Mike Drop Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) On 1/5/2022 at 3:04 AM, dougtheavenger said: Satan is the author of all lies. He lies with a purpose in mind. He doesn't need everyone to believe his lies. He doesn't need anyone to believe his lies forever or their whole lives. He just needs some people to believe his lies long enough for some critical time to pass. To be deceived by Satan is to lose some vital opportunity. Once you learn the truth, it may be too late. On 1/5/2022 at 3:04 AM, dougtheavenger said: Yeah, but our Heavenly Parents want him to lie. That’s his calling. He was chosen by our Heavenly Parents to be opposition in all things. Remember this, “ it must needs be, that there is an opposition in all things”. Satan, our brother, is extremely important and you should probably be thanking him for accepting such a crappy calling from our Heavenly Parents. Edited January 6, 2022 by Mike Drop
Mike Drop Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 17 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: There has always been the question of how those polygamous relationships actually worked. Yes, Joseph was sealed to a number of women (conveniently listed by Fawn Brodie), and he supposedly had children by some of them. However, even though Joseph was fertile the entire time (continually having children by his wife Emma), we have yet to find one offspring of his from those sealings. That leads to the strong possibility that we have misunderstood the nature of those sealings, which may not have been consummated. This makes absolutely no sense Robert. Are you saying Joseph Smith lived a form plural marriage the next six prophets of the church didn’t live? Because the next six prophets after Joseph all had children with multiple women. It’s more likely Joseph didn’t have children because he used the “pull out” method while having sex because he knew having children with multiple women would sink the church while still in the United States. Also remember, he was running for President, he had to deny polygamy if he wanted to be elected. You see how lying comes in handy sometimes, even prophets take advantage. 1
Robert F. Smith Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Mike Drop said: This makes absolutely no sense Robert. Are you saying Joseph Smith lived a form plural marriage the next six prophets of the church didn’t live? Because the next six prophets after Joseph all had children with multiple women. It’s more likely Joseph didn’t have children because he used the “pull out” method while having sex because he knew having children with multiple women would sink the church while still in the United States. Also remember, he was running for President, he had to deny polygamy if he wanted to be elected. You see how lying comes in handy sometimes, even prophets take advantage. You're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't, under that theory. Joseph was sealed to other women long before he ever ran for President. Most people have assumed all along that Joseph's sealings were consummated, but that notion has now come a cropper. So some other set of assumptions must be put into play -- including the notoriously failed notion that a couple can in fact control conception. You have got to be kidding.
The Nehor Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Mike Drop said: This makes absolutely no sense Robert. Are you saying Joseph Smith lived a form plural marriage the next six prophets of the church didn’t live? Because the next six prophets after Joseph all had children with multiple women. It’s more likely Joseph didn’t have children because he used the “pull out” method while having sex because he knew having children with multiple women would sink the church while still in the United States. Also remember, he was running for President, he had to deny polygamy if he wanted to be elected. You see how lying comes in handy sometimes, even prophets take advantage. What do you call a couple that uses the pull out method? Parents! *Drums do ‘ba dum tss’ sound* 1
california boy Posted January 6, 2022 Posted January 6, 2022 16 hours ago, dougtheavenger said: This statement of yours is yet another falsehood. I have no problem with polygamy. I have a problem with lies. No statement by me in this thread criticizes polygamy or challenges it's approval by God. So what exactly is the big lie that Satan is pushing? And just why is he pushing it?
