Undocumented Members

[The Nehor]

1 hour ago, bsjkki said:

The backlog is due to Biden breaking the asylum process. See backlog chart. 
 

Can we agree that these 25000 listed should have been handed over and the 33,000 in California prisons should be handed over upon release? https://www.dhs.gov/news/2026/02/05/murderers-sex-offenders-and-drug-traffickers-released-jails-directly-california
 

https://www.dhs.gov/wow

I don’t under why you want convicted criminals to stay. 
 

Plus over a million have final removal orders. 
 

 

 

 

Nope, Biden saw the growing backlog and wanted to fix it. The GOP (and too many Democrats) wouldn’t back increasing resources that would actually clear out the backlog. A President can’t legally apportion money to provide those resources.

The problem with asylum backlogs  ARE NOT and have never been a presidential problem. It is a congressional problem. Presidents unjustly get the blame for it. Those ridiculous congressional “trips” to the border were farcical theater. Congress has been abdicating its responsibility for this situation and many others by refusing to function. Part of that is on voters electing fools who run for government office vowing not to actually govern.

[bsjkki]

57 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

Nope, Biden saw the growing backlog and wanted to fix it. The GOP (and too many Democrats) wouldn’t back increasing resources that would actually clear out the backlog. A President can’t legally apportion money to provide those resources.

The problem with asylum backlogs  ARE NOT and have never been a presidential problem. It is a congressional problem. Presidents unjustly get the blame for it. Those ridiculous congressional “trips” to the border were farcical theater. Congress has been abdicating its responsibility for this situation and many others by refusing to function. Part of that is on voters electing fools who run for government office vowing not to actually govern.

Well, at least now it is decreasing. 

[The Nehor]

4 hours ago, bsjkki said:

Well, at least now it is decreasing. 

No, it is actually not. Reports from late last year said there were over 3.5 million asylum cases pending. There was a slightly higher high earlier in 2025 but the dip has been small and pretty insignificant. The wait time for a hearing is still around three years. The dip is not due to efficiency. It is less people seeking asylum status in the US for obvious reasons.

Edited February 7 by The Nehor

[bsjkki]

13 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

No, it is actually not. Reports from late last year said there were over 3.5 million asylum cases pending. There was a slightly higher high earlier in 2025 but the dip has been small and pretty insignificant. The wait time for a hearing is still around three years. The dip is not due to efficiency. It is less people seeking asylum status in the US for obvious reasons.

So there is a dip and the border is now closed. Isn’t this wise since the system was overwhelmed? 

Even when Biden increased judges from 400 to 700 the backlog increased enormously due to the change in border policies that increased asylum claims. 

[The Nehor]

1 hour ago, bsjkki said:

So there is a dip and the border is now closed. Isn’t this wise since the system was overwhelmed? 

No, because it is a violation of international agreements and basic humanitarian principles. Also the decreased interest in asylum in the US is that the US is seen as an increasingly unsafe place for migrants of all kinds due to the blatant racism and authoritarian and unconstitutional use of federal power to persecute and detain people based on racial identification.

Also the whole becoming an untrustworthy international pariah thing and tearing down the post-World War 2 economic world order by threatening allies, ending China’s economic isolation, and alienating liberal democracies is going to economically hurt pretty much everyone in the United States. The mass deportation is tied to all of this. So I am going to mark it as unwise.

It will be decades at least before most of the rest of the world will consider the US to be at all trustworthy. They may never trust the US again. The minor dip isn’t worth the cost.

1 hour ago, bsjkki said:

Even when Biden increased judges from 400 to 700 the backlog increased enormously due to the change in border policies that increased asylum claims. 

Yeah, they need more judges and more legal staff. We don’t need a bloated ICE that ignores the law and extrajudicially murders people. That might push down the number of asylum seekers but it also has a lot of other negative impacts. We could have put all that ICE money into immigration judges and just started dealing with the backlog. Instead we chose cruelty and violence because that is who we are now. Hooray……..

[bsjkki]

 

As people attend their asylum hearings and are denied asylum, do you believe they then need to leave the country? Most have not committed crimes and even under Biden, only 40% of claims were approved. Currently it’s at 26% which with the huge influx of claims makes sense. People had learned to say the words but don’t have the evidence to support their claims and come from safe countries. 
 

So, if we surge judges, it means more people must leave even sooner. Actual asylum hearings have never been a rubber stamp. 
 

The 5th circuit ruling yesterday (will still head to Supreme Court) also changes things dramatically. No bond and in detention until legal process plays out instead of being released with court date. Many would prefer to just go back in those circumstances. 

