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If your like me, your disinterested, yet bemused by Scott's noisome proof-texting of the gramer in your posts. Begrudingly, I must admit that he was right after all, as Professor Pinker can appraise (

http://uk.businessinsider.com/harvard-steven-pinker-misused-words-2015-9?r=US&IR=T) Please accept my fulsome congradulations, Scott. It still begs the question of whether you will flout this victory. Irregardless, you won this one.

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The great thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now.

 

The terrible thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now. 

 

I think I would have done pretty well in a quiz of those terms, except for "nonplussed".  I totally had that one wrong.

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The great thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now.

 

The terrible thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now. 

 

I think I would have done pretty well in a quiz of those terms, except for "nonplussed".  I totally had that one wrong.

I have always been bemused by nonplussed.

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My favorite is people mixing up me and I.

 

Incorrect: Me and my friends are going to the movie.

Correct: My friends and I are going to the movie.

 

Then when they try so hard to get it right, they use I when they should use me.

 

Incorrect: Adam took Eve and I to the game.

Correct: Adam took Eve and me to the game.

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My favorite is people mixing up me and I.

Incorrect: Me and my friends are going to the movie.

Correct: My friends and I are going to the movie.

Then when they try so hard to get it right, they use I when they should use me.

Incorrect: Adam took Eve and I to the game.

Correct: Adam took Eve and me to the game.

Another example of trying so hard to get it right that one gets it wrong is the prolific and improper use of <myself> In place of <me>, as in "Adam took Eve and myself to the game."

<Myself> is a reflexive personal pronoun and, as such, always refers back to the subject of the sentence or clause. Examples:

"I hurt myself."

Or the song title: "I'm Going to Sit Right Down and Write Myself a Letter."

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Royal Skousen calls attention to the many occasions in the Book of Mormon when it seems as though it contains bad grammar, but which were correct, standard variation in academic writing a couple of centuries earlier, and he gives plenty of examples at http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/royal-skousen-on-a-theory-a-theory-we-have-already-got-a-theory-and-there-cannot-be-any-more-theories/#comments .

 

Helaman 13:37 (O P and 1830) originally read "this shall be your language in them days," in which "them" is changed to "those" in the 1837 edition (presumably by Joseph Smith himself).  We think it ungrammatical today, even though it was acceptable in, say, 1598 academic writing.  This is important since many words and expressions in the Book of Mormon which were not used in Joseph's time, were right at home in the 16th century.  How this can be remains a mystery.

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There's really not all that much confusion. It's mainly those who don't know any better or arrogant outsiders insisting on their own brand of reverse provincialism who write it as "Utahan."

By the way, this article provides a glaring instance of the improper use of "begs the question."

Cool, glad I could provide that :)

I'll go read it again!

 

The two words that are at times difficult for me to remember their correct usage are :  Affect & Effect

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A good key is to remember that <affect> is a verb and that <effect> is (usually, but not always) a noun.

Yes, but it's the "usually, but not always" part that can be confusing :)

And, I know one is a verb and the other usually a noun but I can't always remember which is which!!  Thanks for the correct usage though.

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Yes, but it's the "usually, but not always" part that can be confusing :)

And, I know one is a verb and the other usually a noun but I can't always remember which is which!!  Thanks for the correct usage though.

<Effect> is only properly used as a verb when the intended meaning is "to bring about," as in "to effect a change." If the intended meaning is "to Influence," use <affect>, as in "the experience affects my impression of him."
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There's really not all that much confusion. It's mainly those who don't know any better or arrogant outsiders insisting on their own brand of reverse provincialism who write it as "Utahan."

 

 

Hmmm... Arrogant outsiders calling a group by a name other than the one they prefer?

 

Kind of like using the term SSA.  Gay and lesbians have been clear on the term they prefer and yet, as those dang anti-Mormons who use the word "Utahan", arrogant outsiders continue to use SSA.  Amazing. 

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