JLHPROF Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. So I would like to hear some thoughts on this scripture. I have been very much feeling world weary lately.Kind of like Job 10 (My soul is weary of my life; I will leave my complaint upon myself; I will speak in the bitterness of my soul.) So, I understand how the Savior provides relief from sin through the atonement, how his sacrifice can give us joy, heal pain etc.I also understand how the Savior's sacrifice can heal the damage sin and mortality does to our souls and looking forward to the resurrection. I understand that the spirit can bring peace in trial too. But specifically how do you feel the atonement provides strength as we slog through the day to day? Is it merely in hope for the better future or can the day to day be changed? In what ways can it be changed? What part of the Savior's sacrifice to pay for sin has anything to do with making going to work day in and day out, paying bills, doing housework, dealing with life etc any easier? How can that portion of "the curse" be affected? 3
mfbukowski Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 There is no need to be hard on yourself, if you are truly doing your best. No need to worry about past mistakes, just get on with life and continue trying.He is there for you every minute of every day. 3
Kenngo1969 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 There is no need to be hard on yourself, if you are truly doing your best. No need to worry about past mistakes, just get on with life and continue trying.He is there for you every minute of every day.True, though easier said than done sometimes. Though, sometimes, I'm tempted to sink under the burdens I am asked to bear, I pause and reflect on how Christ has enabled me to carry past burdens, bearing them with me by being yoked with me (though, truthfully, his share has been inordinate, but that's OK; He can take it: He's the Son of God ) if, often, not carrying most (nearly all) of the load. As bewildered and perplexed as I might be sometimes by current circumstances, I can't deny the times He has been there for me. I've reflected elsewhere on the board about three such key moments when the Lord, as He did with Oliver Cowdery, "spake peace to my mind." 2
Avatar4321 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I don't know how it works. Bur I know it does. I've had days I didn't want to get up. I've prayed hard and put in faith to move and before too long I've forgotten myself and found myself empowered by the Spirit. 3
CV75 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. So I would like to hear some thoughts on this scripture. I have been very much feeling world weary lately.Kind of like Job 10 (My soul is weary of my life; I will leave my complaint upon myself; I will speak in the bitterness of my soul.) So, I understand how the Savior provides relief from sin through the atonement, how his sacrifice can give us joy, heal pain etc.I also understand how the Savior's sacrifice can heal the damage sin and mortality does to our souls and looking forward to the resurrection. I understand that the spirit can bring peace in trial too. But specifically how do you feel the atonement provides strength as we slog through the day to day? Is it merely in hope for the better future or can the day to day be changed? In what ways can it be changed? What part of the Savior's sacrifice to pay for sin has anything to do with making going to work day in and day out, paying bills, doing housework, dealing with life etc any easier? How can that portion of "the curse" be affected?I believe His sacrifice did more than pay for our sins. In addition to that sacrifice, He worked and labored to overcome everything we face and cannot overcome on our own, and I think His extreme (infinite and eternal) efforts in this regard contributed to His suffering in the Garden of Gethsemane as well as our sins. “He is interested in the most important as well as the most mundane facets of your life.” https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2014/10/make-the-exercise-of-faith-your-first-priority?lang=eng This article offers four tools or “fundamental habits for securing your life in the power of the Atonement of Jesus Christ.” Some things we can change, some things we cannot. Some things we simply do not change because of higher priorities. I think accepting and learning from these thorns in the flesh is one blessing of the Atonement. And we can always change within ourselves by training ourselves to use these moments to remember the Lord and make some choice in how we can convey more of His light into the world. The “natural man” is the curse, and our frustration with its consequences arises from that. Remembering Mosiah 3:19 helps combat this frustrating aspect of our probation. 1
savedbygrace Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I love this scripture, it gives us such consolation.Come unto me....His invitation to us.I will give you rest...the result of our response to come to Him.And you will find rest to your souls...His consoling grace.He wants us to take His burden which is light, and learn from Him, for He is gentle and humble in heart....perhaps virtues that we should attain to accept His invitation, and receive consolation and His gift of peace. Is His yoke easy and burden light? with the help of His grace yes, because He knows we need His strength to live the life He wishes. Just my thoughts. 1
