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  1. D&C 130:20–21 says, "There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated— And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated". What law or laws did Adam and Eve obey to get their blessings before, during, and after the fall?
  2. Regarding #1, what knowledge of good and evil did Adam and Eve have before the fall? Regarding #3, did eating from the forbidden tree give them knowledge of how to procreate? How did the animals gain that knowledge?
  3. What great blessings happened to Adam and Eve in the fall, as Gospel Principles says?
  4. The LDS Church defines eternal life as exaltation. https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/old-testament-seminary-teacher-manual/lessons-1-5/lesson-2-the-plan-of-salvation?lang=eng What is immortality? (Living forever with a resurrected body.) What is eternal life? (To become like our Heavenly Father and to live as families eternally in His presence.)
  5. I see that Gospel Principles teaches great blessings resulted as a consequence of the Fall.
  6. What is your interpretation of these parts? "'Then,' said the benefactor, 'you will pay the debt to me and I will set the terms. It will not be easy, but it will be possible. I will provide a way. You need not go to prison.' #9 Our sins are our spiritual debts. Without Jesus Christ, who is our Savior and Mediator, we would all pay for our sins by suffering spiritual death. But because of Him, if we will keep His terms, which are to repent and keep His commandments, we may return to live with our Heavenly Father. #12 The way I read this parable of Mr. Packer is
  7. Every Passover season I contemplate various talks given on the Atonement. This particular one was spoken by Boyd K. Packer in the April 1977 General Conference sermon entitled "The Mediator." What follows is my interpretation of its implications. Let me know what you think. Numbers are applied to the italicized quote. It may be referenced later. Although all people will be resurrected, only those who accept the Atonement will be saved from spiritual death (see Articles of Faith 1:3). #1 We accept Christ's Atonement by placing our faith in Him … this faith, we
  8. What do you think about this teaching? Assistant to the Twelve Apostles Sterling W. Sill spoke of Adam's fall: "Adam fell, but he fell in the right direction. He fell toward the goal.... Adam fell, but he fell upward" (Deseret News, Church Section, 31 July 1965, p. 7).
  9. Why did God tell Adam and Eve not to eat from the forbidden tree if his plan was for them to disobey?
  10. From what I see from LDS literature, the Fall was really a fall upwards and then great blessings resulted from the Fall. In essence, God wanted Adam and Eve to disobey him so that his plan would not be frustrated. Satan, despite his plans to hurt God's plan, turned out to be the inadvertent hero and should actually be commended for helping God. According to the Pearl of Great Price, Adam actually blesses God for his transgression and Eve praises both herself and Adam for their transgression. I never hear any more of this kind of praise towards God or self-congratulations for
  11. Does that mean you believe God wants us to sin so that he could be glorified?
  12. Why do you believe Adam and Eve did not ask God what it meant to be fruitful and multiply or what death meant when they were told not to eat from the forbidden tree?
  13. Sorry , I might have missed it. I have no record if Adam and Eve were attempting to procreate while in the Garden before the Fall. Also, there is no indication that God's command to be fruitful and multiply had a time limit so we cannot say they were practicing birth control. Remember, the same command was given to the animals.
  14. But if you were already a god at this premortal council, then why would you need to become a god again in D&C 132:20?
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