Dear Evangelical Friends: Can A Mormon Be A Christian?

[Vance]

If that were true, then LDS doctrine and the NT would agree.

It does.

 

Your assertion is that he's still in hell (the bad side), if I understand the LDS position correctly.

There is nothing in the Bible to indicate otherwise. What happened to your "sola scriptura"?

 

. . . The Biblical evidence for this is zero.

The Bible evidence that he is out of hell is zero.

 

My observation is that David was a prophet, and a man after God's own heart,

Key word being "was"

 

. . . who was forgiven,

Zero Bible evidence for that too.

 

. . . just as we all are if we seek his forgiveness.

Not if we, knowing as David knew the Lord and the truth, turn away from him to commit adultery and murder.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

 

Do I have any evidence to contradict that view? No.

Nor do you have evidence that David was forgiven.

 

Does scripture indicate otherwise? No.

Nor does it support your view.

 

So why does the LDS think that David is in Hell (Gehenna)?

Because the Bible indicates so, as has been shown to you.

 

Where is the Biblical evidence that his sins shouldn't be forgiven?

See above.

 

The LDS view seems to me to be the opposite of a merciful God?

LOL!!!!

So, a God that sends David to hell for adultery and murder is less merciful than the God that sends billions of people to hell simply because they never had an opportunity to hear about and accept Christ?

LOL!!!!

Edited October 9, 2014 by Vance

[Storm Rider]

Paul was a Hebrew of Hebrews, a monotheist- one God not a plurality of gods as in Mormonism (polytheism).

 

This is always disheartening when I read this type of sheer hypocrisy.  Mormons - Latter-day Saints - are as much polytheist as you are.  I will say this once; there is not need for repetition; it is the doctrine of the Church and of Jesus Christ - We believe in God the Eternal Father and in his Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.  If that is polytheism then you are a polytheist and teach polytheism.  

 

We teach that that they are each separate, distinct personages, beings, or entities; however, you may choose to think of it.  They are as much one as Jesus taught that they are one.  The doctrine of the Trinity teaches that they are separate and distinct, but it teaches that there is one essence.  The Church of Jesus Christ has no such concept of essence that mystically makes them one.  One thing is clear; they are not one as in one being - that goes against the doctrine of the Trinity - they are one only in this mystical essence.  

 

I believe that essence is only a philosophical construct in order to claim a form of monotheism - one that Islam and Judaism denies the logic or reality.  You may play word games, but attempting to label us polytheists only condemns yourself with the same label....unless you are a heretic and deny the doctrine of the Trinity. 

[teddyaware]

This is always disheartening when I read this type of sheer hypocrisy.  Mormons - Latter-day Saints - are as much polytheist as you are.  I will say this once; there is not need for repetition; it is the doctrine of the Church and of Jesus Christ - We believe in God the Eternal Father and in his Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.  If that is polytheism then you are a polytheist and teach polytheism.  

 

We teach that that they are each separate, distinct personages, beings, or entities; however, you may choose to think of it.  They are as much one as Jesus taught that they are one.  The doctrine of the Trinity teaches that they are separate and distinct, but it teaches that there is one essence.  The Church of Jesus Christ has no such concept of essence that mystically makes them one.  One thing is clear; they are not one as in one being - that goes against the doctrine of the Trinity - they are one only in this mystical essence.  

 

I believe that essence is only a philosophical construct in order to claim a form of monotheism - one that Islam and Judaism denies the logic or reality.  You may play word games, but attempting to label us polytheists only condemns yourself with the same label....unless you are a heretic and deny the doctrine of the Trinity.

Oh but there is an essence -- if that's what one wants to call it -- that powerfully contributes to making the Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost one. And that essence or substance, if you will, is the eternal uncreated Spirit of God. It is the same Spirit that makes the saints one with God and with each other, and it is the same uncreated divine Spirit of God that makes Christ one with the Father.

 

I don't understand why some of my fellow Latter-day Saints are ignorant on this point of doctrine, a doctrine that is fully out in the open and all over the face of the Standard Works? Could it be that some of the saints are just simply too loathe to admit to their non-LDS Christian brethren that there actually is an essence or substance (and in the case of the Latter-day Saints, this substance is a tangible but highly refined spiritual/material substance) that makes the Godhead one? Or is it that, for some unknown reason, this very obvious point of doctrine hasn't yet dawned upon them? 

15 And I, John, bear record, and lo, the heavens were opened, and the Holy Ghost descended upon him in the form of a dove, and sat upon him, and there came a voice out of heaven saying: This is my beloved Son.