Kenngo1969 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) I love this scripture, it gives us such consolation.Come unto me....His invitation to us.I will give you rest...the result of our response to come to Him.And you will find rest to your souls...His consoling grace.He wants us to take His burden which is light, and learn from Him, for He is gentle and humble in heart....perhaps virtues that we should attain to accept His invitation, and receive consolation and His gift of peace. Is His yoke easy and burden light? with the help of His grace yes, because He knows we need His strength to live the life He wishes. Just my thoughts. I gave you a rep point for that, SBG. Given some of our previous interactions, I suspect you shouldn't make a habit of expecting me to do so; but, credit where it's due. http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/59861-old-missionary-handbook/page-1 Edited August 4, 2015 by Kenngo1969
Kenngo1969 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Burp! Edited August 4, 2015 by Kenngo1969
jkwilliams Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) For me, the Atonement means I don't have to be perfect. Not that I don't try to be the best I can, but when I fall short, it's not the end of the world. I'm able to get up in the morning and recognize that, imperfect as I am, I can rely on God instead of imagining I can perfect myself, and that makes it much easier to get through the day. Edited August 4, 2015 by jkwilliams 3
Kenngo1969 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) ... I believe His sacrifice did more than pay for our sins. In addition to that sacrifice, He worked and labored to overcome everything we face and cannot overcome on our own, and I think His extreme (infinite and eternal) efforts in this regard contributed to His suffering in the Garden of Gethsemane as well as our sins. Some things we can change, some things we cannot. [Emphasis added by Kenngo1969.] Some things we simply do not change because of higher priorities. I think accepting and learning from these thorns in the flesh is one blessing of the Atonement. And we can always change within ourselves by training ourselves to use these moments to remember the Lord and make some choice in how we can convey more of His light into the world. ... Quoted for truth. I love the Serenity Prayer: "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." (I struggle to know what I can and should strive to change ... not within myself; that's pretty easy to figure out, since there are so many such things ... but with regard to life circumstances. Whatever burdens remain, I know Christ will be with me ... even if, sometimes, I only realize in retrospect that He has been. Edited August 4, 2015 by Kenngo1969
savedbygrace Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I gave you a rep point for that, SBG. Given some of our previous interactions, I suspect you shouldn't make a habit of expecting me to do so; but, credit where it's due. http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/59861-old-missionary-handbook/page-1Thank you, I hope our future interactions will be more positive, I need a quiet life these days.
bluebell Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I don't know how it works. Bur I know it does. I've had days I didn't want to get up. I've prayed hard and put in faith to move and before too long I've forgotten myself and found myself empowered by the Spirit. This has been my experience as well. I have no idea how it works, but i know that when i specifically pray to feel the Savior's peace and to have help with my burdens, i feel better very quickly, even though nothing that I can actual measure has changed.
CV75 Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 Quoted for truth. I love the Serenity Prayer: "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." (I struggle to know what I can and should strive to change ... not within myself; that's pretty easy to figure out, since there are so many such things ... but with regard to life circumstances. Whatever burdens remain, I know Christ will be with me ... even if, sometimes, I only realize in retrospect that He has been. Yes, Elder Bednar speak quite often about these other aspects of the atonement, in talks such as this: https://www.lds.org/ensign/2012/04/the-atonement-and-the-journey-of-mortality?lang=eng "The Savior has suffered not just for our iniquities but also for the inequality, the unfairness, the pain, the anguish, and the emotional distresses that so frequently beset us. There is no physical pain, no anguish of soul, no suffering of spirit, no infirmity or weakness that you or I ever experience during our mortal journey that the Savior did not experience first." No matter what is going on, our natures can change with the enabling power of the atonement. 1
savedbygrace Posted August 4, 2015 Posted August 4, 2015 I think what is also very encouraging is that He says "Come unto me". He doesn't require that we leave our baggage behind somewhere, He is inviting us baggage and all. All that heavy wearying stuff He wants us to bring to Him. 2
JLHPROF Posted August 5, 2015 Author Posted August 5, 2015 I don't know how it works. Bur I know it does. I've had days I didn't want to get up. I've prayed hard and put in faith to move and before too long I've forgotten myself and found myself empowered by the Spirit. That's kind of how I feel. Maybe I'm not praying hard enough lately. Bit more of a "knees brush the floor on the way out the door" days lately.
