JAHS Posted June 21, 2016 Posted June 21, 2016 According to KSL News "State officials like Gov. Gary Herbert and leaders from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are also meeting with the 80-year-old Dalai Lama in spite of a letter from a Weber State University professor who helped broker Utah's relations with China warning it could damage the state's relationship with Beijing." https://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=1016&sid=40313299&title=the-latest-dalai-lama-encourages-utah-crowd-to-build-peace
Johnnie Cake Posted June 21, 2016 Author Posted June 21, 2016 9 hours ago, gopher said: Is "wet" British slang for "baptized"? Now that would be a real story! this my friends is why you don't post with your phone...I obviously meant "Met" ...but this is a tough exacting crowd 1
Calm Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 57 minutes ago, Johnnie Cake said: ...but this is a tough exacting crowd Just easily bored and looking for entertainment in the smallest of things. 1
saemo Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 On June 20, 2016 at 9:32 PM, Johnnie Cake said: Evidentially they did meet him in 2001 but have no plans to when he comes to SLC this time .. other than a lower ranked member of the 12. But then the pope didn't meet with him either so they'd be in good company Pope Benedict XVI met with the Dalai Lama in 2006. This trip, the Nobel Prize laureates met in Rome. Pope Francis did not meet with any of the Nobel Prize laureates. The conference was originally intended to be held in South Africa but South Africa would not issue the Dalai Lama a visa, so they moved the conference to Rome.
saemo Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 9 hours ago, Jeanne said: His religion is kindness. I agree the current Dalai Lama is an ambassador for peace. Not all Lamas in Tibet have been so. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_Tibetan_Rebellion
Jeanne Posted June 22, 2016 Posted June 22, 2016 7 hours ago, saemo said: I agree the current Dalai Lama is an ambassador for peace. Not all Lamas in Tibet have been so. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_Tibetan_Rebellion Thank ;you for this info.
JAHS Posted June 23, 2016 Posted June 23, 2016 "The Dalai Lama met Wednesday morning with two high-level Mormon church authorities during the Buddhist leader's two-day visit to Utah. LDS apostle D. Todd Christofferson and fellow general authority L. Whitney Clayton greeted the Tibetan monk in a private meeting, according to a spokesman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. During a previous visit, in 2001, His Holiness the 14th Dalai Lama had an audience with the governing First Presidency of the Utah-based faith." Dalai Lama meets with two high-level Mormon church leaders
Damien the Leper Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 The Dalai Lama meeting with LDS leadership is a great act of goodwill. However, there would be nothing for him to learn from the LDS church and it's theology.
Kenngo1969 Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 11:24 AM, CV75 said: Aren't his followers called the Dalai Lamanites? [Cue rimshot] You'll be here all week, right? 2
Kenngo1969 Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 11:24 AM, CV75 said: Aren't his followers called the Dalai Lamanites? [Cue rimshot] You'll be here all week, right? 1
Kenngo1969 Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/21/2016 at 4:58 PM, JAHS said: According to KSL News "State officials like Gov. Gary Herbert and leaders from The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are also meeting with the 80-year-old Dalai Lama in spite of a letter from a Weber State University professor who helped broker Utah's relations with China warning it could damage the state's relationship with Beijing." https://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=1016&sid=40313299&title=the-latest-dalai-lama-encourages-utah-crowd-to-build-peace I don't want to reply to this post, but can't get rid of it without posting. (Sorry, JAHS ... ) Have I mentioned how much I'm loving the new Board software, lately. Arrrghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!
Kenngo1969 Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 On 6/20/2016 at 9:32 PM, Johnnie Cake said: Evidentially they did meet him in 2001 but have no plans to when he comes to SLC this time .. other than a lower ranked member of the 12. But then the pope didn't meet with him either so they'd be in good company Sorry if I sound a bit peeved, but what the crap is "a lower-ranked member of the Twelve"? Do the members of the First Presidency line up in front of the Twelve so the former can, in order of seniority, have the latter lick their shoes every time the Fifteen meet, or what? Do the "Senior Six" line up in front of the "Junior Six" at every meeting of the Twelve so that the latter can lick the shoes of the former, or what? Do the newest three do that to the senior nine, since the latter were all sustained at the same time? It seems that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints can't win no matter what it does. Half of its detractors claim that the rank-and-file is too deferential to leadership, while the other half turn their noses up and sniff at the prospect that a mere junior Apostle would meet with the Dalai Lama. When all someone wants to do is beat up on the Church of Jesus Christ, any stick'll do, I guess.