16 And I, John, bear record that he received a fulness of the glory of the Father;

17 And he received all power, both in heaven and on earth, and the glory of the Father was with him, for he dwelt in him (not literally but by the power of the indwelling Spirit of God). (D&C 93)

“The Father and the Son possess the same mind, the same wisdom, glory, power, and fulness—filling all in all. The Son, being filled with the fulness of the mind, glory, and power, or in other words, the spirit, glory, and power, of the Father, possesses all knowledge and glory." (Lectures on Faith 5)

14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? (Hebrews 5)

8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.

9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness (the Spirit of God) above thy fellows. (Hebrews 1)

13 The light which is in all things (including God), which giveth life to all things (including God), which is the law by which all things are governed, even the power of God who sitteth upon his throne, who is in the bosom of eternity, who is in the midst of all things. (D&C 88)

Edited October 9, 2014 by teddyaware

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Paul was a Hebrew of Hebrews, a monotheist- one God not a plurality of gods as in Mormonism (polytheism).

Actually Paul believed in more than one God. So do we. The bible is not monotheistic. IF you said that word to Paul, he would not even know what you were talking about. Those 3 Gods make up the God head. They are one God not in number but in purpose. They all share in the divine. I used to get caught up in the "monotheistic" debate. Then I realized something. From certain senses there is only one God in other senses there are 3.

[Flyonthewall]

If that were true, then LDS doctrine and the NT would agree.

Your assertion is that he's still in hell (the bad side), if I understand the LDS position correctly. The Biblical evidence for this is zero.

My observation is that David was a prophet, and a man after God's own heart, who was forgiven, just as we all are if we seek his forgiveness. Do I have any evidence to contradict that view? No. Does scripture indicate otherwise? No. So why does the LDS think that David is in Hell (Gehenna)? Where is the Biblical evidence that his sins shouldn't be forgiven? The LDS view seems to me to be the opposite of a merciful God?

Sheol is the Abode of the dead. Not the "good side" or "bad side" but both. The entirety of the abode of the dead.

This is where the spirits of those who die go to await the final judgment.

While there you are either in "paradise" or "spirit prison". My personal belief is - which it is is more of a state of mind than a physical place. Two individuals can be side by side there and one be in paradise, the other in prison.

Those who were disobedient or wicked would be racked with the torment of their own actions. Those who were obedient or good, would be at rest from all cares, or be called to minister/preach the gospel to those that had never heard it.

David was a prophet, and highly favored of the Lord...but he did covet someone else's wife, committed adultery with her, then had her husband killed so he could have her as his own. It is because of his standing with the Lord that he could be a son of perdition, and because of his repentance that he is not. When death AND hell give up the dead, as described in Revelation, David too, will come forth, be resurrected and receive his judgment from God and his inheritance of glory.

Edited October 9, 2014 by Flyonthewall

[coolrok7]

For all, see 2 Samuel 12 for David'sin being forgiven but still suffering the consequences for his sin. God used Nathan to convict him that he had greatly sinned.

Also sheol is not the same as gehenna.

1 Corinthians 8 is where Paul in the context of discussing idols states gods many and lords many which in that context is not teaching what Mormons claim.

No, I'm not a polytheist.

[Vance]

For all, see 2 Samuel 12 for David'sin being forgiven but still suffering the consequences for his sin. God used Nathan to convict him that he had greatly sinned.

Sorry, but you are reading into it something that is NOT there.

It does not express or imply that the sin was forgiven.

 

1 Corinthians 8 is where Paul in the context of discussing idols states gods many and lords many which in that context is not teaching what Mormons claim.

You are missing something that is there.

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

So, you are claiming that these other gods that are in heaven are not real? So Paul lied to us?

Then why are they in heaven? How could they be in heaven?

Is this another incidence where you don't believe what it says so you are going to tell us it doesn't mean what it says?

 

No, I'm not a polytheist.

You do know that the "tri" in trinity means three, right? That alone makes you as much a polytheist as any Mormon. Edited October 9, 2014 by Vance

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Sorry, but you are reading into it something that is NOT there.

It does not express or imply that the sin was forgiven.

 

You are missing something that is there.

5 For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)

So, you are claiming that these other gods that are in heaven are not real? So Paul lied to us?

Then why are they in heaven? How could they be in heaven?

Is this another incidence where you don't believe what it says so you are going to tell us it doesn't mean what it says?

 

You do know that the "tri" in trinity means three, right? That alone makes you as much a polytheist as any Mormon.

So false gods or Idols are in heaven. Paul's words only make sense if he was talking about real gods.

[danielwoods]

Sheol is the Abode of the dead. Not the "good side" or "bad side" but both. The entirety of the abode of the dead.