Edited February 7 by bsjkki

[longview]

15 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Nope, Biden saw the growing backlog and wanted to fix it.

No. Biden was mentally deficient and stumbling all over the place. He could NOT even ride his bike. He would wander off the dais and meander into the bushes.

This was an "auto-pen" administration run by globalist new world elites. Both Europe, Canada and the US were following WEF guidelines and orchestrating massive inundation of western countries. There was heavy stealth funding for invaders to make the "pilgrimage" to the place of free welfare, free housing (even in luxury hotels), free transportation (some were flown directly into sanctuary cities), free college, free everything having been carefully instructed that they were to "vote" for lefty parties. Minnesota is an APPALLING example of corruption. So are California and other sanctuary jurisdictions.

10 hours ago, The Nehor said:

14 hours ago, bsjkki said:

Well, at least now it is decreasing. 

No, it is actually not. Reports from late last year said there were over 3.5 million asylum cases pending.

100% due to "catch and release" (wink wink) policies. Which was totally against the law already on the books (blatantly ignored, making themselves above the law).

9 hours ago, bsjkki said:

So there is a dip and the border is now closed. Isn’t this wise since the system was overwhelmed? 

This was done deliberately to bring about Obama's "transformation of America". That is, making the US into a 3rd world country. A new world order without borders. But with a LOT less individual freedom. In Red China, the "drones" are required to obtain permission for new housing, travel outside their neighborhoods, and other basic things.

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

No, because it is a violation of international agreements and basic humanitarian principles.

W H A T ? ? ? You don't mean WEF guidelines? 

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Also the decreased interest in asylum in the US is that the US is seen as an increasingly unsafe place for migrants of all kinds due to the blatant racism and authoritarian and unconstitutional use of federal power to persecute and detain people based on racial identification.

Doge uncovered massive fraud in funding for extremely inappropriate "social engineering" programs around the world. The funding has dried up for massive "caravans" traversing northward thru Mexico (with its explicit assistance). Your tone of outrage and hysteria is completely overdone!

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Also the whole becoming an untrustworthy international pariah thing and tearing down the post-World War 2 economic world order by threatening allies,

This WEF globalist scheme was supported by BOTH the Bushes and the Clintons and their allies. Which resulted in massive displacement of industries off-shoring to other countries (aided with pernicious tax policies). The important American middle class were devastated.

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

ending China’s economic isolation,

This can be blamed on Kissinger (even though he worked for the GOP).

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

and alienating liberal democracies is going to economically hurt pretty much everyone in the United States.

Going into a lather is NOT helping you.

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

The mass deportation is tied to all of this. So I am going to mark it as unwise.

This is only sanity. America CANNOT be a welfare "meals on wheels" agency for the ENTIRE world.

8 hours ago, The Nehor said:

It will be decades at least before most of the rest of the world will consider the US to be at all trustworthy. They may never trust the US again. The minor dip isn’t worth the cost.

I sure hope so! Thank the Lord we have broken the GRIP of WEF conspiracy. Down with globalists. Up with freedom loving patriots.

[Tacenda]

56 minutes ago, longview said:

No. Biden was mentally deficient and stumbling all over the place. He could NOT even ride his bike. He would wander off the dais and meander into the bushes.

This was an "auto-pen" administration run by globalist new world elites. Both Europe, Canada and the US were following WEF guidelines and orchestrating massive inundation of western countries. There was heavy stealth funding for invaders to make the "pilgrimage" to the place of free welfare, free housing (even in luxury hotels), free transportation (some were flown directly into sanctuary cities), free college, free everything having been carefully instructed that they were to "vote" for lefty parties. Minnesota is an APPALLING example of corruption. So are California and other sanctuary jurisdictions.

100% due to "catch and release" (wink wink) policies. Which was totally against the law already on the books (blatantly ignored, making themselves above the law).

This was done deliberately to bring about Obama's "transformation of America". That is, making the US into a 3rd world country. A new world order without borders. But with a LOT less individual freedom. In Red China, the "drones" are required to obtain permission for new housing, travel outside their neighborhoods, and other basic things.

W H A T ? ? ? You don't mean WEF guidelines? 

Doge uncovered massive fraud in funding for extremely inappropriate "social engineering" programs around the world. The funding has dried up for massive "caravans" traversing northward thru Mexico (with its explicit assistance). Your tone of outrage and hysteria is completely overdone!

This WEF globalist scheme was supported by BOTH the Bushes and the Clintons and their allies. Which resulted in massive displacement of industries off-shoring to other countries (aided with pernicious tax policies). The important American middle class were devastated.

