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I have only recently been aware of this LDS sister; does anybody know how active she is? I've been seeing a lot of images of her and her family posing in front of various temples and ward buildings recently. It would appear that there is a second LDS sister who is also being charged. When I have more information, I'll be sure to share it here. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Sara H said:

I have only recently been aware of this LDS sister; does anybody know how active she is? I've been seeing a lot of images of her and her family posing in front of various temples and ward buildings recently. It would appear that there is a second LDS sister who is also being charged. When I have more information, I'll be sure to share it here. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Sara H said:

I have only recently been aware of this LDS sister; does anybody know how active she is? I've been seeing a lot of images of her and her family posing in front of various temples and ward buildings recently. It would appear that there is a second LDS sister who is also being charged. When I have more information, I'll be sure to share it here. 

 

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/01/1197289217/ruby-franke-utah-youtube-child-abuse

The founder of the company, Jodi Hildebrandt, is a therapist who had her license suspended in 2012 after she disclosed a patient's "porn addiction" to his Mormon church leaders, The Salt Lake Tribune reported.

Also, heresay, bishops referred members to Jodi who was most likely on the LDS family services list. (heard on a podcast).

Ruby Franke is obviously LDS and married to Kevin who was or is a BYU Engineering Professor, but FB profile says his Youtuber as well. Both of their parents are very active LDS and Ruby's parents are currently serving a humanitarian LDS misson. Sad for them to now have a daughter arrested even if she deserved to be. Kevin's FB background photo is of the Provo temple. Ruby's maiden name is Griffiths and she and her family have a vlog. Here's a youtube of her parents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNJnGtB2K3I

And a whole bunch of videos on their vlog called: 

Grandma and Grandpa Griffiths

I'm currently listening to a podcast that has more to go with info but I will edit and add if needed. 

ETA: In Ruby's FB profile it states she's in a relationship with Jodi.

 
 
 
 
 
 
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5 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/01/1197289217/ruby-franke-utah-youtube-child-abuse

The founder of the company, Jodi Hildebrandt, is a therapist who had her license suspended in 2012 after she disclosed a patient's "porn addiction" to his Mormon church leaders, The Salt Lake Tribune reported.

Also, heresay, bishops referred members to Jodi who was most likely on the LDS family services list. (heard on a podcast).

Ruby Franke is obviously LDS and married to Kevin who was or is a BYU Engineering Professor, but FB profile says his Youtuber as well. Both of their parents are very active LDS and Ruby's parents are currently serving a humanitarian LDS misson. Sad for them to now have a daughter arrested even if she deserved to be. Kevin's FB background photo is of the Provo temple. Ruby's maiden name is Griffiths and she and her family have a vlog. Here's a youtube of her parents:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNJnGtB2K3I

And a whole bunch of videos on their vlog called: 

Grandma and Grandpa Griffiths

I'm currently listening to a podcast that has more to go with info but I will edit and add if needed. 

I'm probably listening to the same podcast as you, I'll be done by tomorrow. 

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1 hour ago, Sara H said:

I'm probably listening to the same podcast as you, I'll be done by tomorrow. 

Maybe, there sure is tons of social media out there reporting on this case.

ETA: There's this youtube with Ruby's mother on her mom's vlog. She's babysitting the kids while Ruby and Kevin are out of town. The children seem sad at times, but not sure, kind of feel bad like I'm sharing something private, but it's a vlog I guess. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wIlGIPlUFE

 

ETA: Here is a current reddit thread that will probably share a lot all in one place:

https://www.reddit.com/r/8passengersnark/

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He is no longer a BYU prof, apparently gone this spring. 
 

His rate a professor has some concerning stuff on it, but I have seen what upset students will write and it is not always accurate. There were some positive students as well. However, it echoes that way his estranged wife acted, so I see it as more likely than not. 

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1 hour ago, Tacenda said:

there sure is tons of social media out there reporting on this case.

She and the group has been a source of concern online for years from what I see.  Online train wreck. Started out decently in 2015, which is probably why she had so many followers, but started deteriorating within five years. I saw one claim that it was Hildebrant that led her off track. 
 

