Bernard Gui Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Sister Gui and I have noticed a trend in our area for youth to be told to delay getting their patriarchal blessings until they are “ready.” What started out as encouraging kids to take the experience seriously rather than automatically getting them when they turned twelve has resulted in a culture that seems to make it presumptuous to want to get it before age 16 or so. We both consulted our blessings as young teens and made important life decisions based on them. We found that the blessings helped us be “ready” at crucial times when we needed to be ready, and are glad we had them for direction. My case, however, was very unusual: I received mine when I was seven. Has anyone else noticed a change in the way this unique and important LDS practice is being managed? 3 Link to comment
Popular Post Rain Posted February 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) I haven't noticed any difference. More so I think specific people talk about it differently. We always encouraged our children to prepare for it and get it when they were ready. One of my children was 18 when the child asked for it. Got a reccomend for it and never called for the interview. We found out later this child didn't have a great reason for it so we were ok with not getting it at that time. Another child was 15. This child was independent enough to not want us there. Then we had one child who prayed and fasted over it, came to us and said they were ready at age 11. Children are so different. I think that telling some to wait or get it now doesn't really account for the spiritual readiness differences. So if I saw what you are seeing I would speak up and share how I feel about this. Edited February 11, 2018 by Rain 6 Link to comment
bsjkki Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) I wanted my kids to receive theirs the year they entered high school. Many thought that was way too soon but I am grateful they were done. I got mine at 12. It helped me a lot during the teen years. Edited February 11, 2018 by bsjkki 3 Link to comment
USU78 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I got mine at 19, which was pretty typical for the time. My paternal grandfather was patriarch of another stake, so we got leave to have him do the deed. He died midway through. So glad he was still with us so I could have that honor. 2 Link to comment
JLHPROF Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I think the idea that we can only receive one needs to be reexamined. And any family patriarch has the right to bless his family as needed. Link to comment
Popular Post Duncan Posted February 11, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, USU78 said: I got mine at 19, which was pretty typical for the time. My paternal grandfather was patriarch of another stake, so we got leave to have him do the deed. He died midway through. So glad he was still with us so I could have that honor. he died midway through? as in he died giving you the blessing? i am just seeking clarification!! 6 Link to comment
Duncan Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: I think the idea that we can only receive one needs to be reexamined. And any family patriarch has the right to bless his family as needed. TBH I wouldn't mind another! I can't make heads or tails about mine 1 Link to comment
stemelbow Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: I think the idea that we can only receive one needs to be reexamined. And any family patriarch has the right to bless his family as needed. Yeah.. mine went irrelevant about a week after I got it, it felt like. Each time something came up in life it was opposite what the p blessiNg told me. Link to comment
Exiled Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 23 minutes ago, Duncan said: he died midway through? as in he died giving you the blessing? i am just seeking clarification!! Me too?! 1 Link to comment
Exiled Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 13 minutes ago, stemelbow said: Yeah.. mine went irrelevant about a week after I got it, it felt like. Each time something came up in life it was opposite what the p blessiNg told me. Mine was so generic that of course it became true or false, depending on one's point of view 2 Link to comment
Jeanne Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 37 minutes ago, USU78 said: I got mine at 19, which was pretty typical for the time. My paternal grandfather was patriarch of another stake, so we got leave to have him do the deed. He died midway through. So glad he was still with us so I could have that honor. That is nice...not a common opportunity to have it done by a grandfather..or any relative. I imagine he knew you well and that would have helped. 1 Link to comment
Jeanne Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 I thought mine at age 16 was really wonderful...then I looked at my best friends blessing...pretty much identical and I felt silly... 1 Link to comment
USU78 Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 Halfway through the mission. 2 Link to comment
Duncan Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 44 minutes ago, USU78 said: Halfway through the mission. FWIW in 1925, my Great Grandpa dropped dead arguing politics! 1 Link to comment
bsjkki Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) My daughter got two. The patriarch gave her a blessing. Tears were flowing. The spirit was strong. It was beautiful. Afterwards, they realized it had not been recorded. The button had not been pushed down. They did it again and it was not the same. It has always made me sad. Edited February 11, 2018 by bsjkki 1 Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted February 11, 2018 Share Posted February 11, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: Has anyone else noticed a change in the way this unique and important LDS practice is being managed? Nope. Whenever I've had the opportunity, I've encouraged youth to get them as soon as they genuinely want them. I was nearly 20 when I got mine, and I really wish I'd got it much earlier. Edited February 11, 2018 by Hamba Tuhan 1 Link to comment
USU78 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Duncan said: FWIW in 1925, my Great Grandpa dropped dead arguing politics! Canadians are like that. But what a way to go! 🤣 Edited February 12, 2018 by USU78 1 Link to comment
Five Solas Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I posted the question on the baptism thread, and I'll post it here as well. Isn't it a little curious a PB requires a higher standard than an LDS baptism? For 90+% of kids born into the LDS Church, they are essentially auto-dunked at age 8 after they repeat back some words their teachers tell them. That may be a little harsh, but it's certainly not miles from the truth. So what's all this then about being truly "ready" for a PB? A PB isn't an essential ordinance pertaining to LDS-style salvation. So by what logic does the higher standard make any sense? --Erik Link to comment
Hamba Tuhan Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, Five Solas said: So by what logic does the higher standard make any sense? The interview questions are exactly the same. 3 Link to comment
Duncan Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 10 minutes ago, USU78 said: Canadians are like that. But what a way to go! 🤣 Mumsie, many years later, met a lady who was a youngster at the time and she recalled coming home from school and seeing a group of men standing around the body, I would LOVE to know who he was arguing with and what about hahhaha!! 2 Link to comment
USU78 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 18 minutes ago, Duncan said: Mumsie, many years later, met a lady who was a youngster at the time and she recalled coming home from school and seeing a group of men standing around the body, I would LOVE to know who he was arguing with and what about hahhaha!! ... and who won ... 1 Link to comment
Duncan Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, USU78 said: ... and who won ... and that, yes! 1 Link to comment
Five Solas Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 17 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: The interview questions are exactly the same. Then what's the point/necessity of PB delay for additional preparation & readiness? Are you concerned the 8-year olds were just parroting back the words of their teachers when they qualified for LDS baptism? (A completely legitimate concern, IMO, if that's your answer to my question.) --Erik Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 5 hours ago, JLHPROF said: I think the idea that we can only receive one needs to be reexamined. And any family patriarch has the right to bless his family as needed. Becausevof my unusual circumstances (blessing at age 7), I got permission to get another when I was about 35, but never followed through. We encouraged our kids to get them in their early teens, but we didn’t force anything. I believe that it is good to honor their feelings and requests. 1 Link to comment
Bernard Gui Posted February 12, 2018 Author Share Posted February 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Duncan said: FWIW in 1925, my Great Grandpa dropped dead arguing politics! I’ve been in discussions wher Imwished that would happen. The phrase “drop dead” comes to mind. 1 Link to comment
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