strappinglad Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, pogi said: What did the prophet say about it? I think the Church letter mentioned dressing appropriately for the sacrament.
SeekerB Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Our ward divided us up alphabetically into small groups. We went to the church building at appointed times to have the Sacrament. It was regular church attire.
Calm Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, CV75 said: True, if there were no socialized "Sunday best" there would be other respectful / reverent behaviors. Thinking out loud here, I wonder which ones might be strictly intuitive for the un-churched penitent. Taking off one’s shoes perhaps? Ex 3:5 2
Calm Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 minute ago, SeekerB said: Our ward divided us up alphabetically into small groups. We went to the church building at appointed times to have the Sacrament. It was regular church attire. What state or country was this in, if you don’t mind?
Thinking Posted March 17, 2020 Author Posted March 17, 2020 13 hours ago, strappinglad said: Are you trying to find out how many people followed the Prophet ? No. Just curious.
The Nehor Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 The idea that physical things do not matter and are just for the perception of others is, in my never humble opinion, wrong. Humans are amphibians and are part spirit and part flesh. The body kneeling has an effect on the spirit in the same way that the spirit humbling itself before God has impact on the body. People do act differently when they are dressed differently. I just hate "Sunday best". One of the best things about Narnia as a kid was the idea that your best clothing there was also the most comfortable. 3
MorningStar Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 We wore our Sunday best to show respect for the sacrament and so we can feel a little more normal around here. It's noon and I'm still in my jammies right now. 2
Rain Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 4 hours ago, ALarson said: It was just myself and my wife and we dressed in nice casual. I'm fine if others want to dress in the church attire as I believe that's a personal matter and choice. I honestly believe though that it's the respect and reverence you have in your heart and mind rather than what you are wearing that is important. "Rev'rence is more than just quietly sitting:It's thinking of Father above,A feeling I get when I think of his blessings.I'm rev'rent, for rev'rence is love.When I'm rev'rent, it shows in my words and my deeds.The pathway to follow is clear.And when I am rev'rent, I know in my heartHeav'nly Father and Jesus are near." 2
Calm Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 1 hour ago, MorningStar said: We wore our Sunday best to show respect for the sacrament and so we can feel a little more normal around here. It's noon and I'm still in my jammies right now. You all are living my life now, lol. 2
Hamba Tuhan Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 Housemate A and I both put on suits. In my mind, I was going to church, and I love how the whole experience sanctified my home. Housemate B worked the night shift and got home just in time to join us. (He picked the time based on when he would get home.) He was wearing shorts and a T-shirt. (And smelt bad.) We also had a recent-ish convert join us. He was wearing jeans with a shirt and a tie. (He would normally wear a suit to church.) And my non-member friend also joined us. He was wearing jeans and a polo. My sense is that each us had his individual needs met. 4
Avatar4321 Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 I would have if we had home Church. But we didn’t since I woke up at 3am puking my guts out and the rest of Sunday sleeping or barely able to stand.
CV75 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Dan McClellan said: There aren't a ton of universal intuitions about what deity expects of followers, but even unchurched folks are generally aware of the expectations of the traditions around them, and that can be influential. I know as a missionary I saw investigators frequently assume and immediately adopt this or that expected behavior, whether or not it was actually expected of them. The kind of example I'm trying to get at is similar to the time I received my testimony (long story, but no missionaries, minimal instruction from two Church pamphlets, a very visceral and rudimentary kind of prayer). I didn't know what to do with my testimony, but when I washed my face in the morning I thought to myself, "Father, Son and Holy Ghost as I splashed the water on my face. While I learned that phrase from my environment, and I had a notion of what baptism and holy water were (I was not Catholic, nor any other religion at the time), it was a perfectly private observance that I replaced with more formal prayer once I learned how. 1
CV75 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Dan McClellan said: Ah, so why did you think it relevant to note that you figured the ward council wouldn't be able to tell you hadn't shaved over WebEx? With the ward council it was in the hope of not being a distraction without working too hard at it (...but they did ask if I was wearing dress pants anyway LOL). That is in keeping with social expectations. With administering the sacrament it is more a personal gesture of reverence to the Lord, though as you can see I gave myself a break since I had spent enough time preening already. But yes, shaving is another cultural norm, though more in keeping with my personal expectations n the second case. One could say I should be as equally reverent in the ward council as I am at the sacrament table and he would be right, and maybe I'll do better next time.
CV75 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Calm said: Taking off one’s shoes perhaps? Ex 3:5 Good example (if one has heard of this before), or assuming the Lord telling Moses to take off his shoes is akin to my conscience telling me to recite "the Father, Son and Holy Ghost" in my mind while splashing water on my face in the morning. ETA: On the other hand, Moses had also seen this custom before (I understand Egyptian priests removed their shoes when standing/serving before their gods). ETA 2: So maybe an example is Adam sacrificing without an explanation, simply because he was told to. The devil told him previously to make some clothes to hide something he really didn't need to be ashamed of, shame in a way being the antithesis of reverence and love. Edited March 18, 2020 by CV75
CV75 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 So I'm thinking we ideally strive to give our best to the Lord, whether that is informed by culture or conscience or a balance of both, to the level of our capacity to be so informed and execute. This sounds a lot like life in Zion!
CV75 Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 Looks like I've still got the platform! I'm thinking that since we are fundamentally spirit beings, cultural practices originate from natural responses to stimuli, the conscience (God), or carnal, sensual and devilish foci (the devil). Of course, the keys can be used to re-frame any practice (in form, function or meaning) regardless of its origin, which may offer a hint as to how things are run in Zion. For example, general principle is to consecrate our temporal means (e.g. dress) for spiritual purposes (ordinances); or, as in the temple, all dress and seek the Lord alike.
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