dougtheavenger Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) Satan's lies may be stupid in that they are obviously seen as false but that does not mean they are ineffective. Take another example, In Antrim county, Michigan, software and hardware provided by Dominion Inc. counted votes cast for Trump to the total for Biden. When caught Dominion gave the most stupid excuse imaginable; claiming it was user error because the user failed to update their software to use the same spreadsheets in all precincts. The excuse was as much a condemnation of Dominion as the bare facts. The one goal of voting software is to count the votes. It's basic math. It's addition. Any design that allows votes to be counted for the wrong candidate is moronic at best and designed to cheat at worst. As a software developer with decades of experience, I can say without doubt that Dominion is unfit to participate in any future election because they are either morons too dumb to count the votes accurately or crooks who deliberately design the software to facilitate cheating. Yet there are enough dimwits to buy this lie so that Dominion is still in business. Edited January 7, 2022 by dougtheavenger 1
Popular Post ttribe Posted January 7, 2022 Popular Post Posted January 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Satan's lies may be stupid in that they are obviously seen as false but that does not mean they are ineffective. Take another example, In Antrim county, Michigan, software and hardware provided by Dominion Inc. counted votes cast for Trump to the total for Biden. When caught Dominion gave the most stupid excuse imaginable; claiming it was user error because the user failed to update their software to use the same spreadsheets in all precincts. The excuse was as much a condemnation of Dominion as the bare facts. The one goal of voting software is to count the votes. It's basic math. It's addition. Any design that allows votes to be counted for the wrong candidate is moronic at best and designed to cheat at worst. As a software developer with decades of experience, I can say without doubt that Dominion is unfit to participate in any future election because they are either morons too dumb to count the votes accurately or crooks who deliberately design the software to facilitate cheating. Yet there are enough dimwits to buy this lie so that Dominion is still in business. Everything you just said there is false and violates the rules regarding politics on this board. 5
dougtheavenger Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, ttribe said: Everything you just said there is false and violates the rules regarding politics on this board. nothing I said is false and you're a liar -1
Chum Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 28 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Take another example, In Antrim county, Michigan, software and hardware provided by Dominion Inc. counted votes cast for Trump to the total for Biden. CFR
The Nehor Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 30 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: Satan's lies may be stupid in that they are obviously seen as false but that does not mean they are ineffective. Take another example, In Antrim county, Michigan, software and hardware provided by Dominion Inc. counted votes cast for Trump to the total for Biden. When caught Dominion gave the most stupid excuse imaginable; claiming it was user error because the user failed to update their software to use the same spreadsheets in all precincts. The excuse was as much a condemnation of Dominion as the bare facts. The one goal of voting software is to count the votes. It's basic math. It's addition. Any design that allows votes to be counted for the wrong candidate is moronic at best and designed to cheat at worst. As a software developer with decades of experience, I can say without doubt that Dominion is unfit to participate in any future election because they are either morons too dumb to count the votes accurately or crooks who deliberately design the software to facilitate cheating. Yet there are enough dimwits to buy this lie so that Dominion is still in business. You are a terrible software developer if you think election software just has to count the ballots. What about authentication? Preventing duplicate scans of the same ballot? Marking a ballot recorded so it is known who cast it, when, and where. It also has to pass those totals on and it is not just whether they picked candidate A or candidate B. There are a lot of races to add up. Also, this was a debunked conspiracy. I believe this one went to the courts and was dismissed for being stupid but I could be confusing it with other stupidity. There was a lot of stupidity. So so far your lies are: 1. A nocturnal emission statement that you said was as lie but is actually true so not a lie. 2. A supposition about Joseph Smith before the facts were in that was just a theory so not a lie. 3. Saying that there are liars due to a debunked conspiracy theory so again, not a lie. 0 for 3. You claim to be sniffing out lies but it seems that that itself is…..……A LIE!!!!!!!!!
The Nehor Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, dougtheavenger said: nothing I said is false and you're a liar 1
ttribe Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, dougtheavenger said: nothing I said is false and you're a liar Nifty. I have reason to suspect you are mentally ill.
rodheadlee Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, The Nehor said: You are a terrible software developer if you think election software just has to count the ballots. What about authentication? Preventing duplicate scans of the same ballot? Marking a ballot recorded so it is known who cast it, when, and where. It also has to pass those totals on and it is not just whether they picked candidate A or candidate B. There are a lot of races to add up. Also, this was a debunked conspiracy. I believe this one went to the courts and was dismissed for being stupid but I could be confusing it with other stupidity. There was a lot of stupidity. So so far your lies are: 1. A nocturnal emission statement that you said was as lie but is actually true so not a lie. 2. A supposition about Joseph Smith before the facts were in that was just a theory so not a lie. 3. Saying that there are liars due to a debunked conspiracy theory so again, not a lie. 0 for 3. You claim to be sniffing out lies but it seems that that itself is…..……A LIE!!!!!!!!! Sorry I don't buy 132,000 votes for Biden and 0 for Trump. It just doesn't happen.
