mfbukowski Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 15 hours ago, strappinglad said: Recently I have been youtube binge watching the ' Sirius Disclosure " which presents witness testimony about UFOs ( ya, I know, please don't judge.... too harshly ) . One of the reasons given by gov't etc. for not acknowledging the existence of ' others ' , is that the public would panic and there would be a mass fleeing from organized religion. Thought experiment. Suppose it became fully excepted and proven that extraterrestrials are around and have been here for a long time. What effect would this have on your view of religion, particularly LDS religion? For myself , I see LDS scriptures as saying there are myriad other worlds and other beings. There are quite a few other religions which deny such, and I suppose would have a harder time of it. I would still have questions about why they are allowed to interact with us and what connection they might have with God . For those who claim the speed of light barrier would keep all ETS away, even if they exist, let's assume they are able to control the space time continuum No problem for me if anyone cares. I'd love it. For me, whales have intelligence comparable to ours but are total aliens. You want aliens? Study whales! Imagine not needing clothes and just walking around and opening your mouth to eat, with a huge brain and nothing to do all day except sing to your buddies. Sign me up 1
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Do you think everyone on Earth realizes that if we were asked if we had come here from some other planet that we would have to admit that we did, to be honest? Not that everyone would believe it, or admit it, but we all actually did, ya know. 1
Duncan Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Just now, Ahab said: Yep, I like sardines too, with crackers. And kippered herring, with crackers. And smoked salmon, with crackers, or lots of garlic and butter and herbs, and crackers. It's hard to find good tasting crackers that aren't made with any oil, though. I also like peanut butter, with crackers. Do you like crackers? crackers, i can take them or leave them
pogi Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 39 minutes ago, Ahab said: When I order it, yes. Which is rarely. I like fish, or the taste of fish, generally. But I very seldom eat animal flesh anymore, including filets of fish flesh. I usually eat nothing but plants or the fruits that are grown on plants, in their whole form. with no added oils. One of the few who actually follow the WoW. Kudos!
CV75 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Darren10 said: This guy is not amused: https://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/img/editorial/2013/01/03/100352544-et-the-extra-terrestrial-900.530x298.jpg?v=1473067063 He who points the finger goes home!
CV75 Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Bernard Gui said: Well, so far they appear to have obeyed the Prime Directive. Or have they? Only the Prime Detective knows. 1
Calm Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Ahab said: Roses have thorns too and I don't hear any women complaining about them! Sheesh! You seem like a difficult guy to please! Why do you think they have thornless roses? http://www.heirloomroses.com/info/rose-information/114/
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 2 minutes ago, Calm said: Why do you think they have thornless roses? http://www.heirloomroses.com/info/rose-information/114/ To make it less likely for women to complain when receiving roses from a man???
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Just now, Calm said: So women do complain. Yes but I thank God I had never heard or even thought about a woman complaining about receiving roses, until today. I suppose there are some women who would, though. I'd just like to go back to not ever hearing about it.
Calm Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 I don't have roses in my garden because my dil is allergic. She has every right to complain if her husband or someone else who should remember this gets her roses. It would be like my husband bringing me chocolates when he knows well that it sets off my movement disorder. It would show a lack of caring, a superficial gesture that had no real thought of the individual involved. It is disrespectful, not love, to not care what a woman really wants, but to just want to give her what you like to give her.
Calm Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 13 minutes ago, Ahab said: To make it less likely for women to complain when receiving roses from a man??? Because men never complain about being stabbed by a thorn while gardening or otherwise?
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Calm said: Because men never complain about being stabbed by a thorn while gardening or otherwise? I was talking about women and roses and how they usually like them, especially when they receive some from men they care about. If you want to talk about men who complain now, sure, we can change the subject, again.
Calm Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 You stated thornless roses existed so women wouldn't complain about thorns, not so everyone wouldn't complain.
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Calm said: You stated thornless roses existed so women wouldn't complain about thorns, not so everyone wouldn't complain. You didn't see my question marks??? You asked a question, I guessed at an answer. Obviously now I see that it wasn't the answer you wanted. My wife loves roses and every woman I've ever given roses to has appreciated them, rather than complained that I was giving them some... even though I am sure they do not particularly like the fact that (most) roses have thorns. A fitting flower for relationships between men and women, I think, which is not a bed of only rose "petals" or only the scent of roses, which is the part of the rose that most women like.
