rodheadlee Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 Why would you hope it happens soon? dont you believe that it will mostly be bad stuff? death destruction and fire?Only for the wicked.
rodheadlee Posted November 24, 2013 Posted November 24, 2013 D&C 130 : 15 , that is if one does not read the entire section.That's a streeeeeeeetch.
JLHPROF Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 I would never dare put a date. However, I think that certain things in the scriptures should make it clear that it should be close.It may be 20 years, 50 years, or a hundred years, but it's close, if you believe the 7000 years teaching.
ERayR Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 About one year and six months before I can possibly get ready. 2
pmccombs1 Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 CFR I'm guessing this claim is based on Joseph Smith's comments of February 14, 1835 in which he stated: "[T]he coming of the Lord, which is nigh -- even fifty-six years should wind up the scene." The comment is hotly debated between faithful LDS and their critics.
pmccombs1 Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 according to Boyd Packer its not anytime soon... It's the Church of Jesus Christ of Early-Early-Latter-Day Saints! How many generations until latter days aren't so "latter" anymore?
cdowis Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 Some random thoughts: 1. The Book of Mormon shows that things can change very quickly, from righteousness to wickedness. 2. I used to be puzzled over how the entire world would be in a war against Israel. Where was the United States in this war -- why was it not playng a major role in protecting Israel. Based in recent events, I think I have found the answer. 3. Christ prophesied that the Lamanites would tear through through the Gentiles like a lion, because of their wickedness. That prophecy is now being fulfilled (drug gangs). 4. The expansion of missionary work to "hasten the work". 5. I assumed that the temple "filling the earth" would only take place during the millenium. But the small temple program is fulfilling that prophecy. Also the expansion of family history tools and temple work -- avoiding duplicate ordinance work, indexing, etc.
Alan Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 The calamities which the Lord speaks of in D&C section 1 have not yet occured, but we do keep getting tasters. Tsunami's, typhoons, tornados, earthquakes etc are fairly commonplace and reported widely. I believe their frequency and magnitude will increase over the coming years. According to prophecy Christ will appear several times, with only the final appearance being his actual second coming in glory for all to see.Personally, i place this event at least 50 years away, but more likely a couple of hundred. A more interesting question for me is "is the time of the second coming flexible?" In other words, can we influence it? 1
Garden Girl Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 I'm 73 next month... so I don't know.... I might live another 10 - 20 years. I think we're already in the midst of the tribulation. Just look around the world, and even here in our own country. Without getting political, let me say I'm heartsick at what I see on several levels... right now I'm just holding my breath hoping my employer-based health plan doesn't get cancelled. I'm on a fixed income and have no room for increased monthly expenses. With all the wars and rumors of wars... earthquakes in diverse places... disease... famine... natural disasters... cities going bankrupt (my hometown of San Bernardino, CA and others), I'd say this is pretty much a tribulation... and could/will get worse. We've all heard stories such as this one, but this is from one of my best friends, told to me several years ago... when she and her husband were being sealed, the sealer stopped and paused a minute and then said that he was prompted to tell them that they would live to see the 2nd coming. They are now in their early 60's. Whether this comes to pass remains to be seen... My stake president is a wonderful man... very wise and when he speaks it is so obvious he has a special spirit about him... anyway, yesterday he came to our ward and told the following... that a pattern had formed on how he received inspiration/revelation for our stake... it would usually come in the early morning hours... and about a month ago he was awakened at 3:19 a.m ., and thoughts and impressions came to him. He got up, made some notes, and then went back to bed. A few days later he sent an email to the bishops saying that he needed about 20 minutes to speak to their congregations... So yesterday he came to our ward. He did not speak or make predictions of the "end of the world" per se... rather, he focused on each of us being prepared, and preparing ourselves, to be able to stand before God, and in so doing making our homes a place of peace... a holy place to stand... calling ourselves and our families to come unto Christ... gathering our family history, attending the temple... living our lives within the gospel... It was a gentle but firm "call." GG
thesometimesaint Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 I'm guessing this claim is based on Joseph Smith's comments of February 14, 1835 in which he stated: "[T]he coming of the Lord, which is nigh -- even fifty-six years should wind up the scene." The comment is hotly debated between faithful LDS and their critics. When the actual revelation is read there isn't much to debate.
