A Stroll Through Exmormon.Com

[Mustard]

After that journey you'd think I would throw my hands up. Looks like I am going to need some intense deprogramming to get out of this church.

[Duncan]

After that journey you'd think I would throw my hands up. Looks like I am going to need some intense deprogramming to get out of this church.

as much as I whine and complain about some things I think about the dialogue that Jesus has with the Apostles at the end of John 6

66 ¶From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

Edited April 13, 2013 by Duncan

[Tacenda]

as much as I whine and complain about some things I think about the dialogue that Jesus has with the Apostles at the end of John 6

66 ¶From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him.

67 Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away?

68 Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.

Yes, but do you think they're(people like mustard) leaving the gospel ofJC too? Edited April 13, 2013 by Tacenda

[Duncan]

Yes, but do you think they're(people like mustard) leaving the gospel ofJC too?

I am not familair with mustard's journey but I read his post as being sarcastic! although I could be wrongo bongo

[Kenngo1969]

No, no! Bongo is never wrongo! I know you were just goin' for the rhyme, but never let me see you put those two words together again ... Got it?

[Nathair/|\]

No, no! Bongo is never wrongo! I know you were just goin' for the rhyme, but never let me see you put those two words together again ... Got it?

I don't think Dunc. was saying Bongo is wrong. I think he was telling Bongo that he (Duncan) was wrong and forgot the comma.

[canard78]

No, no! Bongo is never wrongo! I know you were just goin' for the rhyme, but never let me see you put those two words together again ... Got it?

I'd say you're wrongo bongo kenngo

[Saints Alive]

After that journey you'd think I would throw my hands up. Looks like I am going to need some intense deprogramming to get out of this church.

It can be an interesting read. If anything ex mormon .com has kept me in the church. If those are the type of people who leave I feel good about staying. It's mostly jaded comments and hyperbole.

[canard78]

It can be an interesting read. If anything ex mormon .com has kept me in the church. If those are the type of people who leave I feel good about staying. It's mostly jaded comments and hyperbole.

What's the phrase about dog returning to his vomit...

One thing I admire about my brother and wife is that they've emotionally moved on. They're happy with their new life choices and opportunities.

[EllenMaksoud]

After that journey you'd think I would throw my hands up. Looks like I am going to need some intense deprogramming to get out of this church.

If you are trying to find validation for your own desires to get out from under the authority of Heavenly Father, what can I say? When I was still Muslim and the gospel message was beginning to take hold, I purposely went to Youtube to look up Ex-Mormon videos. I examined their claims critically to see why they made the statements that they made. I felt that most of the time they were trying to somehow invalidate the message so they could discount it. In my own research, In most cases, I found their reasoning flawed, and their conclusions faulty. In fact the hateful, angry and nasty way of saying things drove me toward the church, not away.

[Avatar4321]

After that journey you'd think I would throw my hands up. Looks like I am going to need some intense deprogramming to get out of this church.

You could just stay. We are more than happy to have you around.

[canard78]

You could just stay. We are more than happy to have you around.

I could be wrong as I don't know 'mustard' but I got the impression he was being sarcastic. As in 'is that the best you can throw at us, you'll need better than that.'

Irony's so hard to do on a message board.

But I might be wrong.

[Storm Rider]

That poor board is more a place for people to vent rather than a legitimate critique of the Church of Jesus Christ. I think that most people that would stumble upon it would observe the rather shrill attacks and question why there is so much emotion being used and such silly reactions. I have never understood the need for such or the need to create so much misinformation about a religion, any religion. We are disciples of Jesus Christ; we seek after all truth wherever it is found and claim it for ourselves; we believe that God speaks today and can guide each of us in his chosen path for us; we accept that others are being lead by the Holy Ghost in the truths they have been given and are magnifying; we believe the Great Commission has real import in the lives of our members both young and old. The "x" people are really just a passing nuisance for a group that just wants to hear themselves complain and hear the constant echo.