Calm Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 Dont mindread if you want to be taken seriously. You miss almost all the time from what I can see.
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 7 minutes ago, Calm said: Dont mindread if you want to be taken seriously. You miss almost all the time from what I can see. Then you don't see very well, obvious to me.
Calm Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) In regards to myself, I think I tend to know what I am thinking more than you. Given how often you get involved in similar discussions to what just occurred, I would be on the safe side I believe assuming you misunderstand often just as others misunderstand you. While a very common occurrence for everyone, misunderstandings or confusion in conversations you are having seem to happen at a higher rate. If you could mindread, you could help others to understand better as well as the reverse...so I am comfortable drawing this conclusion at this time. Edited April 18, 2017 by Calm
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 1 minute ago, Calm said: In regards to myself, I think I tend to know what I am thinking more than you. That works for me, too. It's fairly easy for me to tell when others are wrong about me or what I mean when I say something. 1 minute ago, Calm said: Given how often you get involved in similar discussions to what just occurred, I would be on the safe side I believe assuming you misunderstand often just as others misunderstand you. While a very common occurrence for everyone, misunderstandings or confusion in conversations you are having seem to happen at a higher rate. If you could mindread, you could help others to understand better as well as the reverse...so I am comfortable drawing this conclusion at this time. Lots of people make similar assumptions about what seems to be right for them, too, even when I know and can see they are wrong. You are no different from anyone else. Sometimes you are right, and sometimes you are wrong, just as all of us are who are not perfect yet. And by all means keep practicing at it, as I do. I hope you and everyone else will someday be as perfect as I hope to be.
strappinglad Posted April 18, 2017 Author Posted April 18, 2017 HELP ! Aliens/vegans/ flower lovers/flower haters have abducted my thread !!!
Ahab Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, strappinglad said: HELP ! Aliens/vegans/ flower lovers/flower haters have abducted my thread !!! You neglected to mention mind readers. This is a thought experiment, ain't it?
Calm Posted April 18, 2017 Posted April 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, strappinglad said: HELP ! Aliens/vegans/ flower lovers/flower haters have abducted my thread !!! My apologies, I was weak.
Rain Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Ahab said: Do you think everyone on Earth realizes that if we were asked if we had come here from some other planet that we would have to admit that we did, to be honest? Not that everyone would believe it, or admit it, but we all actually did, ya know. I don't think most would feel that way. Most don't believe in a premortal life. But if you are talying about LDS I agree.
snowflake Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 On 4/17/2017 at 10:22 PM, strappinglad said: Recently I have been youtube binge watching the ' Sirius Disclosure " which presents witness testimony about UFOs ( ya, I know, please don't judge.... too harshly ) . One of the reasons given by gov't etc. for not acknowledging the existence of ' others ' , is that the public would panic and there would be a mass fleeing from organized religion. Thought experiment. Suppose it became fully excepted and proven that extraterrestrials are around and have been here for a long time. What effect would this have on your view of religion, particularly LDS religion? For myself , I see LDS scriptures as saying there are myriad other worlds and other beings. There are quite a few other religions which deny such, and I suppose would have a harder time of it. I would still have questions about why they are allowed to interact with us and what connection they might have with God . For those who claim the speed of light barrier would keep all ETS away, even if they exist, let's assume they are able to control the space time continuum As a kid I was obsessed with the idea of UFO's and aliens, the whole conspiracy behind area 51 and what appears to be a government cover up is ripe for the ufo shows. I personally for years disregarded the whole ufo thing as rubbish, crazy people or utterly impossible, being the great distances between stars. Interesting as UFO's are, they do seem to have quite a bit of evidence that seem to support their existence. Many prominent American astronauts are firm believers in the phenomenon and claim to have seen them. http://www.syti.net/UFOSightings.html Undoubtedly if some giant spaceship showed up and revealed itself, I think that it would be a "worldview shocker" to many. Not only the EV's the LDS and naturalists as well. Biblically speaking there are a couple of possibilities for UFO's. Fallen angels, demons or the return of the Nephilim from Genesis 6.
mfbukowski Posted April 19, 2017 Posted April 19, 2017 20 hours ago, Ahab said: You didn't see my question marks??? Yeah I have seen you question Mark a lot but I think you meant to question "Marx" instead. After all others gotta make their mark in the world but I was born making my mark. Some just make a mark on the wall- that works too.
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