snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 I've been fascinated with the story of Noah's ark since I was a kid.....never really believing the story until I became a Christ follower. Has anyone done any research into Ron Wyatt and his claim that Noah's ark has been found? The government of Turkey recognizes a site as such.. "in the mountains of Ararat"... that has some very interesting finds. I know.....call me crazy..... but this seems to be a man made ship way up in the mountains and Wyatt was convincing enough to have the government of Turkey designate it as such. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm Also, here is a video on the research done by Wyatt.
bluebell Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 I've always found that site up in the mountains of Turkey to be very intriguing. I wish some scientists could get up there and actually study it. Inquiring minds want to know!
snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, bluebell said: I've always found that site up in the mountains of Turkey to be very intriguing. I wish some scientists could get up there and actually study it. Inquiring minds want to know! Well that is the thing, Mr.Wyatt found a lot of evidence pointing to a huge ancient ship, rivets, vertical "ribs" of petrified wood, petrified decking, anchor stones...the area is known as the the "village of the 8"...pretty amazing.
mnn727 Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) From everything I have read on him: To me, Ron White is a con man, he's made a lot of money "finding Noah's Ark" over the last 30 years without ever going up the mountain. Edited April 17, 2018 by mnn727 3
bluebell Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 Ron Wyatt does not have a great track record though. He's said some pretty crazy stuff (like that he found the Ark of the Covenant in a secret cave under the spot where Jesus was crucified and it was covered in Christ's blood, f or example) and there are many in the Christian community who consider him a fraud. That's why it would be much better to have independent scientists be able to study the site. 1
Popular Post Physics Guy Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) Check the Wikipedia article on Wyatt's claimed site of the Ark. According to it, the site was indeed investigated archaeologically when it was first identified, but the conclusion after digging was that it was just a natural rock formation. What is actually there is a roughly boat-shaped hill of rock, and Wyatt's claims are all about identifying fossilized/petrified structures within it. It's easy to find bits of rock that kind of look as though they could once have been ship ribs, though, and neither Wyatt nor anyone else has found anything at this supposed Ark site with the internal structure of petrified wood. Some of Wyatt's supposed evidence also included readings from a "frequency generator" which allegedly functioned sort of as a sonar mapper, to look inside the rock formation. That might sound like some kind of standard geological equipment, or something, but actually it was just a crackpot contraption. Edited April 17, 2018 by Physics Guy 9
JAHS Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, Physics Guy said: Check the Wikipedia article on Wyatt's claimed site of the Ark. According to it, the site was indeed investigated archaeologically when it was first identified, but the conclusion after digging was that it was just a natural rock formation. Does look like a natural rock formation and the size is probably not right.
Jeanne Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 Is there any LDS on this board that does not believe in the story of Noah's Ark?
JAHS Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, Jeanne said: Is there any LDS on this board that does not believe in the story of Noah's Ark? I don't believe in the Russel Crow version of Noah with the stone giants helping him. 1
Jeanne Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, JAHS said: I don't believe in the Russel Crow version of Noah with the stone giants helping him. What do you believe?
snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 23 minutes ago, Jeanne said: Is there any LDS on this board that does not believe in the story of Noah's Ark? Many Christians I know believe the story of Noah's Ark....but most think it was a local flood, not global. 1
Popular Post rongo Posted April 17, 2018 Popular Post Posted April 17, 2018 Just now, snowflake said: Many Christians I know believe the story of Noah's Ark....but most think it was a local flood, not global. I'm a global floodist. I'm pretty sure President Nelson is, too. 5
snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 16 minutes ago, JAHS said: I don't believe in the Russel Crow version of Noah with the stone giants helping him. Noah worked on the Ark for over 100 years.
snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, rongo said: I'm a global floodist. I'm pretty sure President Nelson is, too. We're in the minority I would suspect rongo!
