cinepro Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 We are all familiar with the story of Lehi's dream, as recounted in 1 Nephi 8, and the odd interjection of a "great and spacious building" nearby: 24 And it came to pass that I beheld others pressing forward, and they came forth and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron; and they did press forward through the mist of darkness, clinging to the rod of iron, even until they did come forth and partake of the fruit of the tree. 25 And after they had partaken of the fruit of the tree they did cast their eyes about as if they were ashamed. 26 And I also cast my eyes round about, and beheld, on the other side of the river of water, a great and spacious building; and it stood as it were in the air, high above the earth. 27 And it was filled with people, both old and young, both male and female; and their manner of dress was exceedingly fine; and they were in the attitude of mocking and pointing their fingers towards those who had come at and were partaking of the fruit. https://www.lds.org/scriptures/bofm/1-ne/8 It has always seemed odd to me that there would be such a building so close to the holy Tree of Life. But as I've recently read and pondered that chapter, it occurs to me that there is something we may have missed that ties it all together. It's entirely probably that Lehi didn't just see the building; he probably owned it, perhaps as an investment. I would suggest that in the past, the area around the Tree of Life was blighted; while the Tree itself was nice, the shrubs and other regular trees fell into unkemptness. Obviously, these would not be ideal surroundings for a Tree of Life, so Lehi, being a man of great wealth, decided to improve the area with a large market or bazaar. Such a market or bazaar would trade in the finest goods, and allow the local people to buy clothing that is exceedingly fine. Is verse 31 describing anything other than this? So while we can be dismayed at the attitude of the people who were mocking the righteous from the G&SB, we can also take comfort in the idea that the building was probably beautifying the area near the Tree of Life, providing employment for many of the locals, and ultimately helping to make Lehi wealthier, which ultimately could have funded his journey to the New World and his other righteous endeavors. 2
bluebell Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 We are all familiar with the story of Lehi's dream, as recounted in 1 Nephi 8, and the odd interjection of a "great and spacious building" nearby: It has always seemed odd to me that there would be such a building so close to the holy Tree of Life. But as I've recently read and pondered that chapter, it occurs to me that there is something we may have missed that ties it all together. It's entirely probably that Lehi didn't just see the building; he probably owned it, perhaps as an investment. I would suggest that in the past, the area around the Tree of Life was blighted; while the Tree itself was nice, the shrubs and other regular trees fell into unkemptness. Obviously, these would not be ideal surroundings for a Tree of Life, so Lehi, being a man of great wealth, decided to improve the area with a large market or bazaar. Such a market or bazaar would trade in the finest goods, and allow the local people to buy clothing that is exceedingly fine. Is verse 31 describing anything other than this? So while we can be dismayed at the attitude of the people who were mocking the righteous from the G&SB, we can also take comfort in the idea that the building was probably beautifying the area near the Tree of Life, providing employment for many of the locals, and ultimately helping to make Lehi wealthier, which ultimately could have funded his journey to the New World and his other righteous endeavors. If Lehi consulted God about it before he built it, and got the o.k., then it seems like a good answer to a very real problem. Or, you know, whatever. 2
ttribe Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 We are all familiar with the story of Lehi's dream, as recounted in 1 Nephi 8, and the odd interjection of a "great and spacious building" nearby: It has always seemed odd to me that there would be such a building so close to the holy Tree of Life. But as I've recently read and pondered that chapter, it occurs to me that there is something we may have missed that ties it all together. It's entirely probably that Lehi didn't just see the building; he probably owned it, perhaps as an investment. I would suggest that in the past, the area around the Tree of Life was blighted; while the Tree itself was nice, the shrubs and other regular trees fell into unkemptness. Obviously, these would not be ideal surroundings for a Tree of Life, so Lehi, being a man of great wealth, decided to improve the area with a large market or bazaar. Such a market or bazaar would trade in the finest goods, and allow the local people to buy clothing that is exceedingly fine. Is verse 31 describing anything other than this? So while we can be dismayed at the attitude of the people who were mocking the righteous from the G&SB, we can also take comfort in the idea that the building was probably beautifying the area near the Tree of Life, providing employment for many of the locals, and ultimately helping to make Lehi wealthier, which ultimately could have funded his journey to the New World and his other righteous endeavors.
Buckeye Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 I've heard that the 116 pages included additional detail about the vision, including Sam's odd statement of "Let's Go Swimming!!" It all makes sense now, thanks.