This can be blamed on Kissinger (even though he worked for the GOP).

Going into a lather is NOT helping you.

This is only sanity. America CANNOT be a welfare "meals on wheels" agency for the ENTIRE world.

I sure hope so! Thank the Lord we have broken the GRIP of WEF conspiracy. Down with globalists. Up with freedom loving patriots.

sad

[The Nehor]

5 hours ago, longview said:

No. Biden was mentally deficient and stumbling all over the place. He could NOT even ride his bike. He would wander off the dais and meander into the bushes.

This was an "auto-pen" administration run by globalist new world elites. Both Europe, Canada and the US were following WEF guidelines and orchestrating massive inundation of western countries. There was heavy stealth funding for invaders to make the "pilgrimage" to the place of free welfare, free housing (even in luxury hotels), free transportation (some were flown directly into sanctuary cities), free college, free everything having been carefully instructed that they were to "vote" for lefty parties. Minnesota is an APPALLING example of corruption. So are California and other sanctuary jurisdictions.

100% due to "catch and release" (wink wink) policies. Which was totally against the law already on the books (blatantly ignored, making themselves above the law).

This was done deliberately to bring about Obama's "transformation of America". That is, making the US into a 3rd world country. A new world order without borders. But with a LOT less individual freedom. In Red China, the "drones" are required to obtain permission for new housing, travel outside their neighborhoods, and other basic things.

W H A T ? ? ? You don't mean WEF guidelines? 

Doge uncovered massive fraud in funding for extremely inappropriate "social engineering" programs around the world. The funding has dried up for massive "caravans" traversing northward thru Mexico (with its explicit assistance). Your tone of outrage and hysteria is completely overdone!

This WEF globalist scheme was supported by BOTH the Bushes and the Clintons and their allies. Which resulted in massive displacement of industries off-shoring to other countries (aided with pernicious tax policies). The important American middle class were devastated.

This can be blamed on Kissinger (even though he worked for the GOP).

Going into a lather is NOT helping you.

This is only sanity. America CANNOT be a welfare "meals on wheels" agency for the ENTIRE world.

I sure hope so! Thank the Lord we have broken the GRIP of WEF conspiracy. Down with globalists. Up with freedom loving patriots.

I didn’t mean that Kissinger ended Chinese isolation. I meant the trade agreements designed to hamper China’s military development that the US orchestrated. With all the tariff bumbling nations are turning to China as a more stable and reliable trade partner.

Nope. All wrong. Some of this is blatant misinformation. Most of it is conspiracy nonsense about UN globalism and secret societies trying to destroy the world by uniting it or something. Also the whole bringing in illegal immigrants so they will vote for progressive policies when undocumented immigrants cannot vote in all federal and state elections. Note there are limited voting rights granted to all residents in some local jurisdictions but these are limited to local elections. This whole conspiracy relies on believing that people are being imported en masse to cheat on elections. Note this means that the individuals are risking jail time and deportation to case *checks notes* one illegal vote. Almost no one would take that risk. It is nonsensical if you think about it for five minutes. It requires a “hive mind” of invaders all operating as one against their own personal interests for an abstract goal. It is the kind of thing that leads to xenophobia in all forms. It is how anti-semitism and racism and homophobia and transphobia are sold. You have to concoct a narrative that they are all coming to destroy you, destroy/corrupt your children/women, and/or steal your stuff. It is moral panic. Again. And we learn nothing and fall for it EVERY TIME. Instead of blaming problems on the powerful we blame the marginalized and the outcasts. It is easier and doesn’t require any risk. We are cowards.

 

[longview]

4 hours ago, Tacenda said:

sad

7 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

We are cowards.

Minnesota:  Don't believe your LYING eyes.   

[Calm]

10 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Instead of blaming problems on the powerful we blame the marginalized and the outcasts.

What is odd to me is the business owners who are likely providing the most jobs for the undocumented (and it seems like knowing the jobs are here is what would likely drive most immigration here these days as there are safer English speaking countries—up to 65% of second language worldwide is English apparently—better welfare, and healthcare***) are likely Republican leaning since it’s more probable that small business owners are Republican as well as owners in the industries that employ the most undocumented, agriculture and construction.

So the powerful that are most directly benefiting are the group the Republican voter could impact the most, imo, if the grassroots members focused their attention on them.

***When we were in Canada 30ish years ago, there were a number of Individuals and families that came to Canada as a step to immigrating to the US.  They all at least liked Canada, but were looking for the big bucks of the US. 

