percent chance of a cyber attack on the power grid system that could affect millions. This is scary, I really need to get my act together. In the interview it was mentioned the power could be off for up to two years. This thought has never occurred to me. Ever since the deal with China and people from there cyber attacking US companies and stealing from them, it makes you wonder. Saw this info on 60 minutes I believe. I really don't know what to think. Just thought I'd post this, in case any of you out there are like me and haven't prepared like they should. Not to depress everyone, hopefully one of you can show that it can't happen and make my day! I have always believed as I grew older that the end of the world woudn't be God destroying the universerse..but that people here on the earth could do that all by themselves. Scary... 1
Ahab Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 4 hours ago, thesometimesaint said: Fires require fuel, a place for the smoke, and close tending. Solar ovens require none of those. Solar ovens are great for baking or anything that requires a long cooking time. No special cookware is required a cast iron skillet, and/or pot is about all you need. They are practically indestructible and last just about forever. I live in the Pacific NW of the US. Lots of rain, little sun that can be seen, lots of trees around including very close to my house. So I am a fire kinda guy. Keep one going in my house 6 months out of the year and lots of times outside too. You sound like you probably live in a desert, so yeah go ahead with the solar oven idea for you.
Traela Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 5 hours ago, The Nehor said: My contingency plan if the sun is blocked off for a year is to die. If the sun is blocked off for a year, it's probably because Yellowstone blew. DH and I have decided we'll drive toward the blast and be done already.
The Nehor Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Just now, Traela said: If the sun is blocked off for a year, it's probably because Yellowstone blew. DH and I have decided we'll drive toward the blast and be done already. Probably smart. I think I would make a nice meal first. Maybe finish the book I am reading.
mfbukowski Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 14 hours ago, Sanpitch said: However, Tacenda, a wise person somewhere said, "I've had a lot of worries in my life, most of which never happened." It's been the same in my life, most worries never happen. The older people remember worries of a nuclear attack from Russia and building bomb shelters to survive in. Before that was the Second World War and before that was etc. I have an older brother who has thought disaster was eminent for most of his life, he's now in his eighties. It's proper to has some thought to emergency supplies and then start to worry about getting in a car wreck or something else that's more likely to happen. Worries are usually more prominent in the night time, when the sun comes up they usually dissipate. Do you have insurance on your house? 1
Sanpitch Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 20 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: Do you have insurance on your house? No none at all and only liability on my cars. 1
thesometimesaint Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 5 hours ago, Ahab said: I live in the Pacific NW of the US. Lots of rain, little sun that can be seen, lots of trees around including very close to my house. So I am a fire kinda guy. Keep one going in my house 6 months out of the year and lots of times outside too. You sound like you probably live in a desert, so yeah go ahead with the solar oven idea for you. Not a desert, but Chaparral. Even in Seattle solar ovens work.
