Does The Movie "frozen" Have A Hidden Gay Agenda?

[canard78]

This piece was satire, right?

 

Thought is must be, but having read through a few pages it seems not. The blog goes back six years with 100s of posts. I don't think a satirist would have the patience to blog general chatter for 6 years before releasing this hit-piece.

 

I think she genuinely believes what she's writing. She might have even prayed about and felt inspired to write it!!

[canard78]

I remember an American member on my mission, back in the late 1990s, telling me avidly that they would boycott Disney forever because Mulan had advocated cross-dressing and therefore transvestites.

 

The men, at the end, dress as women to get into the Forbidden City (and Mulan spend the whole thing pretending to be a man):

 

 

I considered explaining to him that if he was serious, he would have to boycott the whole of the UK (given our love for the Pantomine Dame):

 

 

I decided not to. They had promised us a dinner appointment.

[Calm]

"Well behaved mormon woman" - who would call themselves this? Surely it's a spoof/fake blog? It sounds like those joke twitter accounts who pretend to be a celebrity.

No, it is for real unfortunately. I say unfortunately because the blogger tends to, IMO, insist on drawing lines in the sand that aren't there in regards to what is and isn't good LDS behaviour.

Edited February 19, 2014 by calmoriah

[mormonnewb]

The discussion on this thread reminds me of a conversation I had about fifteen years ago with several active LDS mother's helpers (they were friendly with my son and visiting him at home) about the pro-abortion movie "Cider House Rules." Having just seen the movie, they were telling me about how beautiful, touching and uplifting the movie was. Without betraying a knowledge of the movie's ultimate theme and message, I queried them about the movie that touched them so deeply. As they rehearsed the plot, favorite scenes, and ultimate message of the movie, an open-mouthed look of stunned amazement suddenly came over the face of one of the girls as she realized she and her friends and been duped by a very skillfully produced piece of cinematic propaganda. The movie made abortion and abortionists seem noble, compassionate and necessary.

Though I haven't seen Frozen as yet (and probably won't see it), it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if there is some subtle anti-Gospel message skillfully packaged within the film. Especially in light of the fact that the song writers for this movie also wrote the music for the play "The Book of Mormon."

In Cider House Rules, the characters actually performed abortions. However, in Frozen, there are NO gay characters. In fact, at the center of the story is a romance between a man and a woman.

And it is the most Mormon of courtships. For one, they agreed to marry within a day or so of meeting. I'm not even sure they kissed. Later, it turns out that the man was up to no good, which I think makes a pretty good case for premarital celibacy.

The only way this movie could have been more Mormon-friendly was if the closing song was Praise to the Man.

Edited February 19, 2014 by mormonnewb

[The Nehor]

This piece was satire, right?

 

I wish it was.......

 

 

I considered explaining to him that if he was serious, he would have to boycott the whole of the UK (given our love for the Pantomine Dame):

 

 

To be fair that's just weird. Some of the public trasvestite figures weirded me out when I was on my mission in the UK.

[canard78]

I wish it was.......

 

 

 

To be fair that's just weird. Some of the public trasvestite figures weirded me out when I was on my mission in the UK.

 

That's not a "public transvestite" that's a pillar of british culture.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantomime_dame

[The Nehor]

That's not a "public transvestite" that's a pillar of british culture.

 

Next thing you will be telling me are those Scottish dresses are a pillar of Scottish culture.

[erdoch]

Craziest thing I've read for a while... Not sure if I should share it on my Facebook feed as an example of braindeadness, or if it's to embarrassing to share as coming from another member of the Church... 

 

Disney actually did introduce it's first lesbian couple on Disney Channel just recently...

[teddyaware]

In Cider House Rules, the characters actually performed abortions. However, in Frozen, there are NO gay characters. In fact, at the center of the story is a romance between a man and a woman.

And it is the most Mormon of courtships. For one, they agreed to marry within a day or so of meeting. I'm not even sure they kissed. Later, it turns out that the man was up to no good, which I think makes a pretty good case for premarital celibacy.

The only way this movie could have been more Mormon-friendly was if the closing song was Praise to the Man.