thesometimesaint Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 I'm 73 next month... so I don't know.... I might live another 10 - 20 years. I think we're already in the midst of the tribulation. Just look around the world, and even here in our own country. Without getting political, let me say I'm heartsick at what I see on several levels... right now I'm just holding my breath hoping my employer-based health plan doesn't get cancelled. I'm on a fixed income and have no room for increased monthly expenses. With all the wars and rumors of wars... earthquakes in diverse places... disease... famine... natural disasters... cities going bankrupt (my hometown of San Bernardino, CA and others), I'd say this is pretty much a tribulation... and could/will get worse. We've all heard stories such as this one, but this is from one of my best friends, told to me several years ago... when she and her husband were being sealed, the sealer stopped and paused a minute and then said that he was prompted to tell them that they would live to see the 2nd coming. They are now in their early 60's. Whether this comes to pass remains to be seen... My stake president is a wonderful man... very wise and when he speaks it is so obvious he has a special spirit about him... anyway, yesterday he came to our ward and told the following... that a pattern had formed on how he received inspiration/revelation for our stake... it would usually come in the early morning hours... and about a month ago he was awakened at 3:19 a.m ., and thoughts and impressions came to him. He got up, made some notes, and then went back to bed. A few days later he sent an email to the bishops saying that he needed about 20 minutes to speak to their congregations... So yesterday he came to our ward. He did not speak or make predictions of the "end of the world" per se... rather, he focused on each of us being prepared, and preparing ourselves, to be able to stand before God, and in so doing making our homes a place of peace... a holy place to stand... calling ourselves and our families to come unto Christ... gathering our family history, attending the temple... living our lives within the gospel... It was a gentle but firm "call." GG At 73 you are covered by Medicare. San Bernardino has been going down hill from the time the Saints left the first time. Unfortunately war have been a pretty much constant state of affairs for a long time now. Your Stake President sounds like a very wise man.
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 (edited) I think it will be 2025 on Feb 14th. An alien told me so. Edited November 25, 2013 by Mola Ram Suda Ram
Avatar4321 Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 No Idea. All I do know is that the Lord will come tomorrow.
Garden Girl Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 At 73 you are covered by Medicare. San Bernardino has been going down hill from the time the Saints left the first time. Unfortunately war have been a pretty much constant state of affairs for a long time now. Your Stake President sounds like a very wise man. True, I'm covered by Medicare... it's my supplemental health insurance I worry about... I just got my booklet and they gave the standard "we may have to adjust benefits based on Patient Protection & Affordable Health Care Act"... it's the "adjustments" that may prove troublesome... And, who knows what is in store for Medicare, which is supposed to be going bankrupt... so some changes may be in the offing... As for my formerly beautiful San Bernardino... I can't believe the changes... one year when I went home for Thanksgiving, my husband and I went over and drove around, particularly to the high school where I had had such a happy time growing up. I was appalled to see the chain link fences, barred windows, and general run down appearance. Gone were the beautiful, expansive lawns, the trees, and our big "Cardinal City" sign over the wide walkway leading up to the Ad Bldg. Highland Avenue with its boutiques and specialty shops is now like a wasteland... GG
SeekingUnderstanding Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 according to Boyd Packer its not anytime soon. According to Joseph Smith, it was a hundred years ago. CFRAs cited in Bruce R McConkie's Mormon Doctrine: True it is that the day and hour of our Lord's coming are and will remain unknown, such being an incentive to all to watch and be ready at all times. But true it also is that those who watch for that great and dread day are expected to read the signs of the times so as to know the approximate time of his coming. President Wilford Woodruff taught that we do know the generation when he will come. (Discourses of Wilford Woodruff, p. 253.) [p486]"I was once praying very earnestly to know the time of the coming of the Son of Man," the Prophet Joseph Smith recorded on April 2, 1843, "when I heard a voice