CV75 Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 28 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: [Cue rimshot] You'll be here all week, right? LOL -- there will be a cultural performance in his honor as well, singing this song: Hello Dali, ......well, hello, Dali It's so nice to have you back so bang that gong! You're lookin' swell, Dali.......I can tell, Dali You're still glowin'...you're still crowin'...you're still singin' Kang, so: Keep that room swayin'......while the band's playin' That old Tibetan song from way back when So... take his red wrap, fellas (the one with the lap that's yellow, fellas) 'Til Dali hasta go away again! 3
JAHS Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Kenngo1969 said: I don't want to reply to this post, but can't get rid of it without posting. (Sorry, JAHS ... ) Have I mentioned how much I'm loving the new Board software, lately. Arrrghhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! I know what you mean. Sometimes I will try to quote something to respond to and what gets quoted has nothing to do with what I wanted to quote. And I can't get rid of the wrong quote.
Doctor Steuss Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 (edited) On 6/21/2016 at 7:19 AM, RevTestament said: While I have great respect for the teachings of Buddha as a lifestyle, the guy thinks he is Buddha - it's just a little touched - it would be like our president claiming to be Jesus. Would people clamor to meet him then? And to think only an apostle is going to meet him - wait isn't that what the president is? Is believing you are an incarnation of the Buddha of Compassion really all that "touched" compared to believing you are the living mouthpiece for the Son of the Abrahamic God? Remember, every Sunday, members of the Church gather to symbolically cannibalize their savior. I imagine that's probably a little wacky to our friends in the East. Edited June 24, 2016 by Doctor Steuss 1
RevTestament Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 1 hour ago, Doctor Steuss said: Is believing you are an incarnation of the Buddha of Compassion really all that "touched" compared to believing you are the living mouthpiece for the Son of the Abrahamic God? Remember, every Sunday, members of the Church gather to symbolically cannibalize their savior. I imagine that's probably a little wacky to our friends in the East. Being a mouthpiece for God is not touched at all -that is how God has always spoken to man - through His prophets - NONE OF WHOM believe they are God.
Doctor Steuss Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 4 minutes ago, RevTestament said: Being a mouthpiece for God is not touched at all -that is how God has always spoken to man - through His prophets - NONE OF WHOM believe they are God. That is how the Abrahamic God has predominantly spoken to man. Other individuals' gods have chosen other routes. The only thing that makes one seem less "touched" than the other is cultural conditioning.
RevTestament Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 9 minutes ago, Doctor Steuss said: That is how the Abrahamic God has predominantly spoken to man. Other individuals' gods have chosen other routes. The only thing that makes one seem less "touched" than the other is cultural conditioning. . While I have great respect for Buddhism, Buddha taught that there is no God yet somehow came up with the idea there are powerful beings in the afterlife, and we reincarnate on this Earth - without receiving any kind of Revelation. I've never understood this. 1
Doctor Steuss Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 17 minutes ago, RevTestament said: . While I have great respect for Buddhism, Buddha taught that there is no God yet somehow came up with the idea there are powerful beings in the afterlife, and we reincarnate on this Earth - without receiving any kind of Revelation. I've never understood this. Perhaps there are degrees of Revelation... some forms being a bit more muddy than others. "it is not obnoxious to Mormonism to regard Confucius, the great Chinese philosopher and moralist, as a servant of God, inspired to a certain degree by him to teach those great moral maxims which have governed those millions of God’s children for lo! these many centuries. It is willing to regard Gautama, Buddha as an inspired servant of God, teaching a measure of the truth, at least giving to these people that twilight of truth by which they may somewhat see their way." ~B.H. Roberts Or maybe we're all just a little bit weird, and hard to understand, and that's what makes sharing this earth with each other so much fun. 1
The Nehor Posted June 24, 2016 Posted June 24, 2016 18 hours ago, Valentinus said: The Dalai Lama meeting with LDS leadership is a great act of goodwill. However, there would be nothing for him to learn from the LDS church and it's theology. I presume this is because he has somehow surpassed it in every way?
Damien the Leper Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 5 hours ago, The Nehor said: I presume this is because he has somehow surpassed it in every way? No. He just has no use for Mormonism. Mormonism is barely a blip on his radar
The Nehor Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 27 minutes ago, Valentinus said: No. He just has no use for Mormonism. Mormonism is barely a blip on his radar And the reverse is also true. Still, I suppose we can be nice. The influence of Tibetan Buddhism is probably not a regular topic of discussion in various church meetings at any level. 3
Damien the Leper Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 12 hours ago, The Nehor said: And the reverse is also true. Still, I suppose we can be nice. The influence of Tibetan Buddhism is probably not a regular topic of discussion in various church meetings at any level. Agreed. Very well said.
thesometimesaint Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 I think it is a good thing to learn about other religious faiths.
ERayR Posted June 25, 2016 Posted June 25, 2016 14 hours ago, Valentinus said: No. He just has no use for Mormonism. Mormonism is barely a blip on his radar And you know this how?
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