I've just reread Kathryn Skaggs' article and her take on Frozen causes me to want an answer to a specific question that grows out of the movie's plot. Apparently, the character Elsa was born with a magical power that enables her to instantly freeze whatever and whomever she wants frozen. She's taught by her parents she should feel very ashamed of this inherent magical power and that she should hide it from view, never allowing it to be observed in action by anyone.

 

My question to those who have seen the movie is this: What sorts of analogous inherent human talents or abilities could this "embarrassing" freezing power of Elsa's be a metaphor for? Remember, this talent to instantly freeze anything she wants isn't just a benign talent like the gift of a naturally beautiful singing voice.  

Edited February 19, 2014 by teddyaware

[The Nehor]

My question to those who have seen the movie is this: What sorts of analogous inherent human talents or abilities could this "embarrassing" freezing power of Elsa's be a metaphor for? Remember, this talent to instantly freeze anything she wants isn't just a benign talent like the gift of a naturally beautiful singing voice.  

 

Laser-heat vision. I have that. It's awesome.

[Flyonthewall]

I just checked the IMDB entry for Frozen and found this:

 

From the outside Anna's sister, Elsa looks poised, regal and reserved, but in reality, she lives in fear as she wrestles with a mighty secret-she was born with (dun dun dun) the power to create ice and snow"

This must be it... this is a new way to refer to the gay agenda!

[erdoch]

My question to those who have seen the movie is this: What sorts of analogous inherent human talents or abilities could this "embarrassing" freezing power of Elsa's be a metaphor for? Remember, this talent to instantly freeze anything she wants isn't just a benign talent like the gift of a naturally beautiful singing voice.  

 

The whole movie is obviously defending people with psychic powers or spiritual gifts... As such, it's not just pro-gay, it's complete New Age!!

[teddyaware]

Laser-heat vision. I have that. It's awesome.

Very funny! But your answer makes me wonder all the more what Elsa's superpower could serve as a metaphor for in the lives of real-life humans?

[MichelleD]

I've just reread Kathryn Skaggs' article and her take on Frozen causes me to want an answer to a specific question that grows out of the movie's plot. Apparently, the character Elsa was born with a magical power that enables her to instantly freeze whatever and whomever she wants frozen. She's taught by her parents she should feel very ashamed of this inherent magical power and that she should hide it from view, never allowing it to be observed in action by anyone.

 

My question to those who have seen the movie is this: What sorts of analogous inherent human talents or abilities could this "embarrassing" freezing power of Elsa's be a metaphor for? Remember, this talent to instantly freeze anything she wants isn't just a benign talent like the gift of a naturally beautiful singing voice.

She didn't just have the ability to freeze things when she wanted to (for fun or play in the snow), she couldn't control it and froze things that she didn't want to freeze (like her sister's heart). That's why she went into isolation...so she wouldn't cause harm to others.

[teddyaware]

She didn't just have the ability to freeze things when she wanted to (for fun or play in the snow), she couldn't control it and froze things that she didn't want to freeze (like her sister's heart). That's why she went into isolation...so she wouldn't cause harm to others.

Excellent! Now we're getting somewhere! So what uncontrollable inherent human trait or attribute could Elsa's power to freeze be a metaphor for?

[california boy]

Excellent! Now we're getting somewhere! So what uncontrollable inherent human trait or attribute could Elsa's power to freeze be a metaphor for?

Could it be the seemingly uncontrollable inherent need some Mormons have over obsessing with gays and who they decide to marry?

Edited February 19, 2014 by california boy

[Daniel2]

On a US-based message board, Latter-day Saints discuss whether or not the highest-grossing Disney movie of all time has a secret gay agenda.

Meanwhile, in the African nation of Gambia, leadership take a far less subtle approach in how to deal with gays...

