thought experiment

[Ahab]

1 hour ago, mfbukowski said:

Yeah I have seen you question Mark a lot but I think you meant to question "Marx" instead.

After all others gotta make their mark in the world but I was born making my mark.

Some just make a mark on the wall- that works too.

I was born on March 4th.  Like, march forth.  Get it?  I got it.

And I have been making my marks since I have been here on this planet, too.

[pogi]

3 hours ago, Ahab said:

And I have been making my marks since I have been here on this planet, too.

And we have been cleaning up your mess ever since

[rodheadlee]

On 4/17/2017 at 7:22 PM, strappinglad said:

Recently I have been youtube binge watching the ' Sirius Disclosure " which presents witness testimony about UFOs ( ya, I know, please don't judge.... too harshly ) . One of the reasons given by gov't etc. for not acknowledging the existence of ' others ' , is that the public would panic and there would be a mass fleeing from organized religion.

 Thought experiment. Suppose it became fully excepted and proven that extraterrestrials are around and have been here for a long time. What effect would this have on your view of religion, particularly LDS religion? For myself , I see LDS scriptures as saying there are myriad other worlds and other beings. There are quite a few other religions which deny such, and I suppose would have a harder time of it. I would still have questions about why they are allowed to interact with us and what connection they might have with God .

For those who claim the speed of light barrier would keep all ETS away, even if they exist, let's assume they are able to control the space time continuum

I like this thread of people could be more serious about it. I wonder if you have you have ever seen the movie contact with Jodie Foster and Matthew McConaughey? I'm probably showing my age but that's okay. In the movie A lot of Christians freak out over making contact people from another world. I never really understood why that would threaten someone's Christianity or their belief in God.

[Stargazer]

I don't think the existence of aliens would affect my testimony.

Unless the aliens destroy the human race.  Then I might start wondering about my position!

 

Edited April 20, 2017 by Stargazer

[waveslider]

On 4/17/2017 at 4:22 PM, strappinglad said:

Recently I have been youtube binge watching the ' Sirius Disclosure " which presents witness testimony about UFOs ( ya, I know, please don't judge.... too harshly ) . One of the reasons given by gov't etc. for not acknowledging the existence of ' others ' , is that the public would panic and there would be a mass fleeing from organized religion.

 Thought experiment. Suppose it became fully excepted and proven that extraterrestrials are around and have been here for a long time. What effect would this have on your view of religion, particularly LDS religion? For myself , I see LDS scriptures as saying there are myriad other worlds and other beings. There are quite a few other religions which deny such, and I suppose would have a harder time of it. I would still have questions about why they are allowed to interact with us and what connection they might have with God .

For those who claim the speed of light barrier would keep all ETS away, even if they exist, let's assume they are able to control the space time continuum

I would be very leery of them personally! Either it would be some Earthly government deceiving everyone so they can have more power by creating a new religion to control the masses, or it would be the same demonic deceivers that have always been warring against us since the war started in Heaven, just with a different mode of deception. Most likely it would be a combination of the two, perhaps that is what is meant by the Beast. Some kind genetic perversion of the human genome. It definitely wouldn't surprise me at all if so called, "aliens," suddenly made themselves known. It in no way, shape or form would ever shake my testimony of the gospel and true Savior of mankind.

I have seen many witness accounts that state that these alien beings are from another dimension. I have seen many accounts where they can appear as shape shifters (".....that being who beguiled our first parents, who transformeth himself nigh unto an angel of light, and stirreth up the children of men unto secret combinations of murder and all manner of secret works of darkness." 2 Nephi 9:9?). There are accounts of greys, reptilians (this category of aliens should make us think about the dragon who drew a third of the stars of heaven, and the serpent who beguiled Adam and Eve), goblins, little green men and Nordics (Angel of light?) to name a few. I truly think that these are very real, and are only Satan and his minions. Alister Crowley wrote the book on how to channel these beings from another dimension. It was borrowed heavily from when Anton LaVey wrote The Bible for the Church of Satan. Personally I think that there have been Luciferians who have channeled these demonic beings and was the inspiration for perpetuating the so called science of Evolution of species, but that is just my own opinion so I'll digress.

I'm not saying that it is definitely the case on how the end time revelations are going to run out, but it surely is a scenario that could easily fit into what we have recorded in scripture:

"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."
Matthew 24:24

"11 And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12 And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.
13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,
14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed.
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six."
Revelation 13:11-18 (bolded words added for emphasis)

At any rate. I don't think it would be healthy to embrace Aliens if they were to manifest themselves, nor try to fit them into the category of being from one of the other worlds that Heavenly Father has populated. We who have the gospel are the very elect. If something like that manifests itself it is time to rely upon the Holy Ghost to help us discern the truth, not our intellect, because our intellect will fail us, but the Holy Ghost will never fail us. Don't be deceived.

Just my two cent worth anyway.