[why me]

That poor board is more a place for people to vent rather than a legitimate critique of the Church of Jesus Christ. I think that most people that would stumble upon it would observe the rather shrill attacks and question why there is so much emotion being used and such silly reactions. I have never understood the need for such or the need to create so much misinformation about a religion, any religion. We are disciples of Jesus Christ; we seek after all truth wherever it is found and claim it for ourselves; we believe that God speaks today and can guide each of us in his chosen path for us; we accept that others are being lead by the Holy Ghost in the truths they have been given and are magnifying; we believe the Great Commission has real import in the lives of our members both young and old. The "x" people are really just a passing nuisance for a group that just wants to hear themselves complain and hear the constant echo.

However they are no different than the early saints who left at the time of Joseph Smith. They also had much hatred and anger, so much so, that they most likely found themselves among the mobs burning down mormon homes and destroying mormon property like printing presses. I cannot say that it would be any different today if we still had the mob mentality. Something stirs them up...but what could that be?

[Calm]

I could be wrong as I don't know 'mustard' but I got the impression he was being sarcastic. As in 'is that the best you can throw at us, you'll need better than that.'

Irony's so hard to do on a message board.

But I might be wrong.

I read it the same way...

Unfortunately mustard doesn't have any older posts around to get a better read on his style of posting.

[teddyaware]

I read it the same way...

Unfortunately mustard doesn't have any older posts around to get a better read on his style of posting.

Mustard is definitely being sarcastic. The point he's tring to get across is simply this: The ex-mormon site does such a poor job in it's attempt to "prove" the LDS Church isn't true, that if someone out there really wants to be convinced the Church isn't true he or she will have to look beyond the ex-mo site for help.

Edited April 15, 2013 by teddyaware

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

After that journey you'd think I would throw my hands up. Looks like I am going to need some intense deprogramming to get out of this church.

To late for me, wait I did not receive such programming as a child.

[Tacenda]

I'm not an ex-mo, but see how you might become an angry ex-mo. I try very hard not to become angry in my current condition, but see how it happens. People would never understand it until they've experienced it. I admit the side of me to obey everything that comes across the pulpit is now gone and I fear just a bit, that others will view my light diminishing. Yesterday, I attended a Southern Baptist church, it took several tries at various non LDS churches before I had the nerve to walk in. I sat through a sermon about that light, in 1st John chapter one. It was a full sermon on just a few verses! I was very light going out of there. The reason I went, is because I've been meaning to try out a few churches for a couple of years, yesterday was Stake Conference at a later time so I thought I'd try it. Then later went to Stake Conference, didn't feel as light afterwards. The whole of it was that we weren't doing enough. One stake leader was really harsh, I fear for those that take every admonition to heart and can't meet that expectation.

[Darren10]

After that journey you'd think I would throw my hands up. Looks like I am going to need some intense deprogramming to get out of this church.

If you have a computer virus in your testimony I'd be glad to help deprogram that. No charge!!!

[ERayR]

I'm not an ex-mo, but see how you might become an angry ex-mo. I try very hard not to become angry in my current condition, but see how it happens. People would never understand it until they've experienced it. I admit the side of me to obey everything that comes across the pulpit is now gone and I fear just a bit, that others will view my light diminishing. Yesterday, I attended a Southern Baptist church, it took several tries at various non LDS churches before I had the nerve to walk in. I sat through a sermon about that light, in 1st John chapter one. It was a full sermon on just a few verses! I was very light going out of there. The reason I went, is because I've been meaning to try out a few churches for a couple of years, yesterday was Stake Conference at a later time so I thought I'd try it. Then later went to Stake Conference, didn't feel as light afterwards. The whole of it was that we weren't doing enough. One stake leader was really harsh, I fear for those that take every admonition to heart and can't meet that expectation.

It really is a choice. "Choose ye this day. . . "

[Storm Rider]

I'm not an ex-mo, but see how you might become an angry ex-mo. I try very hard not to become angry in my current condition, but see how it happens. People would never understand it until they've experienced it. I admit the side of me to obey everything that comes across the pulpit is now gone and I fear just a bit, that others will view my light diminishing. Yesterday, I attended a Southern Baptist church, it took several tries at various non LDS churches before I had the nerve to walk in. I sat through a sermon about that light, in 1st John chapter one. It was a full sermon on just a few verses! I was very light going out of there. The reason I went, is because I've been meaning to try out a few churches for a couple of years, yesterday was Stake Conference at a later time so I thought I'd try it. Then later went to Stake Conference, didn't feel as light afterwards. The whole of it was that we weren't doing enough. One stake leader was really harsh, I fear for those that take every admonition to heart and can't meet that expectation.