Edited February 8 by Calm

[The Nehor]

56 minutes ago, longview said:

Minnesota:  Don't believe your LYING eyes.   

The executions by ICE there? No, I believe it.

[The Nehor]

27 minutes ago, Calm said:

What is odd to me is the business owners who are likely providing the most jobs for the undocumented (and it seems like knowing the jobs are here is what would likely drive most immigration here these days as there are safer countries with better welfare and healthcare***) are likely Republican leaning since it’s more probable that small business owners are Republican as well as owners in the industries that employ the most undocumented, agriculture and construction.

So the powerful that are most directly benefiting are the group the Republican voter could impact the most, imo, if the grassroots members focused their attention on them.

***When we were in Canada 30ish years ago, there were a number of Individuals and families that came to Canada as a step to immigrating to the US.  They all at least liked Canada, but were looking for the big bucks of the US. 

There was a weird conceit that only “CRIMINAL” immigrants would be deported despite no such proviso being given. Now we see Trump votes watching undocumented or legally present but non-citizen spouses and families being detained indefinitely and/or deported. Turns out thinking that the people you like are “one of the good ones” doesn’t really matter. The mask has slipped even more lately about the blatant racism involved and many voters in minority groups are experiencing voter regret.

Womp. Womp. Womp.

[longview]

4 hours ago, The Nehor said:

The executions by ICE there? No, I believe it.

Nice job strenuously evading the massive Somali theft and deceptions.

By the way, Petti brought his handgun looking for trouble. Sounds like you. Mz. Good drove a pretty good sized SUV. Run over them like a good jihadi would.

[Danzo]

3 hours ago, longview said:

Nice job strenuously evading the massive Somali theft and deceptions.

 

I like how you use the word Somali to describe the thefts.  Somehow it isn't individuals stealing things, its a nationality that is stealing things.

 

Edited February 8 by Danzo

[Danzo]

3 hours ago, longview said:

 

By the way, Petti brought his handgun looking for trouble. 

you seem to know a lot about what Mr Petti was looking for. Did He confide in you?

 

[Calm]

4 hours ago, longview said:

Petti brought his handgun looking for trouble

Or maybe he just had a habit of carrying his handgun at all times like quite a few people I have come across.

Or perhaps you think we should assume anyone choosing to carry a handgun is looking for trouble?

[Calm]

2 hours ago, Danzo said:

I like how you use the word Somali to describe the thefts.  Somehow it isn't individuals stealing things, its a nationality that is stealing things.

 

And not very accurate given that Feeding the Future boss is a white American woman and that is likely the biggest pandemic relief fraud we got, though maybe labeling her acts as German theft (her name is likely German origin) works for some.

It also seems most involved were American citizens.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feeding_Our_Future

When I first heard Somali thefts, I thought they were talking about crime in Somali.

It would be weird to start hearing “European theft” or “European fraud”….and we would be hearing it a lot as the majority of fraud arrests appear to be of white individuals in the US (given the percentage of population that is white, this is not unexpected).

Edited February 8 by Calm

[MustardSeed]

5 hours ago, Calm said:

Or maybe he just had a habit of carrying his handgun at all times like quite a few people I have come across.

Or perhaps you think we should assume anyone choosing to carry a handgun is looking for trouble?

I was going to say this.  
My sister carries a hand gun as does the female singer in our band.  
if one goes to or is near a protest are they looking for trouble?  If one assists a woman who has been thrust to the ground, are they a trouble maker?  I’d need more information. 
 

[bluebell]

On 2/6/2026 at 4:16 PM, Danzo said:

I assume you are perfectly thrilled and happy with all people who serve their sentences being released to the public (except those scary foreigners, who deserve extra punishment)

Also, I assume by your comments that you are appalled when ICE removes someone who is not in Jail and has never been convicted of any crime.

(unless, of course, criminality is just a pretext)

 

It seems like bsj is just alluding to the fact that citizens do (and should) have different legal rights than people who are here illegally. Especially if they have been convicted of a crime.

That seems like a fairly uncontroversial opinion.  Though we might disagree with the best way to go about it, I don’t see the point in assuming those who see things differently are insincere or irrational.

[The Nehor]

15 hours ago, longview said:

Nice job strenuously evading the massive Somali theft and deceptions.

And the racism mask slips further.

15 hours ago, longview said:

By the way, Petti brought his handgun looking for trouble. Sounds like you. Mz. Good drove a pretty good sized SUV. Run over them like a good jihadi would.

And defending indefensible executions by government thugs.