Interview with LDS Farnsworth who defeated LDS Rusty Bowers, Jan 6. Witness, in Arizona

[Kevin Christensen]

Personally, I find this rather depressing.  I had been impressed by Rusty Bowers during the Jan. 6 hearings.  His replacement?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spent-two-half-hours-david-130000672.html

In particular, the conviction regarding election fraud without facts to back it up ("Farnsworth also said he has "no doubt" that the 2020 election was stolen, but was up-front in declaring that he personally has no evidence to back up that assertion."), and this:

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By the time our conversation reached the one-hour mark, Farnsworth had produced a large, well-worn, marked-up copy of the Book of Mormon from his shelf, and was reciting passages from it while explaining how scripture influenced his way of thinking.

He began with one chapter detailing the struggle between "freemen" and "King-men" among the Nephites, a group that settled in the Americas hundreds of years before the birth of Jesus Christ, according to Mormon teachings. He likened that dichotomy to "freedom-loving people" and "socialists" in modern-day America.

Notice that he applies the story of the Freemen and King-men modern America, casting "socialists" in the role of Amalekiah and his coalition, and in the role of Moroni, Trump?

If we look to the Book of Mormon account, and Nibley's close reading in "Freemen and Kingmen in the Book of Mormon" we find these details, which, I think are not at all difficult to liken to current circumstances:

In the Nibley essay on the topic in The Prophetic Book of Mormon, he notes Amalekiah, a large and imposing man noted for ambition, pride and flattering speech was the candidate of the Kingmen, and he lost when "the voice of the people came in favor of the freemen" (Alma 51:7), the kingmen refused to accept defeat.  (Nibley, 329.)
The kingmen were those distinguished by "their exceeding great riches" (Alma 45:24), and where "exceeding wroth" that is, a hate group.  They wanted monarchy and were "of high birth, and sought to be kings" (Alma 51:8)--everyone one in line for the throne.  (Nibley 333).  There were those who "professed the blood of nobility" (Alma 51:21), their friends, kindred, lawyers and high priests" and many members of the church who "believed in the flattering words of Amalekiah" (Alma 46:7). A  Also see Nibley, 370.   Yeah how could that describing anyone but modern socialists?  Ugh.  Why even think of "bearing one another's burdens that they may light" or having all things in common, and covenanting to personally "keep the commandments of God" when in the real world "A man prospers by his strength and whatsoever a man does is no crime." (Alma 30:17).

FWIW,

Kevin Christensen

Canonsburg, PA 

[ksfisher]

16 minutes ago, Kevin Christensen said:

In the Nibley essay on the topic in The Prophetic Book of Mormon, he notes Amalekiah, a large and imposing man noted for ambition, pride and flattering speech was the candidate of the Kingmen, and he lost when "the voice of the people came in favor of the freemen" (Alma 51:7), the kingmen refused to accept defeat.  (Nibley, 329.)
The kingmen were those distinguished by "their exceeding great riches" (Alma 45:24), and where "exceeding wroth" that is, a hate group.  They wanted monarchy and were "of high birth, and sought to be kings" (Alma 51:8)--everyone one in line for the throne.  (Nibley 333).  There were those who "professed the blood of nobility" (Alma 51:21), their friends, kindred, lawyers and high priests" and many members of the church who "believed in the flattering words of Amalekiah" (Alma 46:7). A  Also see Nibley, 370.   Yeah how could that describing anyone but modern socialists?  Ugh.  Why even think of "bearing one another's burdens that they may light" or having all things in common, and covenanting to personally "keep the commandments of God" when in the real world "A man prospers by his strength and whatsoever a man does is no crime." (Alma 30:17).

Oddly prophetic, wouldn't you say?

[Tacenda]

5 hours ago, Kevin Christensen said:

Personally, I find this rather depressing.  I had been impressed by Rusty Bowers during the Jan. 6 hearings.  His replacement?

https://www.yahoo.com/news/spent-two-half-hours-david-130000672.html

In particular, the conviction regarding election fraud without facts to back it up ("Farnsworth also said he has "no doubt" that the 2020 election was stolen, but was up-front in declaring that he personally has no evidence to back up that assertion."), and this:

Notice that he applies the story of the Freemen and King-men modern America, casting "socialists" in the role of Amalekiah and his coalition, and in the role of Moroni, Trump?

If we look to the Book of Mormon account, and Nibley's close reading in "Freemen and Kingmen in the Book of Mormon" we find these details, which, I think are not at all difficult to liken to current circumstances:

In the Nibley essay on the topic in The Prophetic Book of Mormon, he notes Amalekiah, a large and imposing man noted for ambition, pride and flattering speech was the candidate of the Kingmen, and he lost when "the voice of the people came in favor of the freemen" (Alma 51:7), the kingmen refused to accept defeat.  (Nibley, 329.)
The kingmen were those distinguished by "their exceeding great riches" (Alma 45:24), and where "exceeding wroth" that is, a hate group.  They wanted monarchy and were "of high birth, and sought to be kings" (Alma 51:8)--everyone one in line for the throne.  (Nibley 333).  There were those who "professed the blood of nobility" (Alma 51:21), their friends, kindred, lawyers and high priests" and many members of the church who "believed in the flattering words of Amalekiah" (Alma 46:7). A  Also see Nibley, 370.   Yeah how could that describing anyone but modern socialists?  Ugh.  Why even think of "bearing one another's burdens that they may light" or having all things in common, and covenanting to personally "keep the commandments of God" when in the real world "A man prospers by his strength and whatsoever a man does is no crime." (Alma 30:17).

FWIW,

Kevin Christensen

Canonsburg, PA 

I think I'm gonna be sick.🤢

[Tacenda]

While watching this, it made me think of this topic. There is a great need for the truth to be forefront in all our lives for democracy's sake.