MustardSeed

I can certainly appreciate the sentiment. I agree totally that there is no limits to us being Christlike. Certainly don’t need calling to reinforce our devotion.. That said, within the church, there is a tremendous social pressure to serve. I think every Christmas autobiography we received in the form of a Christmas card indicated what people’s callings were. also, I don’t think it’s wrong to want to contribute in a concrete and visible way to whatever organization one is invested in. But to your point, there is plenty of opportunity to serve the Lord every minute of the day in every interaction we have.

I was going to say this. My sister carries a hand gun as does the female singer in our band. if one goes to or is near a protest are they looking for trouble? If one assists a woman who has been thrust to the ground, are they a trouble maker? I’d need more information.

By virtue of the fact that the original question here in this thread did not identify the ward members in question as being criminals but rather just being undocumented suggests a mindset that people have that is concerning to me. I also do not trust a word coming out of the ICE organization itself nor do I trust our administration. Particularly not on this issue.

It’s important to keep in mind in these conversations that being in this country without legal documentation is not actually a crime in most cases. But the way ICE appears to be treating people is as though they are the worst of criminals.

Best advice I ever got: it’s ok to be a little bit hungry. always leave the last bite on the plate. and just keep going with that exercise until it no longer has to be a decision.

Bank robbers generally get due process.

It has never occurred to me to report in or out of church. I can’t imagine doing such a thing. I can only think of maybe one person in my world who might. 😕

I just hope we can hold on to some of the other changes pres Nelson initiated. I don’t care about the name but you can pry 2 hour church and my slip from my cold dead hands 😂

It appears he likes to fantasize that we are all going to be discovered wrong and he is going to be discovered right. It’s an interesting way of viewing the world. Very black and white.

Thanks for posting - I’m not a super fan but I can see why some folks would be excited about this type of thing.

As with everything else in life, do what seems right to you and God, be honest with yourself, and it will all work out.

Obviously, it would feel better to have no issues of trust. I would much rather be married to somebody who always followed through with what they promised than somebody who was wrong or who changed their mind or who made mistakes. It would be an easier ride that’s for sure. Where might I find a spouse like that?

Merry Christmas indeed! I hope you and all feel loved and safe and closer to God on this special week.

I’m still here.

I’m not sure how you define that, or where the problem lies for you. But I will tell you that my husband‘s a very happy man. 😉

We as a people need to catch up with God. We absolutely get in our own way.

Just a suggestion here, always ID an opinion as such I’ve found it to be very helpful both as a poster and as a reader.

I don’t necessarily see any distinction. The church likes to say same sex attraction, instead of anything else. I think the church is fairly uncomfortable using common colloquialisms. I think if there was any other word for pornography they would use that as well.

One would think. But this is a very complicated religion, even though we like to think it’s very simple. The gospel is simple, but the religion is not. We are entrenched in a lot of rich history, heavy expectations, family, pressures, etc. Sometimes belief is layered underneath a lot of things.

If a young woman is widowed and it is difficult for her to find a new partner who is willing to get married outside the temple, I would say that our policies of today have an impact on us today. This is just one example. I also believe that ritual, tradition, symbolism, etc. has a significant impact on one’s view of the self and even of their relationship. I believe that our practices around sealings speak volumes to a lot of people and has an impact on how we experience this earthly life. I’m less concerned about eternity because I agree with you, we know absolutely nothing.

You don’t agree with my displeasure - I’m assuming you agree with the fact that we still practice presently through our temple activity.

Since so much of religion is determining what is right and what is wrong, it doesn’t seem like much of a leap to me to identify a behavior which a church condones supports or otherwise, as being wrong and therefore a reason to decide that the church is off base. My understanding is that we (the church) still support polygamy and the imbalances that come from it in our temple practices. I don’t see polygamy as strictly historical. I see it as past present and future in various forms.

Why can’t two or three prophets be wrong? If one can be?

“Proof to me”

But what a ripple. We believe that God will move mountains to obtain His objective, which is to redeem mankind. But this issue has denigrated us and lost so many. Seems to me to be a man’s error, and proof to me that God isn’t always in the details. Where might we be today, had Joseph not been so curious about Abraham’s lifestyle?