Ruby Franke Arrested On Child Abuse Charges

[Tacenda]

Wondered if anyone agrees with Adam Paul Steed, or agree partly with what he's saying how the church was part of the problem with it's connections with Jodi Hildebrandt. He was quite condemning of the church yesterday on the steps of the courthouse immediately following the verdict on how much time Jodi and Ruby will serve which was 1 to 15 years, 4 times consecutively. Adam stepped up to the mic right after both defendant lawyers spoke along with the prosecutor who mentioned that Jodi and Ruby had religious extremist's ideas. I heard that Jodi professed to speak with God as well, which rings close to Lori and Chad Daybell.

I wanted to share this youtube by Hidden Crime because Adam says the same things in this interview as he did yesterday when he grabbed the mic, which wasn't planned, he just rushed up there and grabbed the mic to get his message out to the media. 

 

Edited February 21, 2024 by Tacenda

[Calm]

43 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

mentioned that Jodi and Ruby had religious extremist's ideas

Religious extremists are called extremists for a reason….

[bluebell]

1 hour ago, Tacenda said:

Wondered if anyone agrees with Adam Paul Steed, or agree partly with what he's saying how the church was part of the problem with it's connections with Jodi Hildebrandt. He was quite condemning of the church yesterday on the steps of the courthouse immediately following the verdict on how much time Jodi and Ruby will serve which was 1 to 15 years, 4 times consecutively. Adam stepped up to the mic right after both defendant lawyers spoke along with the prosecutor who mentioned that Jodi and Ruby had religious extremist's ideas. I heard that Jodi professed to speak with God as well, which rings close to Lori and Chad Daybell.

I wanted to share this youtube by Hidden Crime because Adam says the same things in this interview as he did yesterday when he grabbed the mic, which wasn't planned, he just rushed up there and grabbed the mic to get his message out to the media. 

 

Who is Adam Steed and how is he connected to the case?

[Tacenda]

1 hour ago, bluebell said:

Who is Adam Steed and how is he connected to the case?

He was a victim along with ? (tons) of clients that Jodi practically destroyed. 

[bluebell]

15 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

He was a victim along with ? (tons) of clients that Jodi practically destroyed. 

A child victim from a while ago or was he an adult victim?

 

[Tacenda]

12 minutes ago, bluebell said:

A child victim from a while ago or was he an adult victim?

 

Adult, it started with marriage counseling. And the problem of being abused by a scout leader in his youth. She turned the tables on him and made him out to be the problem. She's horrendous. Here's a tik tok version of him on the court steps yesterday and he spells it all out there. 

 

Edited February 21, 2024 by Tacenda

[Calm]

Did Steed share details on how the Church “weaponized” Hildebrant?  I am struggling to come up with anything that could mean.

Edited February 22, 2024 by Calm

[bluebell]

35 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Adult, it started with marriage counseling. And the problem of being abused by a scout leader in his youth. She turned the tables on him and made him out to be the problem. She's horrendous. Here's a tik tok version of him on the court steps yesterday and he spells it all out there. 

 

Yes, she sounds like a horrible person and horrendous therapist/counselor.  Is he laying the blame for his problems at the church's feet because they recommended her?

[Tacenda]

26 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Yes, she sounds like a horrible person and horrendous therapist/counselor.  Is he laying the blame for his problems at the church's feet because they recommended her?

I think he's speaking for all of those that were sent to her through the church, but not full blame no.

[bluebell]

7 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

I think he's speaking for all of those that were sent to her through the church, but not full blame no.

I wonder if the church has a vetting process for which therapists they recommend.

[Tacenda]

55 minutes ago, Calm said:

Did Steed share details on how the Church “weaponized” Hildebrant?  I am struggling to come up with anything that could mean.

Looking into it Calm.

[Calm]

50 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Looking into it Calm.

Thanks.  

[MustardSeed]

1 hour ago, bluebell said:

I wonder if the church has a vetting process for which therapists they recommend.

This case may influence one but as a therapist I have been referred to by bishops who either knew me personally or who heard about me.  
 

LDS social services carries a list of local therapists under categories of speciality (mine is affair repair, for example) for which I was lightly interviewed by the local social services guy in charge. 

[Tacenda]

3 hours ago, Calm said:

Did Steed share details on how the Church “weaponized” Hildebrant?  I am struggling to come up with anything that could mean.

I PM'd you, but it has something to do with Hildebrandt having Adam kicked out of BYU. Here's an article in People magazine: https://people.com/woman-charged-with-ruby-franke-broke-confidentiality-7966465#:~:text=During that time%2C Steed says,his banishment from church services. Since Adam was a whistleblower about sexual abuse happening in the boy scouts and the coverups. Adam feels the church used Jodi to make Adam look less credible. 

Edited February 22, 2024 by Tacenda

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Tacenda said:

Adam feels the church used Jodi to make Adam look less credible. 

Did someone in the Church leadership seek out Hildebrandt and tell her to inform on Steed or what?  Any suggestion on what someone in leadership did?  Or is he saying BYU overreacted to her info and kicked him out to discredit him.

Someone doesn’t get banished from church services without it being something disruptive….unless he means not being allowed to go to the temple.

