Who Is Like Him?

[JLHPROF]

I John 3

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.

² Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

³ And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.

 

 

We are the sons of God, when Christ returns we shall be like him, and we will purify ourselves, not just rely on Christ's purity alone.

See, I can pick scripture to support myself too.

[bluebell]

fair enough:

discuss why 'the one true and holy reformed church on earth' would rather mock & scorn than praise God?

I would suggest that this thread has no bearing on how much LDS love to praise God but rather speaks to how the LDS posters on this board view your sincerity.

The OP seemed more like a passive aggressive way to make a point than an actual attempt to praise God.

[pogi]

The OP seemed more like a passive aggressive way to make a point than an actual attempt to praise God.

 

Yes indeed, a rameumptum style, holier-than-though, self aggrandizement. 

[intra]

The Zoramites thought God had chosen only them to be saved in the kingdom of heaven. They gave thanks for being his favorite people.

Alma 31:17–18

After each of the Zoramites had prayed, they went home and did not pray or talk about God again for an entire week.

Alma 31:12, 23

 

[intra]

 

I was not aware that the signs that shall follow them that believe included  “they shall turn scriptures into spam.“

 

although here's a bit about people considering scripture "spam" 

 

But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth?

Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee.

When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been partaker with adulterers.

Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit.

Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mother's son.

(Psalm 50:16-20) 

is this sort of like the Zoramites who did not pray or talk about God during the week? or honor Him? 

i don't want to be like them. 

 

[bluebell]

You are so self righteous intra that it's hard to take you seriously.

Most of your posts seem to be about how much better you are (in whatever way) than LDS people.

If this is your true attitude then your reception in this thread is reasonable. If it's not then you should probably try a new approach-one that is less offensive to your intended audience.

[ERayR]

You are so self righteous intra that it's hard to take you seriously.

Most of your posts seem to be about how much better you are (in whatever way) than LDS people.

If this is your true attitude then your reception in this thread is reasonable. If it's not then you should probably try a new approach-one that is less offensive to your intended audience.

 

Did you ever notice that during extended school breaks they seem to come out of the woodwork?  You are correct it is hard to know whether to take some of them seriously.

[Calm]

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The OP seemed more like a passive aggressive way to make a point than an actual attempt to praise God.

It feels to me like he is using God's name in vain in fact, not praising God.

[ERayR]

It feels to me like he is using God's name in vain in fact, not praising God.

 

You are right it does come off more as mocking than praising.

Edited December 27, 2014 by ERayR

[Flyonthewall]

Matthew 23

1 Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,

2 Saying, The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

4 For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men’s shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.

5 But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,

[mfbukowski]

What's going your point exactly?

Jesus said that those who receive the Word are gods. So I suppose those that receive the Word are like Him.

He has not points.

[mfbukowski]

You are so self righteous intra that it's hard to take you seriously.

Most of your posts seem to be about how much better you are (in whatever way) than LDS people.

If this is your true attitude then your reception in this thread is reasonable. If it's not then you should probably try a new approach-one that is less offensive to your intended audience.

Pointless pride. He needs to look up the word "hubris".

[mfbukowski]

i believe it ↑

WHY? You parrot the bible but do not hold it in your heart.

Edited December 27, 2014 by mfbukowski

[Calm]

although here's a bit about people considering scripture "spam"

is this sort of like the Zoramites who did not pray or talk about God during the week? or honor Him?

i don't want to be like them.

Then stop the spamming and actually seek the Spirit in posting here rather than using tactics of attack we have seen hundreds of times (I don't believe this is hyperbole, I could say thousands if I extended it beyond the board and the previous boards that were part of this community).

"Whoso offereth praise glorifieth me: and to him that ordereth his conversation aright will I shew the salvation of God."

I suggest working on this last bolded part as you are way off on that.

LDS do not believe scripture itself is spam, we devote half our Sunday School time to studying what the Bible can teach us in being better Christians, opening ourselves up fully to God and learning how to say "thy Will, not mine, be done in all things". There have been studies that demonstrate in general a greater familiarity with the biblical text among LDS than all other Christians. That does not automatically mean we are better at following its teachings, but it should demonstrate we take the Bible very serious as revelation from God.

