Popular Post JAHS Posted October 31, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2014 The LDS Church's semiannual General Women's Meeting is now an official session of the faith's semiannual general conferences.“The First Presidency has decided that the General Women’s Meeting will be designated as the General Women’s Session of general conference," said Jessica Moody, spokeswoman for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." www.deseretnews.com/article/865614355/LDS-Church-confirms-womens-meeting-now-part-of-general-conference.html 7
Boanerges Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 I think it's great and another step in the right direction. I like to think that Pres. Uchtdorf had a hand in this, but I have no evidence of that other than his comment in the last women's meeting. 2
Buckeye Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 now just stick it on the same weekend. Where? Conference weekend is already too long. Sunday night is the only realistic slot. Or maybe alternate Priesthood session in April and Women's in October. FWIW, over the years the biggest gripe I've heard from sisters is not the name of Women's Conference but that fact that fast Sunday is moved up to that weekend so as not to interfere with General Conference, which severely limits the social (food) aspect of the meeting. For these sisters, the biggest improvement would be either moving fast sunday to the second sunday in April/October, or doing away with it entirely.
Storm Rider Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 I guess I am a really narrow minded fool. Men have a single meeting where men are asked to attend. This is not enough for women; they are different; they are more demanding, they are more special; they need an entire day that is somehow attuned tot their "special needs". What is it about women that they are so needy that they require something that requires a weekend of meetings just of them that allows them to feel special, needed, and wanted. I cannot tell you how tired I am of this entire gender issue. General Conference is not enough for women to feel satisfied; they need an entire week for themselves. Are men just so stupid they don't realize they need more or is it something else? I guess that I am a calloused, insensitive bore, that is incapable of understanding that women are so unique they need something different that is unique to themselves. Not just a single meeting is good enough, but we need to devote an entire day to their needs that are so far beyond everyone else that we just don't understand. I freely admit that I don't understand what all goes into the feminine mystique, but I can tell you that I am very tired of it. I am tired of pandering to the incessant demand that women need something more to feel special. At some point we need to look at the situation and say it is not us that is the problem. I apologize in advance; it is just a pet peeve. Women are no more spiritual, not more needy than anyone else. They are a part of the human race and I am tired of the squeaky wheel. I freely admit that I am an Neanderthal. I am not nearly as evolved as others; I don't understand how superior women are to men. I freely admit that we are different and have different callings, but I am beyond patience with the constant whining. I return you to your normal broadcasting where all is well in Zion and excuse myself from my extreme ignorance. 2
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 So I guess a semantics game was need to stop the whiners. It always has been part of GC. Ugh.
bluebell Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 now just stick it on the same weekend.Please no. That weekend is full enough. 1
Popular Post bluebell Posted October 31, 2014 Popular Post Posted October 31, 2014 I guess I am a really narrow minded fool. Men have a single meeting where men are asked to attend. This is not enough for women; they are different; they are more demanding, they are more special; they need an entire day that is somehow attuned tot their "special needs". What is it about women that they are so needy that they require something that requires a weekend of meetings just of them that allows them to feel special, needed, and wanted. I cannot tell you how tired I am of this entire gender issue. General Conference is not enough for women to feel satisfied; they need an entire week for themselves. Are men just so stupid they don't realize they need more or is it something else? I guess that I am a calloused, insensitive bore, that is incapable of understanding that women are so unique they need something different that is unique to themselves. Not just a single meeting is good enough, but we need to devote an entire day to their needs that are so far beyond everyone else that we just don't understand. I freely admit that I don't understand what all goes into the feminine mystique, but I can tell you that I am very tired of it. I am tired of pandering to the incessant demand that women need something more to feel special. At some point we need to look at the situation and say it is not us that is the problem. I apologize in advance; it is just a pet peeve. Women are no more spiritual, not more needy than anyone else. They are a part of the human race and I am tired of the squeaky wheel. I freely admit that I am an Neanderthal. I am not nearly as evolved as others; I don't understand how superior women are to men. I freely admit that we are different and have different callings, but I am beyond patience with the constant whining. I return you to your normal broadcasting where all is well in Zion and excuse myself from my extreme ignorance.I'm confused. The women's meeting is only one meeting that lasts about an hour and a half. That's it. It's not a weekend event nor something that lasts a day. What exactly is your issue again? 5
stemelbow Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Where? Conference weekend is already too long. Sunday night is the only realistic slot. Or maybe alternate Priesthood session in April and Women's in October. FWIW, over the years the biggest gripe I've heard from sisters is not the name of Women's Conference but that fact that fast Sunday is moved up to that weekend so as not to interfere with General Conference, which severely limits the social (food) aspect of the meeting. For these sisters, the biggest improvement would be either moving fast sunday to the second sunday in April/October, or doing away with it entirely. Cut it all back. It all should just be the same weekend. If it's too long, then we should address the length of it, in my mind. Why a two hour priesthood session? I'm always feeling that's way too long. I miss the first session on Saturday pretty much each conference, and just catch up with it later. Take out Saturday morning's session. Do the afternoon as the opening session, have an hour long priesthood then Women's meeting later. Start at noon or something.
