The Grimace Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 I believe she answered that...it is not a chastity issue in her view and currently mine for men to see men naked and women to see women naked as long as they do not attempt to turn it into something sexual.If you believe that is wrong, perhaps you could provide some documentation from lds.org or something else about why that is so.Women can be sexually aroused by viewing erotic pictures of other women. I don't know why it's not a chastity issue.
The Nehor Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Well, after an exhaustive thorough perusal of the pictures I can now say......wait......what are we talking about again? 3
The Grimace Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 So you see all naked pictures as porn?Nope. Not me.
Calm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Women can be sexually aroused by viewing erotic pictures of other women. I don't know why it's not a chastity issue.Again, key here is "erotic".....
The Grimace Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 Again, key here is "erotic".....A term that is relative and as individual as the viewer.
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Well, after an exhaustive thorough perusal of the pictures I can now say......wait......what are we talking about again?Did you get out the magnifying glass for a careful clinical examination? And do you have an artistic critique on the "artist's" aesthetic work?
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Nope. Not me.No some are just plain disgusting....really, talking about crimes against humanity....take pity on the internet browsers...
bluebell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 A term that is relative and as individual as the viewer.Thats why I said that I believed it was generally ok and never ok when it comes to porn. Speaking as a woman, i feel comfortable saying that generally women do not find non pornographic pictures of other women erotic. Do you believe that men generally find non pornographic pictures of naked men sexually appealing?
The Grimace Posted August 1, 2013 Author Posted August 1, 2013 Thats why I said that I believed it was generally ok and never ok when it comes to porn.Speaking as a woman, i feel comfortable saying that generally women do not find non pornographic pictures of other women erotic.Do you believe that men generally find non pornographic pictures of naked men sexually appealing?I believe what people find sexually appealing is as varied as people. What I find appealing may be as boring as custard to the next.
bluebell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I believe what people find sexually appealing is as varied as people. What I find appealing may be as boring as custard to the next.I guess we disagree. I think that it's generally easy to believe that heterosexual women would not find those pictures erotic.
Sleeper Cell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I believe what people find sexually appealing is as varied as people. What I find appealing may be as boring as custard to the next.Hey. I like custard. 1
jim_mason Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) Me being a woman makes it appropriate. Him being a man makes it inappropriate. If we were talking about naked pictures of men, the reverse would apply.No double standard.It is a double standard, you can look at nude women for "educational purposes" but a man is wrong for looking at nude women for "educational purposes". That is a double standard. Additionally if our bodies are so sacred, shouldn't that mean that no one views our nudity nor should we view the nudity of another except for our opposite gender spouse? Edited August 1, 2013 by jim_mason
bluebell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) It is a double standard, you can look at nude women for "educational purposes" but a man is wrong for looking at nude women for "educational purposes". That is a double standard. Additionally if our bodies are so sacred, shouldn't that mean that no one views our nudity nor should we view the nudity of another except for our opposite gender spouse?I've already explained why I don't believe it's at all a double standard. If you want to disagree with that that's fine.I don't believe it's a double standard that I can use the women's locker room at the pool (where naked women are present) but that it is inappropriate for my husband to use it. Neither do I believe that it is abusing the sacredness of our bodies for us women in there to be naked in each others presence if it happens. I hear what you are saying but don't share your opinion. Edited August 1, 2013 by bluebell
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I've already explained why I don't believe it's at all a double standard. If you want to disagree with that that's fine.I don't believe it's a double standard that I can use the women's locker room at the pool (where naked women are present) but that it is inappropriate for my husband to use it. Neither do I believe that it is abusing the sacredness of our bodies for us women in there to be naked in each others presence if it happens.I hear what you are saying but don't share your opinion.Would it make a difference if a Sister had SSA?
bluebell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 Would it make a difference if a Sister had SSA?If a woman was looking at those pictures in a sexual way, then, as has already been discussed, I think that would make a difference.
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 If a woman was looking at those pictures in a sexual way, then, as has already been discussed, I think that would make a difference.So you would favor posting such pictures on the internet with the assumption that men and women would not use them in the wrong way? Hence the sin is in the eyes of the beholder?
bluebell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) So you would favor posting such pictures on the internet with the assumption that men and women would not use them in the wrong way? Hence the sin is in the eyes of the beholder?I don't favor posting naked pictures on the internet at all. I disapprove of the website and don't believe it's o.k. to make our naked bodies public. Edited August 1, 2013 by bluebell
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I don't favor posting naked pictures on the internet at all. I disapprove of the website and don't believe it's o.k. to make our naked bodies public.Oh, sorry misunderstood.
bluebell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 No problem. I'm sure sometimes I'm confusing in the way I try to explain myself.
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 No problem. I'm sure sometimes I'm confusing in the way I try to explain myself.I suppose if a woman or man wants to strut her or his stuff, the best place to do it is on the Internet rather than the sidewalk as then there is a reduction in the amount of visual contact by those who would prefer not to have the view.
bluebell Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I suppose if a woman or man wants to strut her or his stuff, the best place to do it is on the Internet rather than the sidewalk as then there is a reduction in the amount of visual contact by those who would prefer not to have the view.That's true.
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 That's true.Yeah an inconvenient truth. I suppose there is also something to be said in support of the concept that Americans are the biggest prudes in the industrialised Western world, which is why our porn industry flourishes and perhaps why Utah supposedly has the highest porn subscription rate in America. I have also noticed that Indiana with its tough pornography laws is rife with gentlemens clubs and adult bookstores, and Vermont which has no general pornography statutes has virtually none.
Garden Girl Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 (edited) deleted... Edited August 1, 2013 by Garden Girl
Senator Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I have also noticed that Indiana with its tough pornography laws is rife with gentlemens clubs and adult bookstores, and Vermont which has no general pornography statutes has virtually none.I would like to see the studies/statistics on that claim.
Stone holm Posted August 1, 2013 Posted August 1, 2013 I would like to see the studies/statistics on that claim.Not referring to any studies or statistics. But I drive around Vermont and visit Indiana a lot -- you drive through a Vermont town or city and you do not see anywhere near the same number of Erotic Dance clubs and Adult bookstores as you do driving through say Ft. Wayne, Indiana or South Bend or you pick the Hoosier City. And Indiana is one of the most conservative States in the Union.
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