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1 hour ago, california boy said:

 Don't have a position on how a person becomes gay either. I just know that o always have been gay. I totally disagree with your assertment that human sexuality is fluid and learned.  With SOME people it may me fluid but not all  

and it is not learned. I knew I was gay long before any sexual experience. If you really think it is learned then perhaps if only gay would marry they will learn to become straight

oh wait we tried that already. How did that turn out?

Sexuality may not be a choice by some, how one uses it is always a choice. 

Posted
6 hours ago, Darren10 said:

Sexuality may not be a choice by some, how one uses it is always a choice. 

Do you believe that there are "gay" or "homosexual" Mormons, or only "Mormons who experience same-sex attractions"?

Posted
17 minutes ago, cinepro said:

Do you believe that there are "gay" or "homosexual" Mormons, or only "Mormons who experience same-sex attractions"?

Yes. 

Posted
7 hours ago, Darren10 said:

I think it's legal because the courts, yet again, upsurped the vote of the people and because there are enough people now who do support it, yes. Bad Mormon and conservative judges. 

Chief Justice Roberts: Bad on Affordable Care Act, good on gay marriage.

Daren I am not going to spend a lot of time on this. I get that you want to believe that gay marriage should not be legsl to the point that you are willing to ignore law to do so. This is pretty basic but are certain rights that can not be voted on. Equal treatment under the law is one of them

There are very few laws that everyone agrees with. Quoting those who write the deserting opinion doesn't really support your theory. It might however help you to study what the decision was actually decided upon. It is quite clear what constitutional grounds gay marriage was based upon. Unless of course you don't really want to understand why all of the courts ruled the way they did. 

Posted
9 hours ago, Darren10 said:

PS - It became legal in California because of one judge. Yes. 

No gay marriage was not legal again in California until the Supreme Court ruling. 

Posted
9 hours ago, Darren10 said:

Sexuality may not be a choice by some, how one uses it is always a choice. 

Of course. You could choose to be celibate also.  Wonder why you didn't make that choice?

Posted
13 minutes ago, california boy said:

Daren I am not going to spend a lot of time on this. I get that you want to believe that gay marriage should not be legsl to the point that you are willing to ignore law to do so. This is pretty basic but are certain rights that can not be voted on. Equal treatment under the law is one of them

There are very few laws that everyone agrees with. Quoting those who write the deserting opinion doesn't really support your theory. It might however help you to study what the decision was actually decided upon. It is quite clear what constitutional grounds gay marriage was based upon. Unless of course you don't really want to understand why all of the courts ruled the way they did. 

How is it that when you post sbout me that tou know more than me than I do? You constantly tell me my intent. Wheat I understand. And don't understand. How does that work? 

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, california boy said:

Daren I am not going to spend a lot of time on this. I get that you want to believe that gay marriage should not be legsl to the point that you are willing to ignore law to do so. This is pretty basic but are certain rights that can not be voted on. Equal treatment under the law is one of them

There are very few laws that everyone agrees with. Quoting those who write the deserting opinion doesn't really support your theory. It might however help you to study what the decision was actually decided upon. It is quite clear what constitutional grounds gay marriage was based upon. Unless of course you don't really want to understand why all of the courts ruled the way they did. 

I guess on June 10, 1868 gay marriage would have won in the Supreme Court. 

https://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/ourdocs/14thamendment.html

Edited by Darren10
Posted
12 minutes ago, california boy said:

Of course. You could choose to be celibate also.  Wonder why you didn't make that choice?

To have babies? How about you? 

Posted
13 hours ago, california boy said:

I totally disagree with your assertment that human . . .

It is spelled assertion . . . or if you prefer:  assertSHUN ! ! !   :unsure:

Posted
14 hours ago, longview said:

It is spelled assertion . . . or if you prefer:  assertSHUN ! ! !   :unsure:

Any caramels in that assertment?

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