I Wish The Canon Would Expand Just A Teeny Bit

[CASteinman]

Of course, I am not in charge of such things, but there are some works or documents that I wish were added to our canon. Three things that I wish were brought into the Scriptures:

1. Proclamation on the Family

2. The Living Christ

3. The King Follet Discourse (as perfected as possible).

[Wanderer7]

Agreed on the first two. I don't know whether I would consider KFD to be cannon, but I generally believe what's in it and I think everyone needs to read it.

[CASteinman]

None of them are canon now. I would like PoF and KFD to be in there because of attacks on the Family. I think these support the family a lot.

Plus, I think KFD helps people to get out of some ruts. The only problem? Its unfinished doctrine. It has some holes.

[Wanderer7]

The only problem? Its unfinished doctrine. It has some holes.

Yes. If only we had a recording. It's hard enough to make sermons cannon as it is, let alone when we only have what the scribes could catch. But it is extremely dense in its doctrine. I wish we spent time studying it more in church instead of 1 Nephi 3:7 again and again.

[Duncan]

man, you need to think big! Why not go for the 2/3 of the rest of the Book of Mormon or the 116 lost pages or the records of the lost tribes of Israel!

[CASteinman]

man, you need to think big! Why not go for the 2/3 of the rest of the Book of Mormon or the 116 lost pages or the records of the lost tribes of Israel!

Good point. But... I don't know where they are.

[Duncan]

Good point. But... I don't know where they are.

oh, well that's okay, I have them but I am kinda busy right now to get them from out under my bed but they'll be in SLC by conference time

Edited March 22, 2013 by Duncan

[thesometimesaint]

Of course, I am not in charge of such things, but there are some works or documents that I wish were added to our canon. Three things that I wish were brought into the Scriptures:

1. Proclamation on the Family

2. The Living Christ

3. The King Follet Discourse (as perfected as possible).

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1. I like to see more Scripture added before I'd include the PotF as Scripture.

2. No problem there.

3. Same as number 1.

[slamarwi]

I agree with Steinman. I would also like to add an "ASAP" to numbers 1 and 2.

[Lightbearer]

Yes to all three! I also have a feeling (I could be wrong) that the Proclaimation on the Family will become OD-3... maybe as soon as this conference (April 2013) I know it is already a true revelation and it is doctrinal because it is included in many manuals in use in the Church... so I say make it offical scripture!

[Saints Alive]

If they add the PoF how is the church going to justify gay marriage in the future?

[Duncan]

Yes to all three! I also have a feeling (I could be wrong) that the Proclaimation on the Family will become OD-3... maybe as soon as this conference (April 2013) I know it is already a true revelation and it is doctrinal because it is included in many manuals in use in the Church... so I say make it offical scripture!

How do you know it's revelation? There were lots of things mentioned in manuals that were taken out

[swfarnsworth]

Given how frequently the Living Christ cites scripture, including it in the D&C sounds redundant. I would be fine with adding the other two, though, but the Prophet/First Presidency/Apostles would probably need to revise and/or expand on the King Follett Discourse for complete accuracy and clarification. That doesn't necessarily mean having a complete transcript restored via revelation, just ensuring that the canonized text is correct in terms of doctrine, even if it's shorter than the original speech and not a perfect representation of what Joseph Smith originally said in the moment.

[Stroopwafel]

For my part, I wish we would finally receive some of those lost and/or yet-to-be-discovered scriptures. I have the impression that many members had great expectations for new scriptures to be revealed eventually (and not of the conference type "scriptures").

You know that it would be truly awesome. Methinks having truly new scriptures coming forth substantiating both the Bible and the Book of Mormon would certainly raise interest in the Church as it has never been before (Mr. Romney would pale in comparison!). But I think I may be dreaming in technicolor...

[CASteinman]

1. I like to see more Scripture added before I'd include the PotF as Scripture.

That is a little confusing. I am guessing you are saying you have other things you want to see as scripture first. What qualifying (that is FP or 12 approved statements or documents) are you thinking of?