GAMBIA: President Promises To "Fight Homosexuals Like We Fight Malaria"

"We will fight these vermins called homosexuals or gays the same way we are fighting malaria-causing mosquitoes, if not more aggressively. We will therefore not accept any friendship, aid or any other gesture that is conditional on accepting homosexuals or LGBT as they are now baptised by the powers that promote them. As far as I am concerned, LGBT can only stand for Leprosy, Gonorrhea, Bacteria and Tuberculosis; all of which are detrimental to human existence." - Gambian President Yahya Jammeh, in a nationally televised speech made today to celebrate 49 years of independence from Britain. Jammeh and 90% of Gambians are Muslim.

PREVIOUSLY: Jammeh is named one of 2013's worst anti-gay villains by Human Rights Watch. Jammehcompares himself to Mohammed because he has "cured" 68 AIDS patients with herbs. Jammeh says no amount of foreign aid will bring LGBT rights to Gambia. Jammeh threatens to decapitate "any homosexuals found in Gambia."

And in Uganda,

Ugandan Minister: We Show Tolerance To Gays By Not Slaughtering Them

Pink News reports:

Minister for Ethics and Integrity Simon Lokodo, made the comments in an interview today, following the announcement that President Yoweri Museveni would sign the law earlier this week. “We are tolerant. That’s what we are saying: we are not slaughtering them,” he said in the video posted to the Independent’s website. Of the estimated half a million gay Ugandans, he went on: “They can come and be helped to come out of this unfortunate situation… It’s like a drug addict. Drug addiction is not an innate situation, it is acquired. But they can be transformed and become better.” “So we are saying anybody found committing this incredible and abominable act should be checked and isolated from society.” Concluding, he said: “If you are found practising it, we shall take you to a cell.”Also today, Lokodo said that Ugandans would rather "die poor" and give up all international aid than repeal its brutal anti-homosexuality laws.

Interesting to see how different cultures approach the issue.

Just figured this thread could use a reality check. Thank God for the freedoms we have in the United States of America.

Edited February 19, 2014 by Daniel2

[mormonnewb]

Excellent! Now we're getting somewhere! So what uncontrollable inherent human trait or attribute could Elsa's power to freeze be a metaphor for?

 

Oh, I get it.  The supporters of gay agenda are equating Elsa's deadly and uncontrollable power with their own sexuality.  That makes perfect sense and will certainly win people to their cause.  "Give us equal rights so that we can stop the hearts of your children and turn your cities into snowbound wastelands!"

 

This is the thing that was so twisted about the blog post.  No self-respecting person would ever equate their sexuality to Elsa's powers.  For one, for most of the movie, she can't control it.  This is perhaps the one stereotype that has hurt gay people the most -- that they are lustful brutes with no ability to control their desires.

 

Secondly, Elsa's power is very dangerous and hurts others and when it is finally unleashed, mankind is pushed to the brink of extinction.  This is just the opposite of the point that gays have made with regards to, say, same-sex marriage; that their marriages will have no effect on straight marriages and society as a whole.

 

Finally, in the end, all is set right when Elsa is able to control her power and use it sparingly, if at all.  Is this what gays have been fighting for?  The right to repress their sexuality and only use it sparingly, if at all?

 

In fact, as I think about it, I'm not sure that Vladimir Putin didn't write the screenplay under a pseudonym.  This is actually much more plausible than the argument that it was written by promoters of that scary gay agenda.  Think about it.  Elsa is originally locked away (jailed) for possessing this trait.  However, when the righteous rulers are gone, she is released and all heck breaks loose, threatening the very survival of the species.  Elsa is eventually recaptured but the damage has been done (those gays sure work fast).  Fortunately, her straight sister saves the day by engaging in an act of true love (as only straight people can) now, peace and tranquility once again rule in the land, just so long as Elsa controls that whole "gay thing."

 

THE END (конец)

[Senator]

Excellent! Now we're getting somewhere! So what uncontrollable inherent human trait or attribute could Elsa's power to freeze be a metaphor for?

OH!

 

Where's Monty Python's  "She's a witch" scene when you need it?

Edited February 19, 2014 by Senator

[teddyaware]

Oh, I get it.  The supporters of gay agenda are equating Elsa's deadly and uncontrollable power with their own sexuality.  That makes perfect sense and will certainly win people to their cause.  "Give us equal rights so that we can stop the hearts of your children and turn your cities into snowbound wastelands!"

