Alvie J Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Hello, With General Conference fast approaching I thought that I would once again post a link to my University Research paper entitled "The Mormon Cipher" It explores all the strange names as found within the 1830 first ed. Book of Mormon as a ciphered text. Its is actually quiet fascinating not to mention "mind boggling". It is full of pictures and colored graphics to help the reader along the path of discovering a deeper and more true interpretation of the Book of Mormon> Click below to view a new discovery: https://www.academia.edu/7892970/The_Mormon_Cipher 1
cinepro Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Holy cow. How much time did you spend putting that together? And when you say "University Research paper", are you referring to a specific University?
jkwilliams Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 No offense, but as a writer and editor, I found it painful to read just the few pages I looked at. It needs some serious editing. 3
Russell C McGregor Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 No offense, but as a writer and editor, I found it painful to read just the few pages I looked at. It needs some serious editing. Have another look, John; I'm sure this paper will delight you to know ends.
Kenngo1969 Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Holy cow. How much time did you spend putting that together? ... With no disrespect intended toward Alvie J, whose brilliance I simply might be missing (dimwit that I am), I'd say there are two possibilities: 1. Not nearly enough, or2. Waaaaay too much.
Kenngo1969 Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 ... It is full of pictures and colored graphics to help the reader along the path of discovering a deeper and more true interpretation of the Book of Mormon> ...Ummm, yeah, cuz, like, who needs prophets and apostles and stuff, right? 1
rodheadlee Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Holy cow. How much time did you spend putting that together? And when you say "University Research paper", are you referring to a specific University?Dixie State University is what it says on the paper.
The Nehor Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 You need to get help from an editor. Preferably a literate one.
jkwilliams Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Why be mean?I was quite serious. He needs a serious edit. Nothing mean about it. 1
The Nehor Posted September 28, 2015 Posted September 28, 2015 Why be mean?Because I took the time to read a few painful pages of misspellings, grammar errors, and incoherence and the pain drove me to unkindness. 1
pogi Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Hello, I am glad you are here to help me understand your paper. I have stumbled upon it before, and after reading several pages and scrolling through, I was quite confused. It seems to be a strange mix of numerology and alleged secret messages coded into the book of Mormon. Do you really believe that there are secret messages coded into the BoM? Can you give us a brief explanation or overview of the main points of your paper? What are we to understand from it? What is this alleged "deeper and more true interpretation of the Book of Mormon" that we will learn from deciphering these secret messages? Here is a small example from your article that leaves me scratching my head: The last number found within the Book of Jarom is 238. If we invert 180º (horizontal shift) the number then reads 832 and divide by pi we get the number 264.841 Note: it is of importance that the reader remember the number 238 as it will be found in the later on in the paper within the Ether 9 key and Com. Also, the reader needs to remember the page number it is found on (147) and the use of Pi as it will be discussed in the Kaliphornia encryption. 832/3.1415=264.841 This leaves us with the number.841. If we follow our inverting sequence and 180º horizontal shift.841 shifts to read 148. It is noted that 148 is the page number that the rest of the numbers for the Omni Cipher Key can be found, quite clever indeed. Note:L:328@180°=832R:841@180°=148Totaling:360°(what we do to the left we must do to the right) I don't mean to be rude, but this whole paper reminds me of the movie "A Beautiful Mind". It looks like a bunch of schizophrenic nonsense to me. Please show me that I am just simple minded and wrong. Edited September 29, 2015 by pogi
Popular Post Ginger Snaps Posted September 29, 2015 Popular Post Posted September 29, 2015 Doesn't this sort of defeat the whole "plain and precious truths" thing? 5
pogi Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Alvie, Alvie, Alvie...please tell me this is not you: http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2015/07/13/kss-erratic-driving-lands-2-st-george-men-in-jail/#.VgngSrSCZOo http://www.utahsright.com/chargesprofile.php?id=3408051 Edited September 29, 2015 by pogi
Calm Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 It is full of pictures and colored graphics to help the reader along the path of discovering a deeper and more true interpretation of the Book of Mormon]"Thousands of psychologists the world over will all commonly agree that the COCAINE – AMMONIA encryption will go a long ways in explaining the behaviors and spiritual manifestations of early Mormon writes. I have heard a number of different theories, psychological diagnosis and psychoanalytical rhetoric by noted psychologist in regards to claims by early Mormon writers from spiritual visitations to delusions of persecution (not to mention the psycho sexual dysfunctions brought on by the introduction of polygamy by leaders of the early Mormon sect) all common side effects resulting from the usage of these ritualistic substances.""Thousands of psychologists"?Think I will pass. 1
Calm Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Alvie, Alvie, Alvie...please tell me this is not you:http://www.stgeorgeutah.com/news/archive/2015/07/13/kss-erratic-driving-lands-2-st-george-men-in-jail/#.VgngSrSCZOohttp://www.utahsright.com/chargesprofile.php?id=3408051Mugshot looks like the same guy as in his profile picture. Edited September 29, 2015 by Calm
