Duncan Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 I noticed Pres. Uchtdorf didn't sustain the new GA's into any particular quorums, are they doing away with the 1st and 2nd Quorums of the 70's and just having a schmenge of brethren now. now? Yes, I know Area Seventies aren't not General Authorities and they serve in the 3-8th quorums
Boanerges Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 (edited) Good question. I picked up on that also. As I understand it, members of the First Quorum are lifetime members (until being declared emeritus at age 70) and members of the Second Quorum serve for a limited amount of time (about 5 years). Has that changed? Or did the leadership choose not to make a distinction in this case? I did look at the GA page on LDS.org and there is no distinction made between First or Second Quorum, they're listed together as General Authority Seventies - but previous versions did make a distinction. (We're only talking GAs, here, First and Second Quorums. Area Authority Seventy serve for a limited time as well and only in their respective areas, and they have never made a point of saying which quorum they serve in.) Edited April 6, 2016 by Boanerges Added info from LDS.org 1
Doctrine 612 Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 I noticed that as well. I tried looking it up but found noting so I must use a educational guess, I think they are no longer called for time but the 1st and 2nd quorum are now one and the same. And it makes it easy to not have to call new guys every five years.
JAHS Posted April 6, 2016 Posted April 6, 2016 Looks like they are all called General Authority Seventies now. https://www.lds.org/church/leaders?lang=eng
CMZ Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 I've wondered about this, too. Scott Lloyd, do you have any insights on this?
The Nehor Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 That's it!!!! The Church is obviously false and in apostasy! I am out of here!
JAHS Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 The following link from the LDS.org website still says there are 8 quorums of the Seventy and calls them General Authority Seventies although the General Authorities chart does not identify the separate quorums. Quorums of the Seventy
Teancum Posted April 17, 2016 Posted April 17, 2016 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: That's it!!!! The Church is obviously false and in apostasy! I am out of here! Good for you! Glad you finally see the light!
CMZ Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 22 hours ago, The Nehor said: That's it!!!! The Church is obviously false and in apostasy! I am out of here! My question wasn't a testimony issue.
Scott Lloyd Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) On 4/17/2016 at 10:16 AM, CMZ said: I've wondered about this, too. Scott Lloyd, do you have any insights on this? To answer the question in the OP, no, the First and Second Quourms of the Seventy have not been discontinued. In recent days, the Church leadership has begun referring to members of those two quorums as General Authority Seventies to distinguish them from members of the Third through the Eighth Quorums of the Seventy, who are known as Area Seventies. Unless things have changed without my awareness, members of the first two quorums (General Authority Seventies) serve full time, while members of the other quorums (Area Seventies) serve part time in their callings while working full time at their occupations. Edited April 18, 2016 by Scott Lloyd
Scott Lloyd Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 On 4/6/2016 at 9:23 AM, JAHS said: Looks like they are all called General Authority Seventies now. https://www.lds.org/church/leaders?lang=eng No, not all. See my post above.
rongo Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 If the separate quorums still exist (and I think they still do), why don't they identify for the lay members which quorum they're in?
The Nehor Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, rongo said: If the separate quorums still exist (and I think they still do), why don't they identify for the lay members which quorum they're in? So the lay members do not know which Quorum directs our Danite operatives. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 12 minutes ago, The Nehor said: So the lay members do not know which Quorum directs our Danite operatives. Shh.. I almost have ALarson talked into believing there are no more Danites.
ALarson Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: Shh.. I almost have ALarson talked into believing there are no more Danites. LOL (You do have a sense of humor after all ) .. Edited April 18, 2016 by ALarson 2
Scott Lloyd Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 26 minutes ago, ALarson said: LOL (You do have a sense of humor after all ) .. You think I'm joking? How could I be doing that when I didn't put anything in "scare quotes" (cinepro's quirky rule for writing something in jest)?
ALarson Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: You think I'm joking? How could I be doing that when I didn't put anything in "scare quotes" (cinepro's quirky rule for writing something in jest)? Well, you'll have to take that up with cinepro. Your comment made me laugh, that's all I was saying.... 2
Scott Lloyd Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, ALarson said: Well, you'll have to take that up with cinepro. Your comment made me laugh, that's all I was saying.... Yeah, I too think cinepro made that rule up out of whole cloth. There really are no more Danites. Now vampires are another thing entirely. Edited April 18, 2016 by Scott Lloyd 2
Scott Lloyd Posted April 18, 2016 Posted April 18, 2016 2 hours ago, rongo said: If the separate quorums still exist (and I think they still do), why don't they identify for the lay members which quorum they're in? If you want my conjecture, I'll give it to you.
ALarson Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Yeah, I too think cinepro made that rule up out of whole cloth. Well, I didn't say that, so I'm not sure why you used the word "too"....that's between the two of you. Edited April 19, 2016 by ALarson
mfbukowski Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 On 4/6/2016 at 9:55 PM, Duncan said: I noticed Pres. Uchtdorf didn't sustain the new GA's into any particular quorums, are they doing away with the 1st and 2nd Quorums of the 70's and just having a schmenge of brethren now. now? Yes, I know Area Seventies aren't not General Authorities and they serve in the 3-8th quorums It appears you are saying there are no longer numbered quorums and then cite the third through 8 th quorum
Duncan Posted April 19, 2016 Author Posted April 19, 2016 Just now, mfbukowski said: It appears you are saying there are no longer numbered quorums and then cite the third through 8 th quorum you'll also notice that I said that they seem to have done away with the 1st and 2nd quorums of the 70 while maintaining the 3-8th and why is that? hmmmmmmmmmm?
Scott Lloyd Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 1 hour ago, ALarson said: Well, I didn't say that, so I'm not sure why you used the word "too"....that's between the two of you. I'm teasing you for amusement, ALarson. It's consistent with that sense of humor you have so newly recognized in me. 1
Johnnie Cake Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 On April 17, 2016 at 0:42 PM, The Nehor said: That's it!!!! The Church is obviously false and in apostasy! I am out of here! I'll buy your first or second or whatever beer
mfbukowski Posted April 19, 2016 Posted April 19, 2016 10 minutes ago, Johnnie Cake said: I'll buy your first or second or whatever beer As a reformed drunk, I am glad that wasn't addressed to me. Buying me a beer would not be much of a distinction.
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