Given she cut off all contact with her and his families because they were contaminating her kids and several of her other views, I would not be surprised to hear she had stopped attending and was homechurching or had gotten involved in some of the more extreme groups.  She does not seem like someone who would keep her mouth shut nor want to associate with those who disagreed with her. 

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16 minutes ago, katherine the great said:

I’m surprised the husband wasn’t arrested too. How could this have gone on without his approval or at least knowledge? Or maybe was he one of those who reported her?

She kicked him out a year ago.  The really bad stuff might have happened afterwards.  The eldest son went with him.  Perhaps the younger kids had learned to keep their mouths shut and didn’t tell him the worse.  But one neighbour reported the girls wandering the neighborhood during the day looking for other kids to play with (they were in school).

CPS had investigated her I think 2 years ago or back in 2020, so perhaps she had agree to a certain standard and he believed she was sticking to it.

Reading and listening to a couple of sites that kept an eye on her, everyone kept repeating the same three or four offenses, so it may not have been a constant craziness, at least not one that was documented.

However, having said that, I think the probability of him not being aware is low and the only reason he wasn’t arrested is his neglect didn’t get to criminal.  Duct taping and malnourishment could have been a recent thing.

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2 hours ago, Calm said:

She kicked him out a year ago.  The really bad stuff might have happened afterwards.  The eldest son went with him.  Perhaps the younger kids had learned to keep their mouths shut and didn’t tell him the worse.  But one neighbour reported the girls wandering the neighborhood during the day looking for other kids to play with (they were in school).

CPS had investigated her I think 2 years ago or back in 2020, so perhaps she had agree to a certain standard and he believed she was sticking to it.

Reading and listening to a couple of sites that kept an eye on her, everyone kept repeating the same three or four offenses, so it may not have been a constant craziness, at least not one that was documented.

However, having said that, I think the probability of him not being aware is low and the only reason he wasn’t arrested is his neglect didn’t get to criminal.  Duct taping and malnourishment could have been a recent thing.

Wow. People are capable of the strangest things… 😥

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 Don't know how truthful this is but a video of a cousin, voice is masked along with the distorted picture. I guess this abuse is generational according to the cousin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3Nc8n_k4TABut I see where Ruby gets this now. As I have been watching the youtube of Ruby's parents that have a lot of subscribers. There is one where her mother, Jennifer, talks about laying by a toilet when she had been sick at night. So that's where Ruby got this notion to do this. I wonder if Jennifer was taught that when she was a child. Somewhat like this cousin talks about with things handed down. ETA: I've got too much time on my hands and have watched several outtakes of Ruby's videos and several of her children got sick and sleeping overnight at the toilet. This just sounds so uncomfortable for a sick child or adult to do. I grew up with a big bowl next to me as a child and I passed that down to my own children. 

Hopefully the child rearing abuses will be nipped in the bud with Ruby's children. Also, I don't like the fact that Kevin is not staying in touch with the children when they were left alone while Ruby was with Jodi in St. George according to this KSL newscast. 

https://www.ksl.com/article/50724629/concerns-about-ruby-frankes-children-reported-to-police-dcfs-more-than-a-year-ago

I'm torn in two about how to feel about the Griffiths. For the most part I think they're fine and a lovely family. Here's a video toward the end with Ruby's whole family. The kids are super cute, and super hyper and at the end Jennifer asks Ruby if it's time to go home yet, lol. ETA: I'm thinking that the Griffiths didn't abuse their children, so I didn't want to put off like I thought they did. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

rs. There is one where her mother, Jennifer, talks about laying by a toilet when she had been sick at night. So that's where Ruby got this notion to do this. I wonder if Jennifer was taught that when she was a child. Somewhat like this cousin talks about with things handed down. 

I have lain by the toilet all night when I was vomiting.  It was just more convenient, especially with vertigo when movement was setting off the heaving.  I am not sure that is an issue.  Forcing a kid to do so is different.  Used towels as pillows, pads, and blankets (we have big bath sheets).

