Downvoting - what and why

[Dario_M]

1 minute ago, Calm said:

It is a joke.  JVW mentioned he did it because the opening post obviously needed it given the title and then I had to because it just seemed perfect and someone else feels the same, I guess.   

Malc knows I like his posts lots if he actually pays attention to rep points.  If he doesn’t pay attention, it won’t matter.   

Ooh in that case it's allright with me haha. I was a bit in shock when i saw al the downvotes. But if this is just a joke then it's all good. 😉

[Dario_M]

2 minutes ago, Calm said:

I will make it up for him later.   Bedtime now.

Good night. 🌌

[Malc]

3 hours ago, Calm said:

It is a joke.  JVW mentioned he did it because the opening post obviously needed it given the title and then I had to because it just seemed perfect and someone else feels the same, I guess.   

Malc knows I like his posts lots if he actually pays attention to rep points.  If he doesn’t pay attention, it won’t matter.   

Thanks, Calm.

I have to admit that I was disappointed when I saw the first downvote by JVM, but grinned when I read their explanation, and more so when others downvoted it. Thanks for joining in in yanking my chain 

ETA: I don't really care (much) about rep points - for example, what my total is - but I do check sometimes on who upvotes or downvotes my comments, especially if the person doesn't comment. 

Edited October 27, 2024 by Malc
add thoughts about rep points

[Malc]

3 hours ago, Dario_M said:

Ooh in that case it's allright with me haha. I was a bit in shock when i saw al the downvotes. But if this is just a joke then it's all good. 😉

Thanks, Dario, for your kind thoughts towards me. Yes, it's all good!

[Dario_M]

40 minutes ago, Malc said:

Thanks, Dario, for your kind thoughts towards me. Yes, it's all good!

I'm happy to read that. As long as this is a joke i don't see the harm of it right..

[Peacefully]

4 hours ago, Calm said:

It is a joke.  JVW mentioned he did it because the opening post obviously needed it given the title and then I had to because it just seemed perfect and someone else feels the same, I guess.   

Malc knows I like his posts lots if he actually pays attention to rep points.  If he doesn’t pay attention, it won’t matter.   

Samesies:) It is an interesting discussion about the different usages of the reactions. I don’t think much about them, but I could see how someone who puts a lot of thought into a post, perhaps is even hesitant to put their thoughts out there, could be affected by a negative reaction. I think I know who will give me negative reactions and who will give me positive reactions so I take them with a grain of salt, however, if someone who usually gives me positive reactions suddenly gives me a negative reaction, then that would give me pause for thought. 

Edited October 27, 2024 by Peacefully

[Malc]

27 minutes ago, Peacefully said:

Samesies:) It is an interesting discussion about the different usages of the reactions. I don’t think much about them, but I could see how someone who puts a lot of thought into a post, perhaps is even hesitant to put their thoughts out there, could be affected by a negative reaction. I think I know who will give me negative reactions and who will give me positive reactions so I take them with a grain of salt, however, if someone who usually gives me positive reactions suddenly gives me a negative reaction, then that would give me pause for thought. 

"if someone who usually gives me positive reactions suddenly gives me a negative reaction, then that would give me pause for thought."

Very much this, but a little more. I feel the same about some posters here that I have a lot of respect for, even though they are, so to speak, on the other side of the belief spectrum from me, and may normally not upvote or otherwise comment favourably. I'm bothered by a negative comment or a downvote from one of these posters because it makes me think that I may either have expressed myself particularly badly, or have missed something in the discussion.

[Malc]

1 hour ago, Dario_M said:

I'm happy to read that. As long as this is a joke i don't see the harm of it right..

Actually, I'd go a little further and say that not only is there no harm in it, but to me it indicates a degree of empathy and acceptance that one poster can gently make fun of another, knowing that it will not be taken badly.

Another of the things I like about this forum.

[Dario_M]

3 minutes ago, Malc said:

Actually, I'd go a little further and say that not only is there no harm in it, but to me it indicates a degree of empathy and acceptance that one poster can gently make fun of another, knowing that it will not be taken badly.