saemo Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 On January 18, 2016 at 10:49 PM, Tacenda said: http://radiowest.kuer.org/post/if-lights-went-out-america-0 Maybe the preppers are not so crazy. In this interview with Ted Koppel, he mentions there being an 80 to 90 percent chance of a cyber attack on the power grid system that could affect millions. This is scary, I really need to get my act together. In the interview it was mentioned the power could be off for up to two years. This thought has never occurred to me. Ever since the deal with China and people from there cyber attacking US companies and stealing from them, it makes you wonder. Saw this info on 60 minutes I believe. I really don't know what to think. Just thought I'd post this, in case any of you out there are like me and haven't prepared like they should. Not to depress everyone, hopefully one of you can show that it can't happen and make my day! http://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Folding-Charge-Controller/dp/B00ICE0ES4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1453186245&sr=8-7&keywords=Portable+solar+panel 1
Stargazer Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 14 hours ago, halconero said: Thanks Stargazer, My dad was in the Canadian Military for a long time, and when he went from regulars the reserve force (with the intention of eventually quitting to focus on education, which he did) he actually trained a lot with the Americans at Ft. Lewis (were from right over the border in BC). Depending on when you served and if you interacted with the Canadians that much you might have done some exercises with him at some point. I can understand the mentality as well, and in the short-term it can be a good thing. My dad experienced with the Soviets invaded Afghanistan and the rhetoric between the US and the USSR was at its height. They were told be on constant alert to deploy. An imminent danger feeling or vibe is probably a physiologically and mentally good thing for short periods of time, such as the rotation you were in. I think we'd agree that keeping that mentality long term probably isn't the most healthy thing in the world, even though preparedness is a definite virtue. From what you say, your Dad was with the Patricias! Or more formally, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry! But if in the reserves, then the affiliated unit, the Loyal Edmonton Regiment. I didn't personally get to operate with them, but elements of the regiment were with us on the ground for JRX Jack Frost in Alaska in January 1979. Brrrr. That was cold. 1
Stargazer Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 12 hours ago, Zakuska said: The problem with solar ovens... well.. is the sun. What if super volcanic ash blocks out the sun for a year or so? It's not a bad idea. You just need a contingency plan as well. Agreed. I live in Western Washington, in the part where 75% of the time we have overcast. Perhaps some ultraviolet gets through, but I don't know if that cooks anything. 1
Tacenda Posted January 19, 2016 Author Posted January 19, 2016 3 hours ago, saemo said: http://www.amazon.com/ECO-WORTHY-Portable-Folding-Charge-Controller/dp/B00ICE0ES4/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1453186245&sr=8-7&keywords=Portable+solar+panel Way cool, have you tried this out Saemo?
rodheadlee Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 On 1/18/2016 at 10:21 PM, VideoGameJunkie said: I'm screwed and unprepared which is why I hope the disasters preceding the 2nd Coming are after my lifetime. Why don't you start preparing? It's never too late. 1
thesometimesaint Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 4 hours ago, Stargazer said: 4 hours ago, Stargazer said: 4 hours ago, Stargazer said: Solar ovens in Seattle. SEE https://www.facebook.com/SeattleSolarCooking
Ahab Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 3 hours ago, thesometimesaint said: Solar ovens in Seattle. SEE https://www.facebook.com/SeattleSolarCooking Uh, yeah, still not gettin it. If a solar oven is your idea of emergency backup cooking/baking equipment for the Pacific NW you'd be wise to have a backup for that backup because most of the year around here that just ain't gonna work. Come on up here now and stay a while to see what I mean. 1
halconero Posted January 19, 2016 Posted January 19, 2016 Honestly, camping stove with some propane or gas will last you a while and is far more reliable. The one I have, along with three or so mini propane tanks can fit into a small corner of my rucksack and weighs about 3 lbs all together. 1
thesometimesaint Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 (edited) 6 hours ago, Ahab said: Uh, yeah, still not gettin it. If a solar oven is your idea of emergency backup cooking/baking equipment for the Pacific NW you'd be wise to have a backup for that backup because most of the year around here that just ain't gonna work. Come on up here now and stay a while to see what I mean. My only point is that solar ovens do work even in places like Seattle. I've been in Seattle a few times, years ago. But no, even here I don't depend on the sun to cook my food. It is just one of many methods I have available if need and want are considered. Edited January 20, 2016 by thesometimesaint
Zakuska Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 22 hours ago, The Nehor said: Probably smart. I think I would make a nice meal first. Maybe finish the book I am reading. You have heard the Bison and Deer are fleeing Yellowstone in anticipation of the big bang right?
saemo Posted January 20, 2016 Posted January 20, 2016 20 hours ago, Tacenda said: Way cool, have you tried this out Saemo? No, have been contemplating a solar charger that would keep my phone going. Power seems to go out a lot in some parts. Off topic, I find it enormously fascinating that the power stays on uninterrupted for years, in some very populous places, but in other rural areas, small summer thunderstorm knocks it all out. More often than not, I'm where it goes out with one lightening strike.
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