This is where the spirits of those who die go to await the final judgment.

While there you are either in "paradise" or "spirit prison". My personal belief is - which it is is more of a state of mind than a physical place. Two individuals can be side by side there and one be in paradise, the other in prison.

Those who were disobedient or wicked would be racked with the torment of their own actions. Those who were obedient or good, would be at rest from all cares, or be called to minister/preach the gospel to those that had never heard it.

We learn from Jesus that there were two sides to Sheol, in the story of Lazarus and the Rich man.

In Peter we learn that those on the good side, went with Jesus.

There is no reference in the NT to ministering the gospel to those who hadn't heard it. There are reference to the opposite, that after death is the judgement.

David was a prophet, and highly favored of the Lord...but he did covet someone else's wife, committed adultery with her, then had her husband killed so he could have her as his own. It is because of his standing with the Lord that he could be a son of perdition, and because of his repentance that he is not. When death AND hell give up the dead, as described in Revelation, David too, will come forth, be resurrected and receive his judgment from God and his inheritance of glory.

1 Kings 2:10 states that, "10 Then David rested with his ancestors..." indicating that he joined them. If the LDS teaching is correct, then his ancestors must also be punished for some reason.

[danielwoods]

So false gods or Idols are in heaven. Paul's words only make sense if he was talking about real gods.

there are many false gods, but only one true God.

Jn. 17:3

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

[Flyonthewall]

We learn from Jesus that there were two sides to Sheol, in the story of Lazarus and the Rich man.

In Peter we learn that those on the good side, went with Jesus.

There is no reference in the NT to ministering the gospel to those who hadn't heard it. There are reference to the opposite, that after death is the judgement.

John 5:24 - 28

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Do explain how the dead will hear the word(gospel) of the Son of God if it is not preached?

1 Kings 2:10 states that, "10 Then David rested with his ancestors..." indicating that he joined them. If the LDS teaching is correct, then his ancestors must also be punished for some reason.

David rested with his ancestors merely means he was buried with them - laid to rest in a family tomb.

Where someone is buried has no indication on their post-mortal status.

Your conclusion has nothing to do with LDS teachings.

[Flyonthewall]

there are many false gods, but only one true God.

Jn. 17:3

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

Just out of curiosity, how does this work in your belief system? The only true God is identified by Jesus, but Jesus is not Him...?

[Storm Rider]

Actually Paul believed in more than one God. So do we. The bible is not monotheistic. IF you said that word to Paul, he would not even know what you were talking about. Those 3 Gods make up the God head. They are one God not in number but in purpose. They all share in the divine. I used to get caught up in the "monotheistic" debate. Then I realized something. From certain senses there is only one God in other senses there are 3.

 

Agreed. In this context it is acceptable to call LDS polytheists.  However, when I read an accusation from an Evangelist it is used as a slur and is most often used in ignorance.  Generally I find they have no, or limited, understanding of the doctrine of the Trinity. They most often explain a type of Modalism.  

 

Then I will hear the accusation that we are Henotheists, but that is not accurate either. There is no pantheon of gods for us to choose one to worship - we pray and worship the same God that Jesus prayed and worshiped. 

[coolrok7]

The true Biblical God, in Genesis, is attributed with our being here "in the beginning God".

Another in the beginning is the opening of

John 1:1 where it identifies one of the Godhead in the person of Jesus.

There is a distinction to be made between those of the God head and other created beings that needs to be discerned which I believe Mormons confuse some of the time this topic being one of them concerning God and gods.

[danielwoods]

John 5:24 - 28

24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.

25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.

26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;

27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

Do explain how the dead will hear the word(gospel) of the Son of God if it is not preached?

This passage has a classic double meaning. Notice first Jesus is mentioning those who believe in him (at that time) who have passed from death to life. Then at the same time he's talking about the ressurection. The verse you didn't include explains that, verse 29. 

 "28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."

 

Notice there is no mention of those hearing his voice and repenting, they rise to live or be condemned. Daniel 12:3 says the same thing: "2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

 

David rested with his ancestors merely means he was buried with them - laid to rest in a family tomb.

Where someone is buried has no indication on their post-mortal status.

Your conclusion has nothing to do with LDS teachings.

 

Actually the statement is in two parts: "¹⁰ Then David rested with his ancestors and was buried in the City of David."

 

Notice the first statement is what happened to his soul, and then what happened to his body (burial). IF the LDS position was correct it wouldn't have the words "Rested with his ancestors." Two points. The idea of entering into God's "rest" is the opposite of punishment. Second, "with" his ancestors indicates fellowship which wouldn't happen if he went to the bad side of Sheol. 