He says she shared confidential info, not that the info was wrong, so it doesn’t seem he is accusing her of lying.

Just in case anyone thinks I think it okay for Hildebrant to break confidence, I definitely do not ( without the usual qualification of harming oneself or others and anything required by law).  
 

Do I think BYU Honor Code should use that info?  If it was something like him physically or sexually assaulting someone in the past, I don’t have a problem with it.  Something criminal where no one was physically hurt besides the lightening of their pocket book, I think I need more details such as if he tried to repair any harm.  If something like consensual extramarital sex…I think I am against it or cheating on a test.

Edited February 22, 2024 by Calm

[Teancum]

18 hours ago, bluebell said:

Yes, she sounds like a horrible person and horrendous therapist/counselor.  Is he laying the blame for his problems at the church's feet because they recommended her?

I have only loosely followed this but the claim is she was highly recommended by many church leaders to their members that needed counseling.

 

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Teancum said:

I have only loosely followed this but the claim is she was highly recommended by many church leaders to their members that needed counseling.

 

I find it weird they managed to be so popular on the Internet.  Did they start out okay and then veered into madness and unfortunately hid it well enough that bishops were still recommending her past what should have been her expiration date or did they always manage to hide the twistedness?

Edited February 22, 2024 by Calm

[Tacenda]

This was put out a short time ago if anyone is interested:

 

[Tacenda]

20/20 is doing a show on Ruby and Jodi. It's showing never before seen scenes. It's enough to make you sick. It's on at this moment. I had no idea it was so bad, just started and already it's shown the two children, and their condition. And the arrest with Jodi and Ruby. The church is being mentioned, with Patrick Mason being interviewed. Just now it showed the children's bodies. Bones are protruding on the back of the boy. Marks have covered their bodies. Where the duck tape is there is gouged flesh, with plastic wrap that is covering the cayenne pepper and honey I believe. When the police arrive Eve is in a closet and just sits cross legged in the dark. Ruby and her are like they are in a trance while being spoken to. Especially with Ruby in the police station. I keep editing as I watch. But will stop here.

Edited March 23, 2024 by Tacenda

[sunstoned]

I had to turn it off.  The senes showing the children were just just shocking and heartbreaking.

[MustardSeed]

Audio of her making calls from prison talking about making money from prison and being misunderstood by the public not realizing how children can be evil- 

WITAH

[Tacenda]

9 hours ago, MustardSeed said:

Audio of her making calls from prison talking about making money from prison and being misunderstood by the public not realizing how children can be evil- 

WITAH

Watching a youtube with the hosts reading Ruby's journal. Wow, no words. I guess Jodi was looking at land in Arizona and they were going to move with the children and in Ruby's words, "drop them like hot potatoes" there. Ruby writes of visions or something from the Lord that Jodi is receiving. They believe the children are of the devil. This reeks of "Chad Daybell" actions. Last year in May, Jodi received a blessing from the temple president. And they met with Brad Wilcox too. So they were obsessed with church things like the temple just like Lori Daybell was. Plus, Jodi was a speaker with Chad at one of the AVOW conferences awhile back so I wonder if Visions of Glory was coming through in their hideous actions. They are using the Lord as an excuse to injure these children since they think they are possessed by the devil. They brainwashed the children to think they were the devil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgHQlDoj6Bg

 

Edited March 23, 2024 by Tacenda

[bluebell]

2 hours ago, Tacenda said:

Watching a youtube with the hosts reading Ruby's journal. Wow, no words. I guess Jodi was looking at land in Arizona and they were going to move with the children and in Ruby's words, "drop them like hot potatoes" there. Ruby writes of visions or something from the Lord that Jodi is receiving. They believe the children are of the devil. This reeks of "Chad Daybell" actions. Last year in May, Jodi received a blessing from the temple president. And they met with Brad Wilcox too. So they were obsessed with church things like the temple just like Lori Daybell was. Plus, Jodi was a speaker with Chad at one of the AVOW conferences awhile back so I wonder if Visions of Glory was coming through in their hideous actions. They are using the Lord as an excuse to injure these children since they think they are possessed by the devil. They brainwashed the children to think they were the devil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgHQlDoj6Bg

 

So much evil coming from members of that relatively small group (AVOW).  

[bluebell]

14 hours ago, Tacenda said:

20/20 is doing a show on Ruby and Jodi. It's showing never before seen scenes. It's enough to make you sick. It's on at this moment. I had no idea it was so bad, just started and already it's shown the two children, and their condition. And the arrest with Jodi and Ruby. The church is being mentioned, with Patrick Mason being interviewed. Just now it showed the children's bodies. Bones are protruding on the back of the boy. Marks have covered their bodies. Where the duck tape is there is gouged flesh, with plastic wrap that is covering the cayenne pepper and honey I believe. When the police arrive Eve is in a closet and just sits cross legged in the dark. Ruby and her are like they are in a trance while being spoken to. Especially with Ruby in the police station. I keep editing as I watch. But will stop here.

Thanks for the heads up.  I'll have to watch it.

[bsjkki]

Evil stuff. The video of the kids is just awful. The neighbor choking up on the 911 call. 😩
 

Those kids would have died. The journal entries…