bluebell Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 So I guess a semantics game was need to stop the whiners. It always has been part of GC. Ugh.It never has been in my experience. Especially considering that until last year it only happened once a year. There was no women's meeting in April. Can I get a reference supporting your assertion? 3
stemelbow Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Please no. That weekend is full enough. But it should be conference. Now it's just sitting out on its own. Cut back a session, break Saturday up. I think that'd be ideal.
Silhouette Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Storm Rider, "...an entire week for themselves"? I could certainly understand your point of view if this were actually the case, but the women's meeting is just one meeting that doesn't last more than a couple of hours, if that. Correct me if I'm wrong on this count.
bluebell Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Cut it all back. It all should just be the same weekend. If it's too long, then we should address the length of it, in my mind. Why a two hour priesthood session? I'm always feeling that's way too long. I miss the first session on Saturday pretty much each conference, and just catch up with it later. Take out Saturday morning's session. Do the afternoon as the opening session, have an hour long priesthood then Women's meeting later. Start at noon or something.I guess I don't understand the problem with having it the Saturday before. What, in your view, are we missing out on by not having all the meetings the same weekend?
stemelbow Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) I guess I don't understand the problem with having it the Saturday before. What, in your view, are we missing out on by not having all the meetings the same weekend? If it's part of conference but it's not conference weekend, then it's some outlier. Not a big deal, but if it's officially part of conference then have it be part of conference. People travel for the big event weekend. That weekend is meaningful to people because it's conference weekend. Put it together. Seems most logical to me. A couple of years ago my wife's former mission companion came to town from Panama, bringing her mom. They came on conference weekend, because that was ideal. The mom had wanted to get to Salt Lake her entire life and finally they were able. They missed the whole women's conference because it wasn't part of conference weekend. That's too bad. Edited October 31, 2014 by stemelbow
juliann Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 If it's part of conference but it's not conference weekend, then it's some outlier. Not a big deal, but if it's officially part of conference then have it be part of conference. People travel for the big event weekend. That weekend is meaningful to people because it's conference weekend. Put it together. Seems most logical to me. Good point, if they made priesthood and women's one hour it would fit. Women only get about an hour anyway, the last talk is always by a man. If it was actually part of the block, there would be enough men surrounding it that they could just have the women speakers. 1
rchorse Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 FWIW, over the years the biggest gripe I've heard from sisters is not the name of Women's Conference but that fact that fast Sunday is moved up to that weekend so as not to interfere with General Conference, which severely limits the social (food) aspect of the meeting. For these sisters, the biggest improvement would be either moving fast sunday to the second sunday in April/October, or doing away with it entirely. FWIW, that is a stake decision, not a church-wide one. Our stake always has Fast Sunday the week after General Conference to avoid having 2 Fast Sundays in the same month. 2
bluebell Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 If it's part of conference but it's not conference weekend, then it's some outlier. Not a big deal, but if it's officially part of conference then have it be part of conference. People travel for the big event weekend. That weekend is meaningful to people because it's conference weekend. Put it together. Seems most logical to me.A couple of years ago my wife's former mission companion came to town from Panama, bringing her mom. They came on conference weekend, because that was ideal. The mom had wanted to get to Salt Lake her entire life and finally they were able. They missed the whole women's conference because it wasn't part of conference weekend. That's too bad.I see what you are saying about your wife's friend, though it has not been my experience. I've travelled to SLC for conference and being there in person pretty much guaranteed I would miss other sessions. That's because it's pretty much impossible to get tickets to more than one session at a time. There aren't that many to go around and they are generally given out in such a way to allow as many people as possible to attend. Also, the travel time inevitably interfered with the Sunday afternoon session. We had to get back home before Monday. I personally would not want to trade a shorter conference (time wise) just to get the women's session in on the same weekend. I enjoy all sessions of conference and wouldn't want to lose one for logistical reasons if I didn't have to. But I understand why you feel differently.
