sheilauk Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 I agree that sweets & treats should not be given out every week, in any class except nursery & in fact last year our Stake presidency specifically told all the leaders & teachers that they should not & that has prettyMuch stopped it. Lessons can be made interesting without the need for treats. It does put pressure on other teachers. And I have taught nursery, primary, YW & adults. The primary children do have a drink & biscuit(cookie) in a break between class & sharing time. Every few months, after the end of the three hours we do have a ward "munch & mingle" when people bring a dish & there is an opportunity to socialise. So far, it happens too rarely to seem to have gotten out of hand!
rpn Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 There is research that says that constant rewards is less effective at changing behavior that infrequent rewards. More importantly, while an occasional reward (not bribe) for acting appropriately can help some, the gospel is supposed to be about internal rewards. I hope every teacher who uses them talkes to the class about getting from where we do things for external rewards and moving to where we do them for love of God, and respect for others and ourselves.
Duncan Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 There is research that says that constant rewards is less effective at changing behavior that infrequent rewards. More importantly, while an occasional reward (not bribe) for acting appropriately can help some, the gospel is supposed to be about internal rewards. I hope every teacher who uses them talkes to the class about getting from where we do things for external rewards and moving to where we do them for love of God, and respect for others and ourselves.constant rewards is part of why addictions are so hard to give up! it's a given that when you do X then you'll get Y. It's like in seminary, friday's attendance jumped because every friday we got doughnuts.
Smackat Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 This is one of my pet peeves in church and other arenas (school teachers that give out candy). A few years ago when I was in the Primary presidency the manuals specifically stated that treats should not be given in classes. There are too many kids with health issues and allergies to really make it safe. I have two kids with type 1 diabetes that have to get insulin when they eat. There is nothing more frustrating than having my kids come home from church all messed up and having to spend hours getting them back under control and feeling good because some teacher thinks buying the kids love by being the person with the coolest treats is more important than following the church's guidelines or taking kids health issues seriously. Our Bishop also hands out candy every week after church to get the kids to come by his office and say "hi". This started out as a special great for those kids who gave talks and prayer in Primary, and slowly morphed into every kid getting it every week. In Relief Society we had a teacher start bringing treats her one week of the month, so the. All the other teachers started to feel like they had to bring them also. It became so expected that subs would feel inadequate if they didn't have time to make or money to make or go buy treats. At first it was something simple that would get passed around once and be done. After a while the treats would be phased around over and over until they were gone or the lesson was over. One week the Stake RS President was visiting, she noticed that sisters were paying more attention to and caring about the treats more than the lesson. It was very distracting. After that we had to stop the treats. And guess what? Our sisters still all come each week. Now treats are a rare occasion, but when it does happen they are special. In full disclosure, I was guilty of sometimes putting as much effort into the treats I would bring as my lesson, and was probably one of the most vocal complainers because I really do enjoy my treats, but I also understood the problems they were causing and can see how much better our classrooms is now without the distraction. Does anyone really wonder why we are having an obesity epidemic with our children when they are constantly being given treats just for being where they are suppose to be. Occasional treats when they can be related to the lesson or for a holiday are ok. It's the every week or day for no real reason that bug me.
Questing Beast Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 I would like our teachers to bring treats on a weekly basis. But then, I don't have an uncontrollable temptation to overeat especially sweets....
volgadon Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Wow, this would be a great time to socialize with the ward members too! I can't believe you've been allowed to do this. I would think it would have to be ok'd first. In GD yesterday they mentioned how the church needs to stay the same throughout. But it would be so nice to have something like this!!! I remember when we had a time right after SM where we would practice singing hymns. But this was eliminated. I vote this to be put into place. Is there a way to get it going? How did your ward? Too many questions sorry, I just can't get over how cool it would be!!!Those are wonderful, but it would be best to hold them after the block. 1
TAO Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 (edited) Guilty here. I'm not a teacher, but I'm in a class that the tradition is to bring treats every week. =p Edited January 1, 2013 by TAO
blackstrap Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Try bringing plain tofu.That should really make you popular with the youth.
cinepro Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 From what I can tell, treats are epidemic in my ward's Young Women's program. Heaven help the young women's teacher that forgets to bring fresh baked goodies!
mathonihah Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Change of subject: what have the Brethren laid out for us when the current "Teachings of the Presidents if the Church" series of manuals runs out? After the teachings of every prophet of this dispensation has been turned into a book (and there aren't many more left), what are we going to do next? Are we going to start all over, or start a new series like the "Teachings of the Apostles," or are they going to do something radically different—which may include giving us treats as well!
Tacenda Posted January 1, 2013 Author Posted January 1, 2013 Change of subject: what have the Brethren laid out for us when the current "Teachings of the Presidents if the Church" series of manuals runs out? After the teachings of every prophet of this dispensation has been turned into a book (and there aren't many more left), what are we going to do next? Are we going to start all over, or start a new series like the "Teachings of the Apostles," or are they going to do something radically different—which may include giving us treats as well! You can't change the subject, this is my thread! (Just kiddin') How about teachings of Jesus? Just the other day when cleaning out a closet I found a very old Sunday School Primary Manual called "A Child's Life of our Savior" by WM A. Morton that belonged to my ancestor. I couldn't see a date because some pages were torn. I started another thread not too long ago, asking why we couldn't have something like the teachings of the Saviour like we do "The Teachings of the Prophets". And so weird that I came across this later. I think it would be an awesome thing. Especially after reading through the book!
ERayR Posted January 1, 2013 Posted January 1, 2013 Change of subject: what have the Brethren laid out for us when the current "Teachings of the Presidents if the Church" series of manuals runs out? After the teachings of every prophet of this dispensation has been turned into a book (and there aren't many more left), what are we going to do next? Are we going to start all over, or start a new series like the "Teachings of the Apostles," or are they going to do something radically different—which may include giving us treats as well! That is still a few years off yet. I'm sure with a little effort they can come up with something.
canard78 Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 Nursery should have treats every Sunday but every class shouldn't be treated like a nursery class.Treats? Or a healthy half-time snack to keep their tiny stomachs going? Ours got water and sliced apple/grapes when they were nursery age. My daughter gets in a real flap if she's forgotten her scriptures as only those with their scriptures get a sweet treat.
The Nehor Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Jesus set the example by feeding the multitude. So treats are good......but only if it is bread and dried fish. Go and do thou likewise. 1
Calm Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 I used weekly goals with class parties as rewards, rarely brought treats unless they were part of a lesson due to our leaders asking us not to.
Hayds Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 As I cleaned out the pockets of my 15 yr. olds Sunday pants, & pulled out candy wrappers, a weekly occurence, or whenever I wash the pants, it made me think back to the problem at hand. That of giving treats on Sunday to get the kids to listen. Or adults, I attended a Marriage class with my husband where we'd get a treat each week. Am I being a downer if I disagree? Shouldn't children or adults for that matter, want to be good and listen for no other reason but that it's the right thing to do. Not for a reward? Besides we are told constantly not to bring treats for the class, but no one listens. My ward is terrible despite being alot of fun and generous too. But it's setting a precedent for all the teacher's that come after because the kids expect it now. My 20 yr. old son taught the 11-12 yr. olds and he had to bring a treat or else!Is this a problem in any of your wards?How long have you been a member of the LDS church? Are you just now learning that sweet and sugary treats and baked goods are inherently tied to every aspect and activity of Mormonism?
Tacenda Posted January 3, 2013 Author Posted January 3, 2013 Member all my life, first time to complain to anyone outside my family for fear I might get run out of town.
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