Popular Post Buckeye Posted September 11, 2015 Popular Post Posted September 11, 2015 If your like me, your disinterested, yet bemused by Scott's noisome proof-texting of the gramer in your posts. Begrudingly, I must admit that he was right after all, as Professor Pinker can appraise (http://uk.businessinsider.com/harvard-steven-pinker-misused-words-2015-9?r=US&IR=T) Please accept my fulsome congradulations, Scott. It still begs the question of whether you will flout this victory. Irregardless, you won this one. 8
filovirus Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 If your like me, your disinterested, yet bemused by Scott's noisome proof-texting of the gramer in your posts. Begrudingly, I must admit that he was right after all, as Professor Pinker can appraise (http://uk.businessinsider.com/harvard-steven-pinker-misused-words-2015-9?r=US&IR=T) Please accept my fulsome congradulations, Scott. It still begs the question of whether you will flout this victory. Irregardless, you won this one.*you're 1
cinepro Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 The great thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now. The terrible thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now. I think I would have done pretty well in a quiz of those terms, except for "nonplussed". I totally had that one wrong.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 I'll be impressed when I see "Utahan" on the list.
CA Steve Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 The great thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now. The terrible thing about that article is that you will see and hear these everywhere now. I think I would have done pretty well in a quiz of those terms, except for "nonplussed". I totally had that one wrong.I have always been bemused by nonplussed.
ALarson Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 (edited) I'll be impressed when I see "Utahan" on the list.http://www.ksl.com/?sid=24207511 Seems there is confusion about this! Edited September 11, 2015 by ALarson
Buckeye Posted September 11, 2015 Author Posted September 11, 2015 I'll be impressed when I see "Utahan" on the list. This is from Harvard. Don't hold your breath.
Buckeye Posted September 11, 2015 Author Posted September 11, 2015 just one? Of course not. I'm the Lays Potato Chip of posters. There's never just one error. 2
Thinking Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 My favorite is people mixing up me and I. Incorrect: Me and my friends are going to the movie.Correct: My friends and I are going to the movie. Then when they try so hard to get it right, they use I when they should use me. Incorrect: Adam took Eve and I to the game.Correct: Adam took Eve and me to the game.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 http://www.ksl.com/?sid=24207511Seems there is confusion about this!There's really not all that much confusion. It's mainly those who don't know any better or arrogant outsiders insisting on their own brand of reverse provincialism who write it as "Utahan."By the way, this article provides a glaring instance of the improper use of "begs the question."
Scott Lloyd Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 My favorite is people mixing up me and I.Incorrect: Me and my friends are going to the movie.Correct: My friends and I are going to the movie.Then when they try so hard to get it right, they use I when they should use me.Incorrect: Adam took Eve and I to the game.Correct: Adam took Eve and me to the game.Another example of trying so hard to get it right that one gets it wrong is the prolific and improper use of <myself> In place of <me>, as in "Adam took Eve and myself to the game."<Myself> is a reflexive personal pronoun and, as such, always refers back to the subject of the sentence or clause. Examples:"I hurt myself."Or the song title: "I'm Going to Sit Right Down and Write Myself a Letter."
Robert F. Smith Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Royal Skousen calls attention to the many occasions in the Book of Mormon when it seems as though it contains bad grammar, but which were correct, standard variation in academic writing a couple of centuries earlier, and he gives plenty of examples at http://www.mormoninterpreter.com/royal-skousen-on-a-theory-a-theory-we-have-already-got-a-theory-and-there-cannot-be-any-more-theories/#comments . Helaman 13:37 (O P and 1830) originally read "this shall be your language in them days," in which "them" is changed to "those" in the 1837 edition (presumably by Joseph Smith himself). We think it ungrammatical today, even though it was acceptable in, say, 1598 academic writing. This is important since many words and expressions in the Book of Mormon which were not used in Joseph's time, were right at home in the 16th century. How this can be remains a mystery.
ALarson Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 There's really not all that much confusion. It's mainly those who don't know any better or arrogant outsiders insisting on their own brand of reverse provincialism who write it as "Utahan."By the way, this article provides a glaring instance of the improper use of "begs the question."Cool, glad I could provide that I'll go read it again! The two words that are at times difficult for me to remember their correct usage are : Affect & Effect
coolrok7 Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Joseph, according to testimony, was only reading letters of light in which would not disappear until it was written down correctly. 1
Scott Lloyd Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Cool, glad I could provide that I'll go read it again!The two words that are at times difficult for me to remember their correct usage are : Affect & EffectA good key is to remember that <affect> is a verb and that <effect> is (usually, but not always) a noun.
Robert F. Smith Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Of course not. I'm the Lays Potato Chip of posters. There's never just one error.O.K., then how about flaunt and regardless for "flout" and "irregardless" your OP? I assumed that you put them in there solely for fun. Am I right?
ALarson Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 A good key is to remember that <affect> is a verb and that <effect> is (usually, but not always) a noun.Yes, but it's the "usually, but not always" part that can be confusing And, I know one is a verb and the other usually a noun but I can't always remember which is which!! Thanks for the correct usage though.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 Yes, but it's the "usually, but not always" part that can be confusing And, I know one is a verb and the other usually a noun but I can't always remember which is which!! Thanks for the correct usage though.<Effect> is only properly used as a verb when the intended meaning is "to bring about," as in "to effect a change." If the intended meaning is "to Influence," use <affect>, as in "the experience affects my impression of him." 1
Buckeye Posted September 11, 2015 Author Posted September 11, 2015 O.K., then how about flaunt and regardless for "flout" and "irregardless" your OP? I assumed that you put them in there solely for fun. Am I right? There's more than just those. Read the article.
Scott Lloyd Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 You guys who are picking at Buckeye for his errors don't get what he's doing.
jkwilliams Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 You guys who are picking at Buckeye for his errors don't get what he's doing. I gotted it.
sethpayne Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 There's really not all that much confusion. It's mainly those who don't know any better or arrogant outsiders insisting on their own brand of reverse provincialism who write it as "Utahan." Hmmm... Arrogant outsiders calling a group by a name other than the one they prefer? Kind of like using the term SSA. Gay and lesbians have been clear on the term they prefer and yet, as those dang anti-Mormons who use the word "Utahan", arrogant outsiders continue to use SSA. Amazing.
Thinking Posted September 11, 2015 Posted September 11, 2015 You guys who are picking at Buckeye for his errors don't get what he's doing. I was thinking the same thing but you said it more better then I could of.
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