toon Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Cut it all back. It all should just be the same weekend. If it's too long, then we should address the length of it, in my mind. Why a two hour priesthood session? I'm always feeling that's way too long. I miss the first session on Saturday pretty much each conference, and just catch up with it later. Take out Saturday morning's session. Do the afternoon as the opening session, have an hour long priesthood then Women's meeting later. Start at noon or something. I'd be in favor of the opposite, spread conference over two weekends. Or more. But only on Sunday, so we don't otherwise lose out on free time on Saturday. How much I'd love another Sunday where we didn't have to get up early, struggle with getting the kids ready, prepare lessons, help kids prepare talks, etc. Nothing beats watching conference while eating an omellette in bed. 1
omni Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 I guess I am a really narrow minded fool. Men have a single meeting where men are asked to attend. This is not enough for women; they are different; they are more demanding, they are more special; they need an entire day that is somehow attuned tot their "special needs". What is it about women that they are so needy that they require something that requires a weekend of meetings just of them that allows them to feel special, needed, and wanted. I cannot tell you how tired I am of this entire gender issue. General Conference is not enough for women to feel satisfied; they need an entire week for themselves. Are men just so stupid they don't realize they need more or is it something else? I guess that I am a calloused, insensitive bore, that is incapable of understanding that women are so unique they need something different that is unique to themselves. Not just a single meeting is good enough, but we need to devote an entire day to their needs that are so far beyond everyone else that we just don't understand. I freely admit that I don't understand what all goes into the feminine mystique, but I can tell you that I am very tired of it. I am tired of pandering to the incessant demand that women need something more to feel special. At some point we need to look at the situation and say it is not us that is the problem. I apologize in advance; it is just a pet peeve. Women are no more spiritual, not more needy than anyone else. They are a part of the human race and I am tired of the squeaky wheel. I freely admit that I am an Neanderthal. I am not nearly as evolved as others; I don't understand how superior women are to men. I freely admit that we are different and have different callings, but I am beyond patience with the constant whining. I return you to your normal broadcasting where all is well in Zion and excuse myself from my extreme ignorance.Wow, I honestly didn't think one person would be upset with this decision, but I stand corrected.
Buckeye Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Wow, I honestly didn't think one person would be upset with this decision, but I stand corrected. Read the comments on the Deseret News article.
Buckeye Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 ... I freely admit that I don't understand what all goes into the feminine mystique, but I can tell you that I am very tired of it. ... The cure for your lack of understanding is to read the book: http://www.amazon.com/Feminine-Mystique-50th-Anniversary/dp/0393346781/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414780093&sr=1-1&keywords=feminine+mystique
JAHS Posted October 31, 2014 Author Posted October 31, 2014 I think because of the traveling concerns it would be better to have it on the same weekend.Replace the second Saturday General session with the Women's session.That gives time for the women to get back home or hotel and for the men to go to the priesthood session.
Scott Lloyd Posted October 31, 2014 Posted October 31, 2014 Actually, I think it a misnomer to apply the term "general" to either the women's meeting or the priesthood session. If one or the other sex is excluded, it is not by definition a general session.
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