ksfisher Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, snowflake said: I've been fascinated with the story of Noah's ark since I was a kid.....never really believing the story until I became a Christ follower. Has anyone done any research into Ron Wyatt and his claim that Noah's ark has been found? The government of Turkey recognizes a site as such.. "in the mountains of Ararat"... that has some very interesting finds. I know.....call me crazy..... but this seems to be a man made ship way up in the mountains and Wyatt was convincing enough to have the government of Turkey designate it as such. http://www.arkdiscovery.com/noah's_ark.htm Also, here is a video on the research done by Wyatt. According to wikipedia Ron Wyatt has discovered the following: Noah's Ark (the Durupınar site, located approximately 29 kilometres (18 mi) south of Mount Ararat)[2] Anchor stones (or drogue stones) used by Noah on the Ark[3] The post-flood house, grave markers and tombs of Noah and his wife[4] The location of Sodom and Gomorrah and the other Cities of the Plain: Zoar, Zeboim and Admah[5] Sulfur/brimstone balls from the ashen remains of Sodom and Gomorrah[6] The area of Djoser's pyramid complex believed to be the remains of Joseph's grain distribution bins used during the seven-year famine[7] The Tower of Babel site (in southern Turkey)[8] How the Egyptians may have built the pyramids[9] The site of the Israelites' crossing of the Red Sea (located in the Gulf of Aqaba)[10] Chariot wheels and other relics of the army of Pharaoh at the bottom of the Red Sea[11] The site of the biblical Mount Sinai (in Saudi Arabia at Jabal al-Lawz)[12] A chamber at the end of a maze of tunnels under Jerusalem containing artifacts from Solomon's Temple, including the Ark of the Covenant[13] The site of the Crucifixion of Jesus[14] Christ's blood in an "earthquake crack" beneath the crucifixion site, the DNA of which, according to Wyatt, contained 24 chromosomes, rather than 46[15] Burial pots off the coast of Ashkelon[16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt All in all, sounds like Mr Wyatt was one of, if not the, greatest archeologists ever. Edited April 17, 2018 by ksfisher 2
snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Physics Guy said: Check the Wikipedia article on Wyatt's claimed site of the Ark. According to it, the site was indeed investigated archaeologically when it was first identified, but the conclusion after digging was that it was just a natural rock formation. What is actually there is a roughly boat-shaped hill of rock, and Wyatt's claims are all about identifying fossilized/petrified structures within it. It's easy to find bits of rock that kind of look as though they could once have been ship ribs, though, and neither Wyatt nor anyone else has found anything at this supposed Ark site with the internal structure of petrified wood. Some of Wyatt's supposed evidence also included readings from a "frequency generator" which allegedly functioned sort of as a sonar mapper, to look inside the rock formation. That might sound like some kind of standard geological equipment, or something, but actually it was just a crackpot contraption. I agree that maybe a sonar mapper might be junk. But Wyatt does claim that he found petrified wood, and other artifacts including petrified dung and antler.
snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, ksfisher said: According to wikipedia Ron Wyatt has discovered the following: Noah's Ark (the Durupınar site, located approximately 29 kilometres (18 mi) south of Mount Ararat)[2] Anchor stones (or drogue stones) used by Noah on the Ark[3] The post-flood house, grave markers and tombs of Noah and his wife[4] The location of Sodom and Gomorrah and the other Cities of the Plain: Zoar, Zeboim and Admah[5] Sulfur/brimstone balls from the ashen remains of Sodom and Gomorrah[6] The area of Djoser's pyramid complex believed to be the remains of Joseph's grain distribution bins used during the seven-year famine[7] The Tower of Babel site (in southern Turkey)[8] How the Egyptians may have built the pyramids[9] The site of the Israelites' crossing of the Red Sea (located in the Gulf of Aqaba)[10] Chariot wheels and other relics of the army of Pharaoh at the bottom of the Red Sea[11] The site of the biblical Mount Sinai (in Saudi Arabia at Jabal al-Lawz)[12] A chamber at the end of a maze of tunnels under Jerusalem containing artifacts from Solomon's Temple, including the Ark of the Covenant[13] The site of the Crucifixion of Jesus[14] Christ's blood in an "earthquake crack" beneath the crucifixion site, the DNA of which, according to Wyatt, contained 24 chromosomes, rather than 46[15] Burial pots off the coast of Ashkelon[16] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Wyatt All in all, sounds like Mr Wyatt was one of, if not the, greatest archeologists ever. This dude was like a modern day Indiana Jones! Many of the items listed above have been found....the Bible has been authenticated by literally tens of thousand of places and archaeological finds.