Another of the things I like about this forum.

True. I'm fully agree with you. That  makes a whole lot of a difference indeed. But i find that you made a very interesting topic as well. 😉

[CV75]

21 hours ago, Malc said:

Having seen some downvoting recently on this forum, I'm more than a little curious about why other members downvote a post or comment.

Are you willing to share your rationale? If you would like to comment on how your LDS faith informs your decision to downvote or not, I'd be interested in that too.

I'll start!

I don't recall downvoting in the past, though that may be more a function of my memory than anything else.

There's quite a lot that I disagree with - being an apostate on a largely believing forum - but disagreeing with someone per se is not, for me, a reason to downvote.

It's possible that I might consider downvoting a comment that I see as particulary nasty, but I've no ambition to be a forum nanny - more likely in a case like that that I'll try to respond with something positive, or, at least, mollifying.

If I feel a flash of anger at something I read, I may hold off a bit to see who else responds, and how, and as a result may refrain from saying anything. Certain others are much more eloquent and compassionate than I, so it sometimes pays to wait.

I downvote out of hate and spite, and I, yes, ENJOY doing it!!!!

[Calm]

1 hour ago, CV75 said:

I downvote out of hate and spite, and I, yes, ENJOY doing it!!!!

You have apparently given two downvotes in your board life….you are so vicious 

Edited October 27, 2024 by Calm

[CV75]

32 minutes ago, Calm said:

You have apparently given two downvotes in your board life….you are so vicious 

Those posts must have been real stinkeroos! Please link them so we can all relish the putridity once again (thank you in advance) -- just kidding!  :D!

[Calm]

41 minutes ago, CV75 said:

Those posts must have been real stinkeroos! Please link them so we can all relish the putridity once again (thank you in advance) -- just kidding!  :D!

Not sure how to find them…

[Teancum]

On 10/26/2024 at 4:32 PM, Pyreaux said:

Well, the ex-members californa boy and Teancum usually will downvote my social opinions or saying I said things I didn't say. So, I'd show my disagreement.

Well I just gave you and up vote to make you fell happy and better. 😁

[MustardSeed]

8 minutes ago, Teancum said:

Well I just gave you and up vote to make you fell happy and better. 😁

We can’t have that. I’ll help. 

[Pyreaux]

58 minutes ago, Teancum said:

Well I just gave you and up vote to make you fell happy and better. 😁

Cool beans.

[JVW]

23 hours ago, manol said:

My perception is that downvotes are not very good at conveying information or intent.  I get the impression they can be misunderstood, and/or can hurt the feelings of the recipient, and tempting as it might be sometimes, that's not what I'm here for. 

Why do I want to downvote your post so badly? You escaped the downvote because your picture is a cat, and my daughter loves cats. But man, I was hovering over that downvote button for a good 5 seconds debating with myself. Also, I like you and didn't want to hurt your feelings.

In other news, I didn't know rep points were a thing... So I can check my profile to see how much people like me or something? I don't see any indicator of rep in this forum besides a count of total posts posted by the poster under their picture.

[Malc]

12 hours ago, Dario_M said:

True. I'm fully agree with you. That  makes a whole lot of a difference indeed. But i find that you made a very interesting topic as well. 😉

Thanks, Dario.

It's my first thread starter on this forum. I have a couple of related items rattling around in my brain, and perhaps I'll make another OP or two.

[Rain]

7 hours ago, Calm said:

You have apparently given two downvotes in your board life….you are so vicious 

Huh.  Apparently, I have given 4 downvotes.  Not happy about that.  No judgment on others.  I just don't like that I have done it for multiple reasons.

Edited October 28, 2024 by Rain

[Calm]

42 minutes ago, Rain said:

Huh.  Apparently, I have given 4 downvotes.  Not happy about that.  No judgment on others.  I just don't like that I have done it for multiple reasons.

