sunstoned Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 Bill Gates has pledged 100 million dollars to help alleviate the coronavirus crisis. https://www.businessinsider.com/billionaires-spending-hundreds-of-millions-on-coronavirus-research-2020-3 Maybe there is something else that church to do to help. 2
The Nehor Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 15 hours ago, sunstoned said: Bill Gates has pledged 100 million dollars to help alleviate the coronavirus crisis. https://www.businessinsider.com/billionaires-spending-hundreds-of-millions-on-coronavirus-research-2020-3 Maybe there is something else that church to do to help.
rodheadlee Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 18 hours ago, sunstoned said: Bill Gates has pledged 100 million dollars to help alleviate the coronavirus crisis. https://www.businessinsider.com/billionaires-spending-hundreds-of-millions-on-coronavirus-research-2020-3 Maybe there is something else that church to do to help. https://www.jpost.com/International/US-clinical-trial-for-coronavirus-vaccine-to-begin-Monday-621130 I don't think throwing more money into research is going to help all that much. The US and Israel are already doing clinical trials. edited to ad: on the other hand the Prophet's message gave me great comfort yesterday. It gave me a sense of calm as I had to minister to a family member and delay my border crossing to return home. I fear getting trapped in the US. Edited March 16, 2020 by rodheadlee 1
Calm Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, rodheadlee said: https://www.jpost.com/International/US-clinical-trial-for-coronavirus-vaccine-to-begin-Monday-621130 I don't think throwing more money into research is going to help all that much. The US and Israel are already doing clinical trials. Research can be done on pinpointing medications or other treatments to help alleviate symptoms.
rodheadlee Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Calm said: Research can be done on pinpointing medications or other treatments to help alleviate symptoms. Good.. Thanks. I'm a carpenter and what I know about medical research could fit on the head of a pin. 1
Calm Posted March 16, 2020 Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, rodheadlee said: Good.. Thanks. I'm a carpenter and what I know about medical research could fit on the head of a pin. We only have so much time in the day. I probably missed other stuff research can help with. I tend to think of research and medications to help feel better because that is what is happening with my disorder that affects me. Research into cause and cure is likely decades before success. Edited March 16, 2020 by Calm
theplains Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/15/2020 at 3:02 PM, InCognitus said: Technically, both the Bible and the Book of Mormon could contain the fulness of the gospel (although this statement is somewhat ambiguous): What do you believe led to this 2013 change in the Introduction page? The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible. It is a record of God’s dealings with ancient inhabitants of the Americas and contains, as does the Bible, the fulness of the everlasting gospel. Does Doctrine and Covenants 42:12 continue to lend support to the pre-2013 versions?
The Nehor Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 17 hours ago, Calm said: Research can be done on pinpointing medications or other treatments to help alleviate symptoms. It is hard to do the equivalent of clinical trials in the middle of a pandemic and such research will be done by government agencies and preexisting organizations equipped to do them. If you can give a generous fast offering but many face economic uncertainty right now. There are going to be mass layoffs soon from several industries that really have little hope of functioning in these conditions (hotels, restaurants, most service industry positions) and little hope of finding work for the next few months and many in these industries live hand to mouth. There are government ideas being floated to try to help people with rent and mortgages and being able to buy food but I expect that the Church will need to assist many members in the days ahead. If you are in such straits please contact your ministers (brothers or sisters) and tell them. If they do not help contact the Bishop, EQP, or RSP and let them know. For secular charities assisting food banks is probably a good idea. Be very careful though. There are a lot of scam organizations that have cropped up claiming to help those who have lost their jobs or who are ill or even people claiming they need money to develop a vaccine that are designed to just pocket the money and vanish. Plus obviously they did not hear that Alex Jones already has a colloidal silver toothpaste that kills SARS and the whole Corona family. The New York attorney general slammed him and ordered him to shut up for promoting lies. Be careful. 1
Calm Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Nehor said: I expect that the Church will need to assist many members in the days ahead. My husband volunteers at the storehouse. They are doing about a week’s worth of work every day. He said it is like the week of Thanksgiving (usually the busiest of the year). Edited March 17, 2020 by Calm