I lived in Utah for a while and to me, I see a much wider variety of leadership styles than elsewhere. Some wards just give me the heeby-geebees. Then even as I write this I realize that I am pretty harsh on Utah Mormons. I would agree deal with a culture component that is not present in most of the mission field, but humans are everywhere and leaders do the best they can and still remain imperfect. I have a different experience than you T; having visited many Protestant churches in my youth it is not where I go for Light. If I am looking for the Light of Christ or the presence of the Holy Spirit, I go to hymns, the scriptures, etc. I do get it out of some meetings, but not all. That may something more about me than the meetings themselves.

[ERayR]

I'm not an ex-mo, but see how you might become an angry ex-mo. I try very hard not to become angry in my current condition, but see how it happens. People would never understand it until they've experienced it. I admit the side of me to obey everything that comes across the pulpit is now gone and I fear just a bit, that others will view my light diminishing. Yesterday, I attended a Southern Baptist church, it took several tries at various non LDS churches before I had the nerve to walk in. I sat through a sermon about that light, in 1st John chapter one. It was a full sermon on just a few verses! I was very light going out of there. The reason I went, is because I've been meaning to try out a few churches for a couple of years, yesterday was Stake Conference at a later time so I thought I'd try it. Then later went to Stake Conference, didn't feel as light afterwards. The whole of it was that we weren't doing enough. One stake leader was really harsh, I fear for those that take every admonition to heart and can't meet that expectation.

Make sure you are not mistaking charisma for light or the fascination of something different as truth.

[why me]

Then later went to Stake Conference, didn't feel as light afterwards. The whole of it was that we weren't doing enough. One stake leader was really harsh, I fear for those that take every admonition to heart and can't meet that expectation.

This is certainly a problem. I hated it when someone gives such a talk. I think that quite often they are out of touch with reality. People do not need to told such things. Rather, they need to be thanked for what they do and encouraged to be good human beings and treat each other with love, respect, dignity and kindness. They need to feel appreciated.

That being the case, I don't think that the early saints at the time of Paul had it easy either. People was also admonishing them to be better, and to be perfect. He knew the temptations of the pagans and their lifestyle and how this impacted on the minds of some saints.

[Tacenda]

I lived in Utah for a while and to me, I see a much wider variety of leadership styles than elsewhere. Some wards just give me the heeby-geebees. Then even as I write this I realize that I am pretty harsh on Utah Mormons. I would agree deal with a culture component that is not present in most of the mission field, but humans are everywhere and leaders do the best they can and still remain imperfect. I have a different experience than you T; having visited many Protestant churches in my youth it is not where I go for Light. If I am looking for the Light of Christ or the presence of the Holy Spirit, I go to hymns, the scriptures, etc. I do get it out of some meetings, but not all. That may something more about me than the meetings themselves.

I didn't go looking for light, maybe some comparisons is all. It was a sermon centered on God's light, or JC's, well they believe they're one in the same. I've only been to a Catholic church once in my youth. So really never experienced anything besides Mormonism, therefore the need to do this finally at 51! So many have had the opportunity to experience either on their missions, or are converts. I'm a big girl now and decided to make some decisions whether it looks bad or not. I will continue to go to my 1 pm block of church and sometimes visit other churches in the morning. This is a experiment to compare my religion to others, just like some of you have!

I think that the pastor was much like any Gospel Doctrine teacher at the LDS church, wasn't too charismatic or just for show. So that's good, I'm sure I'll see that elsewhere. The Stake Leader at Stake Conference was fairly new in his calling, maybe he'll mellow out soon.

[Kenngo1969]

I'd say you're wrongo bongo kenngo

Hey, that rhymes! Kewl!