There have been some very nasty sexist or racist comments on the board, but also some highly judgmental. Sometimes it’s necessary imo to express my unhappiness with a post more than just reporting it to the mods. I don’t give it to people who would change their behaviour if I talked to them about how it would come across, but ones who have done it intentionally and don’t back down.

I have 50….

The positives I have given are over 100,000, so I am not unhappy about my rate.   

Edited October 28, 2024 by Calm

[Dario_M]

48 minutes ago, Malc said:

Thanks, Dario.

It's my first thread starter on this forum. I have a couple of related items rattling around in my brain, and perhaps I'll make another OP or two.

Yeah that would be amazing. And that is exactly what this board needs right now. Because it's a bit of a dead end on here. A lot of people don't wanna make so much topics anymore. Or they don't even wanna participate in the topics. I understood that it used to be differend here. 

And i ussume that you have experienced that as well in the past. I saw that you had made an account in 2009. So you know how it used to be here. 

[Calm]

3 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Yeah that would be amazing. And that is exactly what this board needs right now. Because it's a bit of a dead end on here. A lot of people don't wanna make so much topics anymore. Or they don't even wanna participate in the topics. I understood that it used to be differend here. 

And i ussume that you have experienced that as well in the past. I saw that you had made an account in 2009. So you know how it used to be here. 

There have always been topics that only get a few posts. Or ones that are interesting but only have a few with the depth to make substantive posts on the subject.

[Malc]

18 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Yeah that would be amazing. And that is exactly what this board needs right now. Because it's a bit of a dead end on here. A lot of people don't wanna make so much topics anymore. Or they don't even wanna participate in the topics. I understood that it used to be differend here. 

And i ussume that you have experienced that as well in the past. I saw that you had made an account in 2009. So you know how it used to be here. 

Some of the folks who have been around for a long time and have participated during that time could tell you how things were in the past, better than I can. As you can see, I've made fewer than 270 comments in 15 years, with many of them being in the past few years, if I remember correctly. From 2009 till a couple of years ago I mostly popped in for a look every few months, but had little to say.

My recollection is that until recently, making comments about the church that were negative in any way was frowned upon, and so some of the conversations that you are seeing would probably have been quite different. As with many other things, I am open to correction about that. Calm, is my recollection reasonably accurate?

Maybe Calm, California Boy, smac, or others with high comment counts would like to give you some history of the forum. 

Edited October 28, 2024 by Malc
question for Calm

[Dario_M]

12 minutes ago, Calm said:

There have always been topics that only get a few posts. Or ones that are interesting but only have a few with the depth to make substantive posts on the subject.

But it used to be way more busy up here you know. And now this board is just death. Heck even i can see a differends from the moment i started here 2 years ago till now. Where have everyone gone? Probably they just have left the board or they have been permanently banned. And that last thing was probably not very wise in my opinion because now we have a death board.

So that's why it makes me enthusiastic if i read that people like Malc wanna make more topics. Then we have something differend to talk about. Because the few people who make topics right now are only talking about the same subjects every time the make a new topic. 

[Dario_M]

16 minutes ago, Malc said:

Some of the folks who have been around for a long time and have participated during that time could tell you how things were in the past, better than I can. As you can see, I've made fewer than 270 comments in 15 years, with many of them being in the past few years, if I remember correctly. From 2009 till a couple of years ago I mostly popped in for a look every few months, but had little to say.

Oh really? Yeah that makes a differends indeed. 

16 minutes ago, Malc said:

My recollection is that until recently, making comments about the church that were negative in any way was frowned upon, and so some of the conversations that you are seeing would probably have been quite different. As with many other things, I am open to correction about that. Calm, is my recollection reasonably accurate?

 

She have been here for really long. And so far i know always have been an active member. 

16 minutes ago, Malc said:

Maybe Calm, California Boy, smac, or others with high comment counts would like to give you some history of the forum. 

I would be curious to hear about that. Things change all the time. From the begin 2000s till now in the 2024s. I mean... a lot must have changed through all those years. 

Edited October 28, 2024 by Dario_M