repeat the following: Joseph, my son, if thou livest until thou art eighty-five years old, thou shalt see the face of the Son of Man; therefore let this suffice, and trouble me no more on this matter. "I was left thus, without being able to decide whether this coming referred to the beginning of the millennium or to some previous appearing, or whether I should die and thus see his face. I believe the coming of the Son of Man will not be any sooner than that time." (D. & C. 130:14-17.) Four days later, April 6, 1843, at the General Conference of the Church, while the Spirit rested upon him, the Prophet said: "Were I going to prophesy, I would say the end would not come in 1844, 5, or 6, or in forty years. There are those of the rising generation who shall not taste death till Christ comes."A straight forward reading of this would say that Joseph thought the second coming would happen within the next 80 years (about a hundred years ago). Elder McConkie of course didn't take the straight forward reading. He goes on to state: The rising generation is the one that has just begun. Thus, technically, children born on April 6, 1843, would be the first members of the rising generation, and all children born, however many years later, to the same parents would still be members of that same rising generation. It is not unreasonable to suppose that many young men had babies at the time of this prophecy and also had other children as much as 50 or 75 years later, assuming for instance that they were married again to younger women. This very probable assumption would bring the date up to, say, the 2nd decade in the 20th century - and the children so born would be members of that same rising generation of which the Prophet spoke. Now if these children lived to the normal age of men generally they would be alive well past the year 2000 A.D. This reasoning takes on added significance when considered in connection with the revelation which states categorically that Christ will come "in the beginning of the seventh thousand years" of the earth's temporal continuance. (D. & C. 77:6, 12.) We, of course, do not know exactly how many years elapsed between Adam and the birth of Christ, but suppose it to have been 4004; nor can we be certain, from historical sources, how many years have passed since. But reading these inspired statements in connection with the signs of the times which we can interpret, it is plain that the day of the coming of the Son of Man is not far distant.
rameumptom Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 When my patriarch gave me my blessing in 1977, he said many of the youth were receiving blessings with the promise of being alive for the 2nd Coming. And it shouldn't be too much longer, since we are now "hastening the work"....
strappinglad Posted November 25, 2013 Posted November 25, 2013 When my patriarch gave me my blessing in 1977, he said many of the youth were receiving blessings with the promise of being alive for the 2nd Coming. And it shouldn't be too much longer, since we are now "hastening the work".... Well, that puts it around 2050. According to the AGW crowd , most of the coastal areas in the world will be under water and if that doesn't fulfill the ' abomination of desolation' I don't know what does.
Damien the Leper Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 When asked for a comment on the nuclear holocaust that destroyed all human life, God said, "I didn't see that one coming and it definitely throws a wrench in the wheel."
Damien the Leper Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Not until the Bride of Christ is ready Christ's bride, the Roman Catholic Church, is far from ready. We haven't even started on the design for the dress.
The Nehor Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 September 23rd 2012 at 6:00 AM Jerusalem time. My numbers were off somewhere.
The Nehor Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Oh, and Christ is not going to wait until we are ready. If we are not ready that is our problem.
Damien the Leper Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Jesus: "Knock, knock" Homeowner: "Who is it?" Jesus: "It's me Jesus. Let me in." Homeowner: "Why?" Jesus: "I'm here to save you." Homeowner: "From what?" Jesus: "What I'm going to do to you if you don't let me in."
The Nehor Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Jesus: "Knock, knock"Homeowner: "Who is it?"Jesus: "It's me Jesus. Let me in."Homeowner: "Why?"Jesus: "I'm here to save you."Homeowner: "From what?"Jesus: "What You are going to do to yourself if you don't let me in."Fixed for accuracy. 1
Damien the Leper Posted December 5, 2013 Posted December 5, 2013 Fixed for accuracy. I was hoping you'd catch that, Nehor. What I posted above came from a very misguided atheist meme that obviously misses the point.
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