The Nehor Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 "Thousands of psychologists the world over will all commonly agree that the COCAINE – AMMONIA encryption will go a long ways in explaining the behaviors and spiritual manifestations of early Mormon writes. I have heard a number of different theories, psychological diagnosis and psychoanalytical rhetoric by noted psychologist in regards to claims by early Mormon writers from spiritual visitations to delusions of persecution (not to mention the psycho sexual dysfunctions brought on by the introduction of polygamy by leaders of the early Mormon sect) all common side effects resulting from the usage of these ritualistic substances." This was the part where the laughing and the pain started. 2
The Nehor Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Pro tip for book writing: Insulting your readers for their lack of education is generally an amateur move:"I've studied a great number of esoteric books and manuscripts for the last two decades now. Most of my research is from the early sixteenth through nineteenth century. My studies lead me to numerical sequences, common number if you will, that can be found in a great number of different books written throughout history.I really don’t expect many to comprehend theimportance of esoteric numerical data simply due to their lack of educational background and experience in this enigmatic field. So I apologize to the layman who find it hard to follow the needed logic. To you I would just add: at least the paper is colorful and filled with pictures."Good thing you put in the pictures for the idiots who might stumble on your academic masterpiece.It is difficult to sustain pretensions like this while displaying writing skill of this caliber..."Then of course we will have the cryptologist, men who spend their lifetimes braking old encryption and pondering over strange works left behind by the ancients. These men will be the first to see that which is so plain to see(it’s their field of study). And here I will note, to the men who love solving abstract riddles in the form of cryptic text, this paper will delight you to know ends."...which will rightly make you a target for ridicule and make your English teachers cry in shame over their abject failure. 2
Robert F. Smith Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 No offense, but as a writer and editor, I found it painful to read just the few pages I looked at. It needs some serious editing. We told him that the last time he placed this material before us. Presentation is everything.
Robert F. Smith Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Pro tip for book writing: Insulting your readers for their lack of education is generally an amateur move:"I've studied a great number of esoteric books and manuscripts for the last two decades now. Most of my research is from the early sixteenth through nineteenth century. My studies lead me to numerical sequences, common number if you will, that can be found in a great number of different books written throughout history.I really don’t expect many to comprehend theimportance of esoteric numerical data simply due to their lack of educational background and experience in this enigmatic field. So I apologize to the layman who find it hard to follow the needed logic. To you I would just add: at least the paper is colorful and filled with pictures."Good thing you put in the pictures for the idiots who might stumble on your academic masterpiece.It is difficult to sustain pretensions like this while displaying writing skill of this caliber..."Then of course we will have the cryptologist, men who spend their lifetimes braking old encryption and pondering over strange works left behind by the ancients. These men will be the first to see that which is so plain to see(it’s their field of study). And here I will note, to the men who love solving abstract riddles in the form of cryptic text, this paper will delight you to know ends."...which will rightly make you a target for ridicule and make your English teachers cry in shame over their abject failure.Be kind, Nehor. Just recommend he adopt the approach of Douglas R. Hofstadter, Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid (N.Y.: Basic Books, 1979/ reissued with new Preface, 1999), which is a joy to read -- even if few of us can understand it.
The Nehor Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Be kind, Nehor. Just recommend he adopt the approach of Douglas R. Hofstadter, Gödel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid (N.Y.: Basic Books, 1979/ reissued with new Preface, 1999), which is a joy to read -- even if few of us can understand it.I read that book once. It was clever but I did not really enjoy it. He may have broken a lot of rules of writing but you have to know the rules before you know when you should break them.
jkwilliams Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 "Thousands of psychologists the world over will all commonly agree that the COCAINE – AMMONIA encryption will go a long ways in explaining the behaviors and spiritual manifestations of early Mormon writes. I have heard a number of different theories, psychological diagnosis and psychoanalytical rhetoric by noted psychologist in regards to claims by early Mormon writers from spiritual visitations to delusions of persecution (not to mention the psycho sexual dysfunctions brought on by the introduction of polygamy by leaders of the early Mormon sect) all common side effects resulting from the usage of these ritualistic substances.""Thousands of psychologists"?Think I will pass. Not meaning to pile on, but he's a registered sex offender. http://www.icrimewatch.net/offenderdetails.php?OfndrID=707148&AgencyID=54438
rodheadlee Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 Not meaning to pile on, but he's a registered sex offender. http://www.icrimewatch.net/offenderdetails.php?OfndrID=707148&AgencyID=54438And that is a reason to be rude?
jkwilliams Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 And that is a reason to be rude? Pointing out that he's in dire need of an editor is not rude.
ALarson Posted September 29, 2015 Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) And that is a reason to be rude?Have you read the paper? jkwilliams is not the only person suggesting the need for editing. How is that rude? If you think the paper is good, why not point out what you like about it? Edited September 29, 2015 by ALarson
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