The Family Of God

[Ahab]

I think you've conflated accepting Christ as our Father and our example, and being willing to keep his commandments (which is the covenant we make at baptism); with the sealing relationship that exists between those who have been sealed up unto eternal life by the Holy Spirit of Promise.

A covenant relationship does not necessarily equal sealed, but leads to it.

I'd guess we also have different ideas about when we are sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Do you believe you have already received his promise that you will receive eternal life or do you only have hope that he will promise that to you someday?

[Jeanne]

Just a question for the more knowledgeable here..in the LDS faith, do you believe that though not sealed, we will be able to know our spouses and at least be friends?

[JLHPROF]

Just a question for the more knowledgeable here..in the LDS faith, do you believe that though not sealed, we will be able to know our spouses and at least be friends?

 

That is a very good question.

I think it's pure speculation to say the genders will be kept separate if not sealed (all though the temple seems to represent that possibility).

If they aren't separate I see no reason they wouldn't be able to associate with one another.  But I don't believe marital relations would even be a possibility.

 

For once, I don't think this has been revealed beyond extended reasoning and speculation.

[ksfisher]

I'd guess we also have different ideas about when we are sealed by the Holy Spirit.

Do you believe you have already received his promise that you will receive eternal life or do you only have hope that he will promise that to you someday?

 

Christ has promised all that they will receive eternal life, conditioned upon their obedience to the covenants and ordinances of the gospel.

[Ahab]

Just a question for the more knowledgeable here..in the LDS faith, do you believe that though not sealed, we will be able to know our spouses and at least be friends?

Yes, and I also believe that the reason those who are not sealed to those who were once their spouses won't be sealed to them will be because they refused to be sealed to them, possibly because they didn't believe there was such a thing as marriage in heaven, even though they would have been told there would be.

Like my parents, for example, who don't accept this so-called "Mormon" concept of marriage. They are familiar with the idea and they just refuse to believe it, and if they don't change their mind later they won't be. And as you may know, people changing their minds is not as easy as some might think it should be.

[JLHPROF]

I also believe that the reason those who are not sealed to those who were once their spouses won't be sealed to them will be because they refused to be sealed to them

 

This is reason # 1.

Reason # 2 is that even though they accepted sealing (eternal marriage/family) they refused to live on of the requirements for that blessing.  Not that they refused to be sealed, but that they refused to keep the laws and commandments required for sealing.

 

We can believe in the temple and the endowment and desire greatly to receive it.  But if we don't fulfill the requirements to enter a temple we aren't getting that blessing.

Edited March 31, 2015 by JLHPROF

[Jeanne]

Thanks for the replies..I appreciate your thoughts.  I just wanted Shane to recognize me and at least the both of us be friends..I want to share my own earthly experience with him about our kids and things pertaining to my changes in spirituality.  My youngest brother who says he talks to our deceased mother, informed me many years ago that Shane had accepted the gospel in the spirit world.  I have asked the Lord for direction since and find no presence there.  Actually, after trying hard  to be worthy of the Temple and to be sealed, things went downhill...others of my family and his family have let me know that perhaps I am just no longer worthy of him anyway.

Edited March 31, 2015 by Jeanne

[JLHPROF]

others of my family and his family have let me know that perhaps I am just no longer worthy of him anyway.

 

Sometimes we "saints" can be thoroughly unpleasant.  Sad attitude.

We will have a 1000 year millennial reign with Christ on earth and tons of temple work with visitors from the other side of the veil providing information to fix all the mess we have made and put in order the family of God for all eternity and seal it into the pattern as was planned.

And the more I read about peoples situations the more grateful I am for this.

 

Brigham Young's vision of Joseph Smith gives me much hope.  The prophet told him:

 

Tell the Brethren if they will follow the Spirit of the Lord they will go right. Be sure to tell the people to keep the Spirit of the Lord; and if they will, they will find themselves just as they were organized by our Father in Heaven before they came into the world. Our Father in Heaven organized the human family, but they are all disorganized in great confusion.

Joseph then showed me the pattern, how they were in the beginning. This I cannot describe but I saw it, and saw when the Priesthood had been taken from the earth, and how it must be joined together, so that perfect chain from Father Adam to his latest posterity.

Edited March 31, 2015 by JLHPROF

[Mormonmaniac]

Just a question for the more knowledgeable here..in the LDS faith, do you believe that though not sealed, we will be able to know our spouses and at least be friends?

I believe everyone will be given the opportunity to be with a spouse in eternity in the next life. If we choose to be sealed in the next life nothing will prevent us from being sealed other than our own failure then to do such. This life gets too mucked up to say it all must be done here in mortality.

[Ahab]

I believe everyone will be given the opportunity to be with a spouse in eternity in the next life. If we choose to be sealed in the next life nothing will prevent us from being sealed other than our own failure then to do such. This life gets too mucked up to say it all must be done here in mortality.

Here in mortality = true.

Our entire mortal estate will be here, on this planet, and it is here that all of the work must be done. And the mortal estate includes all of the time we are subject to mortality, whether it's the time our eternal spirits are connected to our mortal bodies or the time our eternal spirits are separated from them.