bluebell Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, snowflake said: This dude was like a modern day Indiana Jones! Many of the items listed above have been found....the Bible has been authenticated by literally tens of thousand of places and archaeological finds. Which of the above things have been found (meaning, generally accepted has having been found)? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but am sincerely interested from an archeological point of view. That the bible takes place in places that literally existed has definitely been authenticated. But, that does not authenticate the bible (anymore than the finding of Troy or the existence of the parthenon authenticates Homer's Odyssey). 1
Guest Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 8 hours ago, bluebell said: I've always found that site up in the mountains of Turkey to be very intriguing. I wish some scientists could get up there and actually study it. Inquiring minds want to know! The mountain is believed to be in modern Iraq, in the area controlled by the Kurds, near or on the border with Turkey. In fact when ISIS invaded the land occupied by the Kurds, it was to this mountain they fled, before the U.S., and allies came to their aid with air raids. I do not know if this is "the mountain", or one in a mountain range. Edited April 17, 2018 by Bill "Papa" Lee 2
ksfisher Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, snowflake said: This dude was like a modern day Indiana Jones! The comparison came to my mind as well.
snowflake Posted April 17, 2018 Author Posted April 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, bluebell said: Which of the above things have been found (meaning, generally accepted has having been found)? I'm not trying to be argumentative, but am sincerely interested from an archeological point of view. Anchor stones, Tower or babel (in Iraq), how the egyptians built the pyramids (literally hundreds of "experts" claim this), crucifixion site of Christ (Golgotha). 15 minutes ago, bluebell said: That the bible takes place in places that literally existed has definitely been authenticated. But, that does not authenticate the bible (anymore than the finding of Troy or the existence of the parthenon authenticates Homer's Odyssey). Of course it gives authentication to the Bible. 1
mfbukowski Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jeanne said: Is there any LDS on this board that does not believe in the story of Noah's Ark? Seriously? Of course if you are speaking of it as a non-allegorical account of "what really happened" historically. I believe in it whole heartedly as a story of God's redemption of mankind and the re-creation of the earth spiritually, for each of us, and as quite pertinent to today as the earth is flooded and drowning in our own....."blood and sins of this generation". Each of us needs to build our own ark and reconstruct our worlds according to God's plan for us. Edited April 17, 2018 by mfbukowski 1
Sevenbak Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, rongo said: I'm a global floodist. I'm pretty sure President Nelson is, too. President Nelson believes in no-death before the fall, as well as being an anti-evolutionist. I don't think he would have any issues with his Church's teaching of a global flood. So while I don't know for sure if he's a global floodist, I do know for sure that right now he's a global tourist. Edited April 17, 2018 by Sevenbak 1
bluebell Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, snowflake said: Anchor stones, Tower or babel (in Iraq), how the egyptians built the pyramids (literally hundreds of "experts" claim this), crucifixion site of Christ (Golgotha). Of course it gives authentication to the Bible. How so? Thousands (millions?) of fictitious books are written every year that take place in real life places. The fact that a story happens in a real place does not mean the contents of the story are real. I read a story about a cave once where if you went in deep enough and found the right tunnel, you went back in time. The cave actually exists and I've been in it multiple times (even in the specific tunnel). Does that mean that the story is authentic or even more likely to be authentic? 3
ttribe Posted April 17, 2018 Posted April 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, snowflake said: This dude was like a modern day Indiana Jones! Many of the items listed above have been found....the Bible has been authenticated by literally tens of thousand of places and archaeological finds. No. Just, no. 2
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