 

This is the thing that was so twisted about the blog post.  No self-respecting person would ever equate their sexuality to Elsa's powers.  For one, for most of the movie, she can't control it.  This is perhaps the one stereotype that has hurt gay people the most -- that they are lustful brutes with no ability to control their desires.

 

Secondly, Elsa's power is very dangerous and hurts others and when it is finally unleashed, mankind is pushed to the brink of extinction.  This is just the opposite of the point that gays have made with regards to, say, same-sex marriage; that their marriages will have no effect on straight marriages and society as a whole.

 

Finally, in the end, all is set right when Elsa is able to control her power and use it sparingly, if at all.  Is this what gays have been fighting for?  The right to repress their sexuality and only use it sparingly, if at all?

 

In fact, as I think about it, I'm not sure that Vladimir Putin didn't write the screenplay under a pseudonym.  This is actually much more plausible than the argument that it was written by promoters of that scary gay agenda.  Think about it.  Elsa is originally locked away (jailed) for possessing this trait.  However, when the righteous rulers are gone, she is released and all heck breaks loose, threatening the very survival of the species.  Elsa is eventually recaptured but the damage has been done (those gays sure work fast).  Fortunately, her straight sister saves the day by engaging in an act of true love (as only straight people can) now, peace and tranquility once again rule in the land, just so long as Elsa controls that whole "gay thing."

 

THE END (конец)

I don't know if there's a secret gay agenda in the movie Frozen or if there isn't. I simply wanted some input from others as to what they think Elsa's uncontrollable magic power might symbolize. What sort of potentially destructive, shame inducing, private human struggle does Elsa's uncontrollable magic power represent?

Edited February 19, 2014 by teddyaware

[california boy]

I don't know if there's a secret gay agenda in the movie Frozen or if there isn't. I simply wanted some input from others as to what they think Elsa's uncontrollable magic power might symbolize. What sort of potentially destructive, shame inducing, private human struggle does Elsa's uncontrollable magic power represent?

I think we all know where you were headed with this.  This isn't your first post about gays.

[rlds_coc_lds]

I don't know if there's a secret gay agenda in the movie Frozen or if there isn't. I simply wanted some input from others as to what they think Elsa's uncontrollable magic power might symbolize. What sort of potentially destructive, shame inducing, private human struggle does Elsa's uncontrollable magic power represent?

 

Well, if you felt like taking the same view of the movie as the aforementioned deseret news article and see it as a christian allegory, the uncontrollable power could be our inherent nature to sin. In more general terms, it could be anything that we have a hard time controlling that causes harm to others and we're ashamed of: anger, lust, greed, addictive behavior - take your pick.

[Mola Ram Suda Ram]

Excellent! Now we're getting somewhere! So what uncontrollable inherent human trait or attribute could Elsa's power to freeze be a metaphor for?

Were is the Captain Picard face palm pic when you need it.

[ALarson]

Well, if you felt like taking the same view of the movie as the aforementioned deseret news article and see it as a christian allegory, the uncontrollable power could be our inherent nature to sin. In more general terms, it could be anything that we have a hard time controlling that causes harm to others and we're ashamed of: anger, lust, greed, addictive behavior - take your pick.

This fits much better than Disney having a hidden gay agenda.

 

If there's a hidden evil agenda (as implied by the writer of the blog) one would have to believe that those behind this movie sat down, brainstormed and schemed together to come up with subliminal messages, cleverly written lyrics and dialogue, questionable characters and so on.  Then they'd have to hope that these hidden messages would get through to the children watching it.

 

That's pretty far fetched, IMO.

 

I guess the writer of this blog has disabled comments and posted this:

 

Comments have been disabled on this post due to not having the necessary time or interest to moderate the over abundance of intolerance and disrespect contained in the majority that have been left.

 

[The Nehor]

Very funny! But your answer makes me wonder all the more what Elsa's superpower could serve as a metaphor for in the lives of real-life humans?

Bronies. They are deeply broken people whose inherent creepiness worries and harms others.