Avatar4321 Posted March 17, 2020 Posted March 17, 2020 On 3/15/2020 at 11:05 PM, MustardSeed said: The prophets message is trending top three on youtube tonight. Lots of folks in and out of the church are finding comfort in our loved presidents words. I'm so grateful for him. We need this kind of leadership in the world. It was number 1 at one point
The Nehor Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 7 hours ago, Calm said: My husband volunteers at the storehouse. They are doing about a week’s worth of work every day. He said it is like the week of Thanksgiving (usually the busiest of the year). Yeah, I just got the first check requests. Members who work in hotels. If the planes get grounded (very likely) we may have a lot more need. About a third of our members work for airlines or at the airport. The issue is that while the bishop and I can still sign off on the check remotely we do have to meet up to get both of our signatures on it. I am also tempted to ask if I can take some blank checks home to speed up processing or at least give them to the bishop to store at his house. They are supposed to be kept locked at church buildings normally but it is increasing travel to little purpose. Then again they may have locked it down. I am pretty sure it was intended that you can only print at the church building but if so, there was a bug before and it may have been fixed. 1
InCognitus Posted March 18, 2020 Posted March 18, 2020 14 hours ago, theplains said: What do you believe led to this 2013 change in the Introduction page? The Book of Mormon is a volume of holy scripture comparable to the Bible. It is a record of God’s dealings with ancient inhabitants of the Americas and contains, as does the Bible, the fulness of the everlasting gospel. Does Doctrine and Covenants 42:12 continue to lend support to the pre-2013 versions? The introduction to the Book of Mormon is about the Book of Mormon, not the Bible. And the Book of Mormon speaks more frequently and more plainly about the atonement of Jesus Christ. So it deserves to be singled out that way. 1
theplains Posted March 19, 2020 Posted March 19, 2020 On 3/18/2020 at 2:48 AM, InCognitus said: And the Book of Mormon speaks more frequently and more plainly about the atonement of Jesus Christ. How does the Book of Mormon speak more plainly about the atonement?
InCognitus Posted March 21, 2020 Posted March 21, 2020 On 3/19/2020 at 2:58 PM, theplains said: How does the Book of Mormon speak more plainly about the atonement? Have you read the Book of Mormon? The atonement of Jesus Christ and its purpose is addressed all throughout the book. Here are some relevant articles on the topic: The Powers of the Atonement: Insights from the Book of Mormon, by Jared W. Ludlow The Atonement of Jesus Christ: 2 Nephi 9, by Robert J. Matthews And here is part of the conclusion from the first article: Quote As we can see from just a few passages and experiences, the Book of Mormon is a valuable witness to the doctrine, reality, and power of the Atonement. The sweet, gentle, yet powerful Atonement is available to bring about a mighty change of heart and to keep that spiritual change alive continually. We can turn to the Book of Mormon to learn more about the Atonement because the Book of Mormon truly is another witness of Jesus Christ and His Atonement. It even contains Jesus’s own witness of the Atonement which He told to the Nephites: “I have drunk out of that bitter cup which the Father hath given me, and have glorified the Father in taking upon me the sins of the world, in the which I have suffered the will of the Father in all things from the beginning” (3 Nephi 11:11). All the Book of Mormon prophets invite us to come unto Christ and receive the blessings of the Atonement. Jacob invited his listeners to reconcile themselves to the will of God and to remember that “it is only in and through the grace of God that ye are saved” (2 Nephi 10:24). And then he pled, “Wherefore, may God raise you from death by the power of the resurrection, and also from everlasting death by the power of the atonement, that ye may be received into the eternal kingdom of God” (2 Nephi 10:25). King Benjamin counseled that we can only overcome the natural man and become a saint “through the atonement of Christ the Lord” (Mosiah 3:19). Moroni warned us not to deny the power of God, “for he worketh by power, according to the faith of the children of men” (Moroni 10:7). Moroni’s conclusion to the Book of Mormon invites: “Come unto Christ, and be perfected in him, and deny yourselves of all ungodliness; and if ye shall deny yourselves of all ungodliness, and love God with all your might, mind and strength, then is his grace sufficient for you, that by his grace ye may be perfect in Christ; and if by the grace of God ye are perfect in Christ, ye can in nowise deny the power of God. And again, if ye by the grace of God are perfect in Christ, and deny not his power, then are ye sanctified in Christ by the grace of God, through the shedding of the blood of Christ, which is in the covenant of the Father unto the remission of your sins, that ye become holy, without spot” (Moroni 10:32–33). 1
theplains Posted March 27, 2020 Posted March 27, 2020 On 3/20/2020 at 8:16 PM, InCognitus said: Have you read the Book of Mormon? The atonement of Jesus Christ and its purpose is addressed all throughout the book. Yes, I have read the Book of Mormon. But I was hoping to understand why you said that it speaksmore plainly than the Bible (I assume that is your reference point) about the Atonement.
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