Justifying Hallucinations as "Reality"

[mfbukowski]

On 7/30/2017 at 3:17 PM, Honorentheos said:

Alternatively:

Our brains predict our sense of reality out of sense-stimuli and preconditioning. Everything we perceive as reality is a product of our own brain firing synaps.

Our brains create reality beyond just sense stimuli through this interpretive and even predictive process. For example, our brains take certain patterns and create the visual experience of seeing a human face. Tons of examples exist, including the way our brain creates the sensation of smooth eye travel out of the jerking point-to-point motion our eyes actually follow. Reality of our experience is an illusion that we create, beyond dispute.

This thread if revisited is a perfect example of pattern seeking and the creation of a brain primed to look for certain patterns.

There is a Lucifer among you faithful Mormons promising glory but not in the name of the Father but for his own satisfaction.  (hint: He's a solipsist that enjoys the games this kind of thread provides to advance his plan...)

I wanted to capture this before it disappears.

On one hand it seems you do not understand that our brains precisely did evolve to see certain patterns which will keep us alive and I would argue one of these is religion.  If you want to argue that do so with the anthropologists http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/15/weekinreview/12wade.html

The idea that God created us to seek him is not one I find alarming at all.

And I also wanted to capture you saying I am Lucifer.

Now THAT is REALLY out there.   Maybe time for some help there dude

[Honorentheos]

Why would it disappear? 

If a person believes in the LDS faith in a manner consistent with the prophets and leadership, your self proclaimed mission to whisper the doctrine of pragmatism mingling philosophy with scripture in the ears of the faithful to fulfill an act purely for your own glory certainly seems to align with a certain archetype. Don't blame me that things are the way they are.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Honorentheos

[mfbukowski]

18 minutes ago, Honorentheos said:

Why would it disappear? 

If a person believes in the LDS faith in a manner consistent with the prophets and leadership, your self proclaimed mission to whisper the doctrine of pragmatism mingling philosophy with scripture in the ears of the faithful to fulfill an act purely for your own glory certainly seems to align with a certain archetype. Don't blame me that things are the way they are.

And of course you are right

I have influenced all those guys like Givens and Hardy and Spackman  and Mason, Mike Ash, and the Maxwell Institute and half the scholars of Mormonism to take my position and carry the ball for me

Man I am just the most powerful person in Mormonism at this time - and all others who pretend to make up their own ideas paralleling mine are simply my minions.  In fact it is I who have started this entire thread of thought accepted by multiple publishing houses entirely by my own doing!!!  Greg Kofford Books?   Ha HA! They are my minions!

I am the greatest force in Mormon thought today!!!   All scholars are copying ME!!!!

BWWAAAAAHHHHHHHAAAAAA!!! 

dude get a grip.  Oh I meant amigo rock on.

[Honorentheos]

Silly rabbit, you make it seem like a nerve got touched there. 

Anywho, not to gloss over my summary but I think it made it clear if one primes ones mind to see Mormonism in the world one should not be surprised when they find it. What is sad is when they then interpret it as being real dog faces in the sky telling them cureloms were real as a result.

[mfbukowski]

4 minutes ago, Honorentheos said:

Silly rabbit, you make it seem like a nerve got touched there. 

Anywho, not to gloss over my summary but I think it made it clear if one primes ones mind to see Mormonism in the world one should not be surprised when they find it. What is sad is when they then interpret it as being real dog faces in the sky telling them cureloms were real as a result.

Heavy man

[Honorentheos]

You know, TED talks are heavy lifting but someone has to do it. Otherwise someone might come in and really try to toss up a bunch of dust and make something more out of it than was said. Not that you'd ever do that but someone might.