[Saints Alive]

For my part, I wish we would finally receive some of those lost and/or yet-to-be-discovered scriptures. I have the impression that many members had great expectations for new scriptures to be revealed eventually (and not of the conference type "scriptures").

You know that it would be truly awesome. Methinks having truly new scriptures coming forth substantiating both the Bible and the Book of Mormon would certainly raise interest in the Church as it has never been before (Mr. Romney would pale in comparison!). But I think I may be dreaming in technicolor...

I'd say the second coming is more likely.

[Buzzard]

If they add the PoF how is the church going to justify gay marriage in the future?

It actually gives us a scriptural leg to rely on when the forces of secularism push to get us on the "right" side of history instead of the right hand of God.

[Rivers]

oh, well that's okay, I have them but I am kinda busy right now to get them from out under my bed but they'll be in SLC by conference time

I just thought of an idea for a great Dan Brown-like novel.

[thesometimesaint]

That is a little confusing. I am guessing you are saying you have other things you want to see as scripture first. What qualifying (that is FP or 12 approved statements or documents) are you thinking of?

Sorry if that was confusing. I'll try to clarify. Within the PotF there is reference to Heavenly Parents. I think that is a fair assumption to make, but I don't see enough Scriptural underpinnings to support that assumption. We have an open canon so I believe we should add more to our D&C to underpin it, then I'm fine with adding the PotF.

[changed]

Yes to all three! I also have a feeling (I could be wrong) that the Proclaimation on the Family will become OD-3... maybe as soon as this conference (April 2013)

I think if they had plans on including it for this conference, they would have postponed coming out with the new edition of the scriptures (with new headers etc. etc.) until after conference... I could be wrong though.

[changed]

For my part, I wish we would finally receive some of those lost and/or yet-to-be-discovered scriptures. I have the impression that many members had great expectations for new scriptures to be revealed eventually (and not of the conference type "scriptures").

You know that it would be truly awesome. Methinks having truly new scriptures coming forth substantiating both the Bible and the Book of Mormon would certainly raise interest in the Church as it has never been before (Mr. Romney would pale in comparison!). But I think I may be dreaming in technicolor...

That would be cool, although I think that the second coming will probably be when we "officially" learn who the other tribes are. (Although I think we might be able to "unofficially" learn who they are through personal revelation before then)

Edited March 22, 2013 by changed

[CASteinman]

Sorry if that was confusing. I'll try to clarify. Within the PotF there is reference to Heavenly Parents. I think that is a fair assumption to make, but I don't see enough Scriptural underpinnings to support that assumption. We have an open canon so I believe we should add more to our D&C to underpin it, then I'm fine with adding the PotF.

Oh, Interesting. I would have never thought of that. I can't think of very many instances off the cuff, but I think that there are other revelations that don't have much underpinning and yet they went straight in. D&C 76 comes to mind.

I guess you are thinking that revelation must add to knowledge in much smaller increments. Though this does not seem like a huge leap.

[daz2]

I would be surprised if the PoF were canonized in the near future, or why that joint statement should be canonized in preference to say any the works mentioned in Elder McConkie's talk http://emp.byui.edu/marrottr/GenlAuthorities/Bible-SealedBook.pdf that in his judgment should be classed as scripture--Wentworth letter, lectures on faith, doctrinal expositions on the Father and the Son and on the origin of humankind.

I would also note that I see nothing in the PoF that directly (as distinct from by reasonable inference) even mentions same sex marriage or same sex civil unions or what rights should be extended to same sex individuals or couples.

[Damien the Leper]

I would like to see Sections 139-156 added. LDS are behind in the Revelation Game...

[rockpond]

Yes to all three! I also have a feeling (I could be wrong) that the Proclaimation on the Family will become OD-3... maybe as soon as this conference (April 2013) I know it is already a true revelation and it is doctrinal because it is included in many manuals in use in the Church... so I say make it offical scripture!

It's interesting to note that in his Oct 2010 Gen Con address, President Packer said of the PotF: "it qualifies according to the definition as a revelation" but then in his published remarks he changed it to "a guide", removing all reference to revelation.

Edited March 22, 2013 by rockpond