Crypto Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Seems like you would need a little bit more support before that interpretation works. 1
longview Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 You forgot to add an appropriate emoticon to your initial post. har har har
stemelbow Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 interesting. Makes ya wonder who makes up those inside the G&SP. It's likely the building is filled with LDS folks.
bluebell Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 interesting. Makes ya wonder who makes up those inside the G&SP. It's likely the building is filled with LDS folks. According to cinepro's theory and the analogy he has presented, it's not LDS in the building, but we did build it for them. Because we love providing shelter for those who then mock us. Makes perfect sense. Cinepro's obviously a genius.
filovirus Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 interesting. Makes ya wonder who makes up those inside the G&SP. It's likely the building is filled with LDS folks.The G&SB represents the "vain imaginations" and "pride". So most definitely can be both LDS and non-LDS people inside. 2
stemelbow Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 According to cinepro's theory and the analogy he has presented, it's not LDS in the building, but we did build it for them. Because we love providing shelter for those who then mock us. Makes perfect sense. Cinepro's obviously a genius. Just saying the mall is filled with LDS people.
BlueDreams Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 We are all familiar with the story of Lehi's dream, as recounted in 1 Nephi 8, and the odd interjection of a "great and spacious building" nearby: It has always seemed odd to me that there would be such a building so close to the holy Tree of Life. But as I've recently read and pondered that chapter, it occurs to me that there is something we may have missed that ties it all together. It's entirely probably that Lehi didn't just see the building; he probably owned it, perhaps as an investment. I would suggest that in the past, the area around the Tree of Life was blighted; while the Tree itself was nice, the shrubs and other regular trees fell into unkemptness. Obviously, these would not be ideal surroundings for a Tree of Life, so Lehi, being a man of great wealth, decided to improve the area with a large market or bazaar. Such a market or bazaar would trade in the finest goods, and allow the local people to buy clothing that is exceedingly fine. Is verse 31 describing anything other than this? So while we can be dismayed at the attitude of the people who were mocking the righteous from the G&SB, we can also take comfort in the idea that the building was probably beautifying the area near the Tree of Life, providing employment for many of the locals, and ultimately helping to make Lehi wealthier, which ultimately could have funded his journey to the New World and his other righteous endeavors.It literally took me a good 2 minutes to realize this was satire and I was going to point to a cool article I read that tied Lehi's dream to the contemporary problems of his day... and then I was like, wait a second! Slow on my feet this afternoon. Either that or it was a bit of a stretch. Considering I believe thoroughly in blaming other people for my problems, I think I'm gonna go with that answer. Too stretched out, poor analogy....tighten that stuff up! <-- this makes everything I said a joke and thus ok to say. I'm pretty sure that's how it works. 2
BlueDreams Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Just saying the mall is filled with LDS people. They're probably the ones that partook of the neighboring landscape, particularly the flower displays and were ashamed....ergo they fell into the man made creek in the city and allowed their children to play in the dirty spouting water as they partook in some strange paths, such as Blue Lemon food. 2
bluebell Posted September 16, 2015 Posted September 16, 2015 Just saying the mall is filled with LDS people. I've been to the mall a few times, it's filled with all kinds of people. Just by watching what people are wearing and how they are interacting you can tell it's a pretty diverse place! 3
Popular Post The Nehor Posted September 16, 2015 Popular Post Posted September 16, 2015 Since the building fell in the end it was obviously not up to code. If Lehi owned it it was obviously a trap to catch his mocking enemies. Makes going shopping at the SLC mall more exciting. 5
pogi Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Given that the great and spacious building represents the pride of the world, I would venture to say that you are right cinepro, Lehi probably did have some ownership in it, as we all do.
Ahab Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 The tree represents the love of our Father, so what I think is interesting is that it is in a particular place, with boundaries. As if we have to do something to get to it, or feel it, or get any fruit/benefit from it. And the idea that people would laugh and mock those who get it or feel it is especially strange.Think of that. People mocking others who are getting and feeling our Father's love. Those are some especially depraved children.
ttribe Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 The tree represents the love of our Father, so what I think is interesting is that it is in a particular place, with boundaries. As if we have to do something to get to it, or feel it, or get any fruit/benefit from it. And the idea that people would laugh and mock those who get it or feel it is especially strange.Think of that. People mocking others who are getting and feeling our Father's love. Those are some especially depraved children. Note to Ahab - cinepro's post was satire...about City Creek.
Ahab Posted September 18, 2015 Posted September 18, 2015 Note to Ahab - cinepro's post was satire...about City Creek.So in context that means there are people in that mall who are mocking people outside of that mall because they are getting the love of our Father.Mocking others who are getting some benefit from the love from our Father isn't very mature wherever they are.
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