 

There is a third point as well, found in verse 4, "⁴ and that the Lord may keep his promise to me: ‘If your descendants watch how they live, and if they walk faithfully before me with all their heart and soul, you will never fail to have a successor on the throne of Israel.’

 

Notice that David says this to Solomon his successor. If David didn't walk faithfully before God, then he wouldn't have a successor on the throne of Israel. Based on this verse alone, David did walk faithfully and Israel was rewarded for it. 

 

The conclusion that David was punished in Sheol is not taught by any Jewish sources, nor Christian, or anyone else that I'm aware of, only the LDS. 

 

 

Just out of curiosity, how does this work in your belief system? The only true God is identified by Jesus, but Jesus is not Him...?

I'm curious how it works in yours as well.

There is only one true God. Hear O'Israel there is only one Lord. The nature of God is triune. Three persons in one God. How this works is a mystery.

[coolrok7]

Joseph's plurality of Gods teaching is not in line with the Biblical God. The capital G in our English translations is always capitalized and is not plural. The lower case g is where you will find gods. The term Elohim is translated God/gods depending on W/hom is being identified.

In the Godhead in the New Testament in Matthew 28 where the baptism command is given by Jesus, this is where Jesus affirms we are baptized in the name of God.

In Jesus' baptism, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all identified so the Chritian doctrine of God is to be understood as one God as in the Hebrew Schema, "Hear o Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one referred to by Jesus in the New Testament.

Edited October 10, 2014 by coolrok7

[Anakin7]

         These type of accusations/criticisms have been answered/responded to adinfinentum. These statements are not fruitfull, it would be better if you were to ask why we believe Biblicaly and in Biblical Historic context the way we interpet the text. This is a discussion board not a come on in and use the Biff Tannon approach to criticize us about those things that are sacred to us. We do not believe in the god of the philosophers/theologians but of the Anchient Prophets and Apostles. Which model/form of God/trinity are we to adhere to - Western/Eastern/Athanasion/Augustinian/Economic/Essential/Bultman/Social ?.  Please tell us !.

 

In His Debt/Grace

       Anakin7

Edited October 10, 2014 by Anakin7

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

there are many false gods, but only one true God.

Jn. 17:3

3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

I asked you if these false gods are in heaven.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Just out of curiosity, how does this work in your belief system? The only true God is identified by Jesus, but Jesus is not Him...?

Great point.

[Flyonthewall]

This passage has a classic double meaning. Notice first Jesus is mentioning those who believe in him (at that time) who have passed from death to life. Then at the same time he's talking about the ressurection. The verse you didn't include explains that, verse 29. 

 "28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29 and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned."

 

Notice there is no mention of those hearing his voice and repenting, they rise to live or be condemned. Daniel 12:3 says the same thing: "2 Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."

I agree there is a double meaning, but not the one you see. The "dead" can refer to those that are spiritually dead - that is separated from God. But there is no getting around the part where it says "all those who are in their graves will hear his voice.

Now, if we look at verse 24, that lays the groundwork of who will not come into condemnation, and who will pass from death into life.

Now let me ask you, how can anyone who was already dead and buried have heard "His word and believe in him who sent me?"

I will tell you it is answered in verse 28 - All those in the grave, or in other words, the abode of the dead, will hear His voice. His word will be preached. That is when they will have the opportunity to accept or reject the gospel. Then when the resurrection comes all will have had the opportunity to Hear the Word of God and have no excuse.

You say: "Notice there is no mention of those hearing his voice and repenting,", but it is right there is the scriptures, plain as day.

 

 

 

 

Actually the statement is in two parts: "¹⁰ Then David rested with his ancestors and was buried in the City of David."

 

Notice the first statement is what happened to his soul, and then what happened to his body (burial). IF the LDS position was correct it wouldn't have the words "Rested with his ancestors." Two points. The idea of entering into God's "rest" is the opposite of punishment. Second, "with" his ancestors indicates fellowship which wouldn't happen if he went to the bad side of Sheol.

Um... no. The first part does not have anything to do with his soul, but only that he died - it is a euphemism for death. The second part simply states he was buried.

 

 

 

There is a third point as well, found in verse 4, "⁴ and that the Lord may keep his promise to me: ‘If your descendants watch how they live, and if they walk faithfully before me with all their heart and soul, you will never fail to have a successor on the throne of Israel.’ Notice that David says this to Solomon his successor. If David didn't walk faithfully before God, then he wouldn't have a successor on the throne of Israel. Based on this verse alone, David did walk faithfully and Israel was rewarded for it.

Except that David was not always faithful. He sinned very grievous sins. As a result verses 8-11 describe not a reward, but punishments from God for his actions.