Otoh, you have demonstrated here quite well that no matter how marvellous and important scripture is, someone can treat it on the level of potato chips, passing it out and consuming it without thought...or at least appearing to do so. If you wish to honour God and his Word in all ways,you need to change how you speak to us just as if you moved to another English speaking country you would become aware that they used the language differently and if not careful one could deeply offend.

Not changing your approach will demonstrate your actual commitment to God's Word. Since others have done so when in your position quite successfully, everyone here knows I am not requiring something impossible or wrong or something that would treat scripture with less respect.

Edited December 27, 2014 by calmoriah

[ERayR]

although here's a bit about people considering scripture "spam" 

 

is this sort of like the Zoramites who did not pray or talk about God during the week? or honor Him? 

i don't want to be like them. 

 

 

Volume does no equal sincerity.

[Robert F. Smith]

Jacob 3:1

 

Look unto God with firmness of mind,

And pray unto Him with exceeding faith.

 

Jacob 3:11,

 

O my brethren, hearken unto my word:

 

Arouse the faculties of your souls,

Shake yourselves that ye may awake from the slumber of death,

And loose yourselves from the pains of Hell!

 

 

That ye may not become angels to the Devil,

To be cast into that lake of fire and brimstone,

Which is the second death!

 

Sometimes it is difficult to get the truth through to people, as in Jarom 3, because of

 

the hardness of their hearts,

and the deafness of their ears,

and the blindness of their minds,

and the stiffness of their necks.

 

2 Nephi 26:15,

 

The words of the righteous shall be written,

And the prayers of the faithful shall be heard,

And all those who have dwindled in unbelief shall not be forgotten!

 

2 Nephi 33:6,

 

I glory in plainness;

I glory in truth;

I glory in my Jesus,

For he hath redeemed my soul from Hell!

 

Alma 9:28,

 

If they have been righteous,

they shall reap the salvation of their souls,

according to the power and deliverance of Jesus Christ;

 

And if they have been evil,

they shall reap the damnation of their souls,

according to the power and captivation of the Devil!

 

1 Nephi 22:2, has a nice little chiasm:

 

They were made manifest unto the prophet,

By the voice of the Spirit:

For by the Spirit

Are all things made known unto the prophets,

 

Another reversal at Moroni 7:11,

 

A bitter fountain cannot bring forth good water,

Neither can a good fountain bring forth bitter water.

 

Here's another one from Alma 50:14,

 

And they also began a foundation for a city

Between the city of Moroni

And the city of Aaron,

Joining the borders of Aaron

And Moroni;

And they called the name of the city, or the land, Nephihah.

 

How about maxims (proverbial wisdom) in the Book of Mormon, such as the remarkable one at 2 Nephi 2:25,

 

Adam fell that men might be;

And men are, that they might have joy.

 

Alma 40:8,

 

All is as one day with God,

and time only is measured unto man.

 

And Mosiah 2:17,

 

That ye may learn wisdom

That ye may learn that

When ye are in the service of your fellow beings,

Ye are only in the service of your God.

[Kenngo1969]

fair enough: 

discuss why 'the one true and holy reformed church on earth' would rather mock & scorn than praise God? 

I've never heard the phrase "the one true and holy reformed church on earth" with reference to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  Could you please provide me with a reference for where you got it?  Thanks!

[Robert F. Smith]

I've never heard the phrase "the one true and holy reformed church on earth" with reference to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.  Could you please provide me with a reference for where you got it?  Thanks!

Probably a Freudian slip.  I'm sure that he meant "restored."

[Calm]

Either way, it appears it is a phrase unique to him.

No other hits on either google or duck.

[Stargazer]

Either way, it appears it is a phrase unique to him.

No other hits on either google or duck.

 

Duck?

[Calm]

Duckduckgo….

 

I am trying to reform.

 

http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/64098-my-response-to-jeremy-runnels-part-1-hales-and-google/?p=1209449903

Edited December 28, 2014 by calmoriah

[Skylla]

This isn't a conversation.  Thread closed.

 

Skylla