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1 hour ago, Calm said:

I have lain by the toilet all night when I was vomiting.  It was just more convenient, especially with vertigo when movement was setting off the heaving.  I am not sure that is an issue.  Forcing a kid to do so is different.  Used towels as pillows, pads, and blankets (we have big bath sheets).

Yes, before I saw this I did edit to add that it might just be how we grew up too. I understand why you would Calm, especially with vertigo. :( 

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1 hour ago, Calm said:

I have lain by the toilet all night when I was vomiting.  It was just more convenient, especially with vertigo when movement was setting off the heaving.  I am not sure that is an issue.  Forcing a kid to do so is different.  Used towels as pillows, pads, and blankets (we have big bath sheets).

I did too.  Asked my husband if he thought it was odd and he said no.  For both of us it was for those nights where you are so sick that it is about all you can do. So glad I haven't needed to do it here in AZ though as we have tile instead of linoleum. 

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6 minutes ago, Rain said:

I did too.  Asked my husband if he thought it was odd and he said no.  For both of us it was for those nights where you are so sick that it is about all you can do. So glad I haven't needed to do it here in AZ though as we have tile instead of linoleum. 

That's bad that I jump to conclusions, I guess I've never been sick enough to sleep next to the toilet. Just run to the toilet. And also, I rarely throw up, so what do I know.

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1 hour ago, Tacenda said:

That's bad that I jump to conclusions, I guess I've never been sick enough to sleep next to the toilet. Just run to the toilet. And also, I rarely throw up, so what do I know.

Be grateful for your ignorance on this topic, lol.  I won’t hold it against you.  :) Thankfully before and after the worse of the vertigo I rarely threw up and even with the vertigo I got the hang of it pretty quickly to avoid the nastiness.  I have been able to avoid it completely for maybe two years now as long as I sleep only on my right side and don’t bend over for too long or try back stroking in the pool.  I think of myself like a snow globe, only I am trying not to disturb the little flakes, lol.

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2 hours ago, Dario_M said:

Oh my oh my... again a child abuse case??? I hear so many of them. That's really desturbing if you ask me. I find it disturbing because it happends so aften it seems like. 

Just think of all the ones we don’t hear about because not a celebrity or otherwise noteworthy.  And too many you can’t do much about it but watch the train wreck of the children’s lives happen as they grow up because it’s verbal abuse and CPS can’t do anything about that nor can anyone else except to offer a safe place if the kids decide to run.  So heartbreaking.

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10 hours ago, Calm said:

I have lain by the toilet all night when I was vomiting.  It was just more convenient, especially with vertigo when movement was setting off the heaving.  I am not sure that is an issue.  Forcing a kid to do so is different.  Used towels as pillows, pads, and blankets (we have big bath sheets).

I have too. Lots of times as an adult.  

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20 hours ago, Calm said:

Just think of all the ones we don’t hear about because not a celebrity or otherwise noteworthy.  And too many you can’t do much about it but watch the train wreck of the children’s lives happen as they grow up because it’s verbal abuse and CPS can’t do anything about that nor can anyone else except to offer a safe place if the kids decide to run.  So heartbreaking.

Yes it is isn't it. 😓

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Jodi took down this family, somewhat like Chad Daybell took down Lori, but both Lori and Ruby are to blame too. She claims she's had visions and in one of them she was told about distortions. She spoke at a conference called EternalCore, they link to the conference below the video. They discuss what horrible things Jodi told her clients. She'd even make the victim believe they were the offender. She's some kind of awful, the worst.  In the links is one of her at the conference. She's an idiot, too bad people couldn't see through her.

 

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On 9/9/2023 at 9:51 PM, Tacenda said:

Jodi took down this family, somewhat like Chad Daybell took down Lori, but both Lori and Ruby are to blame too. She claims she's had visions and in one of them she was told about distortions. She spoke at a conference called EternalCore, they link to the conference below the video. They discuss what horrible things Jodi told her clients. She'd even make the victim believe they were the offender. She's some kind of awful, the worst.  In the links is one of her at the conference. She's an idiot, too bad people couldn't see through her.

 

Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can convince me that I deserved it.

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