Now don't get me wrong, David was a very exceptional king, hand picked by God, his reign was a golden age of Israel and his accomplishments were great. But as a result of his sins, he suffered personally.

 

 

 

The conclusion that David was punished in Sheol is not taught by any Jewish sources, nor Christian, or anyone else that I'm aware of, only the LDS.

In Psalm 86:13 David writes that his soul is delivered from the "lowest hell". If "hell" is sheol, then what would you think is the "lowest sheol".... paradise or prison?

 

 

 

 

I'm curious how it works in yours as well.

There is only one true God. Hear O'Israel there is only one Lord. The nature of God is triune. Three persons in one God. How this works is a mystery.

God the Father is the Supreme Being over all. Jesus Christ is His Son, and is divine, but does not do His own will, but the will of the Father. Jesus took great care to distinguish Himself from the Father, and made it clear that He does the works of the Father. It is by doing the works and the will of the Father that they are one.

Everything Jesus did was to glorify the Father, not Himself. And in return the Father would glorify the Son.

To us, there is no mystery in how they are one.

Edited to add:

The Father is the one true God. This thing is certain: no one will ever ascend above Him; no one will ever replace Him. Nor will anything ever change the relationship that we, His literal offspring, have with Him. He is Eloheim, the Father. He is God. Of Him there is only one. We revere our Father and our God; we worship Him.

There is only one Christ, one Redeemer. We accept the divinity of the Only Begotten Son of God in the flesh.

Edited October 10, 2014 by Flyonthewall

[Flyonthewall]

Joseph's plurality of Gods teaching is not in line with the Biblical God. The capital G in our English translations is always capitalized and is not plural. The lower case g is where you will find gods. The term Elohim is translated God/gods depending on W/hom is being identified.

In the Godhead in the New Testament in Matthew 28 where the baptism command is given by Jesus, this is where Jesus affirms we are baptized in the name of God.

In Jesus' baptism, the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all identified so the Chritian doctrine of God is to be understood as one God as in the Hebrew Schema, "Hear o Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one referred to by Jesus in the New Testament.

Anyone who believes and teaches of God the Father, and accepts the divinity of Christ, and of the Holy Ghost, teaches a plurality of Gods.

The best you an say is "Nu uh", because you simply do not know - it is a mystery.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Anyone who believes and teaches of God the Father, and accepts the divinity of Christ, and of the Holy Ghost, teaches a plurality of Gods.

The best you an say is "Nu uh", because you simply do not know - it is a mystery.

Yeah, it is really not that compelling. I mean, if it works for you that is fine. But to come here and debate us and then use it, that is a different story.

[thesometimesaint]

The true Biblical God, in Genesis, is attributed with our being here "in the beginning God".

Another in the beginning is the opening of

John 1:1 where it identifies one of the Godhead in the person of Jesus.

There is a distinction to be made between those of the God head and other created beings that needs to be discerned which I believe Mormons confuse some of the time this topic being one of them concerning God and gods.

 

In Genesis it says let "us" make mankind in "our" image, after "our" likeness. It is counter logical to claim "us" and "our" is in reference to one individual.

 

The Godhead as refer to in the Christian Bible is three distinct individuals that act as one.

Edited October 10, 2014 by thesometimesaint

[coolrok7]

Anakin7, again, Evangelicals were asked to answer the thread question. Those who have responded have been giving their answers on both sides of the issue.

Mormonism gives it's views of what others believe as contrasted with their critical views of others.

You're repeated criticisms of me is your point of view to which you're entitled.

I'm responding in light of the thread question.

While I don't necessarily mind trying to answer you it does get a bit tedious when I've basically answered most of what you keep bringing up.

The Bilal teaching on the nature of God is the view I hold to, one God three Identified in the Godhead, not a plurality of Gods. You will not find Gods plural but God singular even though Elohim had a plural ending in the Hebrew.

[thesometimesaint]

Anakin7, again, Evangelicals were asked to answer the thread question. Those who have responded have been giving their answers on both sides of the issue.

Mormonism gives it's views of what others believe as contrasted with their critical views of others.

You're repeated criticisms of me is your point of view to which you're entitled.

I'm responding in light of the thread question.

While I don't necessarily mind trying to answer you it does get a bit tedious when I've basically answered most of what you keep bringing up.

The Bilal teaching on the nature of God is the view I hold to, one God three Identified in the Godhead, not a plurality of Gods. You will not find Gods plural but God singular even though Elohim had a plural ending in the Hebrew.

 

Mormons are Christians and Christians are polytheistic unlike Muslims and modern day Jews. Moreover "us" and "our" are plural nouns.