pogi Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Some chronic illnesses permit a measure of routine activity. But I remain hopeful. Is this related to a chronic illness?
Scott Lloyd Posted June 21, 2020 Author Posted June 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, pogi said: Is this related to a chronic illness? I don’t know. No one has said. Just that he underwent diagnostic tests.
Popular Post Robert F. Smith Posted June 22, 2020 Popular Post Posted June 22, 2020 When I visited BYU in the early 1970s for research purposes, I was not very impressed with Pres Holland. I even told some people that he wasn't very good at running BYU. In the summer of 1983, I returned to Provo to do some heavy research over an extended period of years. I heard that Hugh Nibley was going to address the August 1983 graduation exercises in the Marriott Center, so showed up for that event. Some General Authorities were on the dais behind the lectern, and Pres Holland introduced Prof Nibley. Holland's intro was brilliant and funny, perfectly capturing the living Nibley legend. I realized then that I had vastly underestimated him, and everything he has said and done since then has impressed me all the more -- to the point that I am now embarrassed at having bad-mouthed him back in the day. I always look forward to his strong and thoughtful sermons at Conference time. I sure hope to see him at October Conference this year. 9
Damien the Leper Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 I'm curious. Will the semi-annual conference in October be held in the same manner as the annual April conference?
ksfisher Posted June 23, 2020 Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Damien the Leper said: I'm curious. Will the semi-annual conference in October be held in the same manner as the annual April conference? Yes https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/october-2020-general-conference-virtual 1
Scott Lloyd Posted June 23, 2020 Author Posted June 23, 2020 6 hours ago, Damien the Leper said: I'm curious. Will the semi-annual conference in October be held in the same manner as the annual April conference? I think there’s a thread about that on the board right now.
JAHS Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/23/2020 at 9:05 AM, Damien the Leper said: I'm curious. Will the semi-annual conference in October be held in the same manner as the annual April conference? https://www.eastidahonews.com/2020/06/lds-church-announced-october-general-conference-will-be-virtual-only/
katherine the great Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 On 6/21/2020 at 8:57 PM, Robert F. Smith said: When I visited BYU in the early 1970s for research purposes, I was not very impressed with Pres Holland. I even told some people that he wasn't very good at running BYU. Wait. I don’t think President Holland was president of BYU until sometime in the early 80s. Oaks was there before him. (unless President Holland served a couple of terms?) 1
Meadowchik Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 26 minutes ago, katherine the great said: Wait. I don’t think President Holland was president of BYU until sometime in the early 80s. Oaks was there before him. (unless President Holland served a couple of terms?) He was Dean of Religious Education starting in 1974, President of BYU in 1980. 1
katherine the great Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Meadowchik said: He was Dean of Religious Education starting in 1974, President of BYU in 1980. That sounds right.
Robert F. Smith Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 4 hours ago, katherine the great said: Wait. I don’t think President Holland was president of BYU until sometime in the early 80s. Oaks was there before him. (unless President Holland served a couple of terms?) 4 hours ago, Meadowchik said: He was Dean of Religious Education starting in 1974, President of BYU in 1980. You're both correct. Holland was Commissioner of the Church Educational System beginning in 1976. Not sure now why I have such a vivid memory of having bad-mouthed the guy for being BYU Pres back in those days, and that just goes to show how flawed human memory can be. I did briefly visit campus when he was Pres beginning in 1980, but that was only for a few days at a time. What a mishmash. All the more reason for me to repent. 1
katherine the great Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Robert F. Smith said: Not sure now why I have such a vivid memory of having bad-mouthed the guy for being BYU Pres back in those days, and that just goes to show how flawed human memory can be. 😂 Ain’t that the truth? I feel like I’m in a total time warp half the time lately. 2
strappinglad Posted June 25, 2020 Posted June 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: What a mishmash Maybe got him confused with Wilkinson ? 😄
Robert F. Smith Posted June 26, 2020 Posted June 26, 2020 1 hour ago, strappinglad said: Maybe got him confused with Wilkinson ? 😄 No, I was a BYU student during Wilkinson's reign, and everyone understood his flaws and strengths. He scowled, but we loved him.. He built the modern BYU -- he would go to the Brethren, make his case, and they would give him lots of money to put in more bldgs, hire more faculty, and expand the student body. He was old school. If he saw you walking on the grass, he would yell at you. My professors caught him and his spy ring red-handed, but he would allow himself to be the butt of jokes during the annual Fieldhouse Frolics. A real character.
Scott Lloyd Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 8:26 AM, katherine the great said: Wait. I don’t think President Holland was president of BYU until sometime in the early 80s. Oaks was there before him. (unless President Holland served a couple of terms?) Good call. Don’t know why I didn’t pick up on this. I graduated from BYU the year President Holland succeeded President Oaks, and it was indeed 1980.
Scott Lloyd Posted June 26, 2020 Author Posted June 26, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 1:02 PM, Robert F. Smith said: You're both correct. Holland was Commissioner of the Church Educational System beginning in 1976. Not sure now why I have such a vivid memory of having bad-mouthed the guy for being BYU Pres back in those days, and that just goes to show how flawed human memory can be. I did briefly visit campus when he was Pres beginning in 1980, but that was only for a few days at a time. What a mishmash. All the more reason for me to repent. Could it have been President Oaks you remember bad mouthing?
Robert F. Smith Posted June 27, 2020 Posted June 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: Could it have been President Oaks you remember bad mouthing? At this remove, anything is possible -- except that I had a very strong sense that Dallin Oaks knew very well what he was doing, and how to do it, just based on his brilliant Dec 1963 Improvement Era article on the School Prayer decisions of the Supreme Court (when he was a law professor at Univ of Chicago). That had made a permanent and very positive impression on me. More likely I bad mouthed Pres Holland circa 1980, when visiting BYU for a few days.
Popular Post Scott Lloyd Posted July 16, 2020 Author Popular Post Posted July 16, 2020 I received word just now from Elder Holland’s executive assistant that he “continues to feel better every day.” She responded on his behalf to my earlier expression of concern. 5
pogi Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: I received word just now from Elder Holland’s executive assistant that he “continues to feel better every day.” She responded on his behalf to my earlier expression of concern. Do we know if he is still in the hospital?
Scott Lloyd Posted July 16, 2020 Author Posted July 16, 2020 31 minutes ago, pogi said: Do we know if he is still in the hospital? We know that he is not. Calm posted back on June 20 that he had been released. Since then he has participated in at least one high profile event that I know of (New Mission Leadership Seminar). 1
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