Avatar4321 Posted August 5, 2015 Posted August 5, 2015 That's kind of how I feel. Maybe I'm not praying hard enough lately. Bit more of a "knees brush the floor on the way out the door" days lately.I don't know if I ever stop praying even though I'm hardly on my knees anymore. They can't take the weight anymore 1
pogi Posted August 6, 2015 Posted August 6, 2015 But specifically how do you feel the atonement provides strength as we slog through the day to day? Is it merely in hope for the better future or can the day to day be changed? In what ways can it be changed? What part of the Savior's sacrifice to pay for sin has anything to do with making going to work day in and day out, paying bills, doing housework, dealing with life etc any easier? How can that portion of "the curse" be affected? Specifically, I think it is all about perspective. When we come unto the Lord, he changes our heart. With a new heart comes new perspective. That improved perspective either helps us to better cope with our current circumstance by giving it a deeper meaning and context, helping us to approach it with a new motivation and insight. Or, the new perspective gives us the courage to make the changes needed in our life to find true happiness, whether that means changing jobs and following your passion and talents, or by prioritizing your day and life, allowing you to declutter your schedule of unnecessary busy-work. Other times, he simply blesses us with peace to endure. Simply knowing that he is aware of our struggles and wants us to trust him and keep walking, changes everything and gives us the strength and hope to endure. The key is learning how to come unto Him, and humbly renewing that effort every day. We have to lay down our lives in order to find it. We have to let go of our methods and vision in exchange for his.
janderich Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 But specifically how do you feel the atonement provides strength as we slog through the day to day? Is it merely in hope for the better future or can the day to day be changed? In what ways can it be changed? What part of the Savior's sacrifice to pay for sin has anything to do with making going to work day in and day out, paying bills, doing housework, dealing with life etc any easier? How can that portion of "the curse" be affected?Christ very rarely changes the outcomes of the day. This is not the problem anyway. Our problem has to do with our mortal mind. If you are like most people almost every moment of every day your mind is judging how you feel and how circumstances should change to make you happy. It is analyzing and recalling past moments and projecting concerns into the future which causes fear and anxiety. Take a moment and just watch you mind work. Such fear and worry is driven by the adversary. But the Lord presents the solution, "Look unto me in every thought, doubt not fear not." (D&C 6: 36) When I plead with him to help me see clearly, to accept his will, and face the day ahead. That is exactly what happens. My worries start to fade away because I see them in the right light. I see that he is guiding my steps moment to moment. I see that most of my fears are based on what might happen, not what actually does happen. When we live in the moment and lose the constant chatter in our head we will feel a deep peace. And frankly, we should have known it all along. For he says, "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more important than food, and the body more important than clothes? ...And why do you worry about clothes? See how the lilies of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. Yet I tell you that now even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you, O you of little faith? ...Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own. (Matt 6:25-34 NIV)
The Nehor Posted August 7, 2015 Posted August 7, 2015 Quoted for truth. I love the Serenity Prayer: "God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference." (I struggle to know what I can and should strive to change ... not within myself; that's pretty easy to figure out, since there are so many such things ... but with regard to life circumstances. Whatever burdens remain, I know Christ will be with me ... even if, sometimes, I only realize in retrospect that He has been. I prefer this adaptation of the Serenity Prayer:God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those I had to kill because they ticked me off. 1
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