Calm Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, rodheadlee said: Sorry I don't buy 132,000 votes for Biden and 0 for Trump. It just doesn't happen. It didn’t if this is what you are talking about…. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/tweets/no-biden-did-not-receive-thousands-mysteriously-su/ I need to go watch my Korean lawyers’ show rather than getting tangled up here. No self discipline tonight….I knew as soon as I saw that post I was going to let myself get sucked in. Edited January 7, 2022 by Calm 2
rodheadlee Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Calm said: It didn’t if this is what you are talking about…. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/tweets/no-biden-did-not-receive-thousands-mysteriously-su/ I need to go watch my Korean lawyers’ show rather than getting tangled up here. No self discipline tonight….I knew as soon as I saw that post I was going to let myself get sucked in. Even if it did happen it wouldn't change anything. They were going to make darn sure Trump was never going to be president for the next term or ever. The one thing I do know is that since Biden is president, my fuel bill has gone up 500.00 per month. And the climate hasn't changed one darn bit. That was going to be my down payment on a new Ford electric truck I guess I'll just keep driving the gas burner.
Chum Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Calm said: No, please don’t. fiiiiiiiinnne. I'll seek my bloodsport elsewhere.
Calm Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chum said: fiiiiiiiinnne. I'll seek my bloodsport elsewhere. Why bother, I just let off my shot… 1
Chum Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, rodheadlee said: Even if it did happen it wouldn't change anything. They were going to make darn sure Trump was never going to be president for the next term or ever. The one thing I do know is that since Biden is president, my fuel bill has gone up 500.00 per month. And the climate hasn't changed one darn bit. One day I'd like to do an AMA titled I'm A Recovering Conservative. Partially because I still hold many of the same conclusions but the ideology left me for a place of positively unhinged irrationality. For whatever it means, I admit I never saw that coming. 2
kimpearson Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 I have found over time that those who talk a lot about Satan being behind everything usually have some very unusual views of the world. There is plenty of delusions and lies in the hearts of many individuals. Satan doesn't get involved in telling the lies, he just convinces someone that their lie isn't one and in fact is a righteous belief. I offer several posts in this thread as exhibit A. 1
rodheadlee Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Chum said: One day I'd like to do an AMA titled I'm A Recovering Conservative. Partially because I still hold many of the same conclusions but the ideology left me for a place of positively unhinged irrationality. For whatever it means, I admit I never saw that coming. Yeah I wish we had a Centrist party. Socially liberal fiscally conservative. 1
ttribe Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 1 hour ago, rodheadlee said: Even if it did happen it wouldn't change anything. They were going to make darn sure Trump was never going to be president for the next term or ever. The one thing I do know is that since Biden is president, my fuel bill has gone up 500.00 per month. And the climate hasn't changed one darn bit. That was going to be my down payment on a new Ford electric truck I guess I'll just keep driving the gas burner. Your fuel bill would have gone up either way. Having worked with and studied oil and gas markets significantly for my professional obligations, it is my opinion there is very little a presidential aim can do to significantly influence short-term prices. The market is far more complex than you are understanding.
rodheadlee Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, ttribe said: Your fuel bill would have gone up either way. Having worked with and studied oil and gas markets significantly for my professional obligations, it is my opinion there is very little a presidential aim can do to significantly influence short-term prices. The market is far more complex than you are understanding. No doubt. I would say it was a coincidence but I don't really believe in coincidences.
california boy Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, rodheadlee said: No doubt. I would say it was a coincidence but I don't really believe in coincidences. Well I guess you can hope that the virus gets so out of control again that the country goes under lockdown again like it did under president Trump and driving drastically is reduced. That should bring your gas bill down. Or the government could take over the free market and artificially manipulate world gas prices so your gas bill would go down. Which option would you like Biden to take?
dougtheavenger Posted January 7, 2022 Author Posted January 7, 2022 3 hours ago, Calm said: It didn’t if this is what you are talking about…. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/04/tweets/no-biden-did-not-receive-thousands-mysteriously-su/ I need to go watch my Korean lawyers’ show rather than getting tangled up here. No self discipline tonight….I knew as soon as I saw that post I was going to let myself get sucked in. No. That is not what I'm talking about. The votes involved were about 6,000 and it was in Antrim County Michigan and it's not politics. It's a court case.
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