pogi Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 Best line of the entire video - "You may think I'm overstating the case... Think again sunshine!"
pogi Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 Second best line - Men... you can say to yourselves narcissistically and solipsistically "the church does not express what I believe properly". Who cares what you believe!
pogi Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 Third best line - "You are churches for God's sake! Stop fighting for social justice! Quit saving the bloody planet!"
The Nehor Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 Oh the guy who thinks we need to be sexual socialists to prevent mass murder? What is he blathering about now? -1
Kenngo1969 Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 2 hours ago, The Nehor said: Oh the guy who thinks we need to be sexual socialists to prevent mass murder? What is he blathering about now? CFR. Support or retract. Thanks.
The Nehor Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 39 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: CFR. Support or retract. Thanks. Nah, pointless. I will show what he said. You will respond that he attempted to correct and clarify what he said. I will point out that the distinctions aren’t significant enough to change the meaning. We will probably get bogged down talking about the definitions of specific words. Someone else will call one or both of us an incel. A short-term alliance forms to shout that person down until we get back to the original argument. I make a couple of jokes. Some land. Some don’t. It ends with both of us thinking we achieved utter victory. Summarizing it is much quicker than playing it out and: -1
Kenngo1969 Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) @The Nehor "Nah, pointless" and, "Ain't nobody got time for that" is not a response. Support or retract. Thanks. Edited July 14, 2022 by Kenngo1969
The Nehor Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 18 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: @The Nehor "Nah, pointless" and, "Ain't nobody got time for that" is not a response. Support or retract. Thanks. Support! Do you want to Counter, Confront, or Evade? -2
Calm Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) For those of us who aren’t interested in watching something without knowing the basic premise…a summary please. Edited July 14, 2022 by Calm 3
The Nehor Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, Calm said: For those of us who aren’t interested in watching something without knowing the basic premise… It is a non-Christian who doesn’t understand Christianity lecturing churches on how they must save the poor messed up men by giving them things to live for that generally don’t fall under the gospel in just about every Christian understanding of the gospel. Good breakdown here: https://relevantmagazine.com/current/buzzworthy/jordan-petersons-message-to-christian-churches-is-nonsense/ He is desperate to become relevant again after his stubborn transphobia and his recent animated crazy talk got him booted from some social media platforms. 2
california boy Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 Well if he was suppose to be giving reasons for me to join organized religion, it did the opposite for me. It felt more like he was enticing them into a trap where they would no long have thoughts of their own, but conform to what religion wants them to believe whether it is true or not. He seemed like a jerk trying to treat young men like they were his children and can't think for themselves. I would really like to know why you thought that was a good video to share.
california boy Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 15 minutes ago, The Nehor said: It is a non-Christian who doesn’t understand Christianity lecturing churches on how they must save the poor messed up men by giving them things to live for that generally don’t fall under the gospel in just about every Christian understanding of the gospel. Good breakdown here: https://relevantmagazine.com/current/buzzworthy/jordan-petersons-message-to-christian-churches-is-nonsense/ He is desperate to become relevant again after his stubborn transphobia and his recent animated crazy talk got him booted from some social media platforms. I certainly got the "This is only for straight men" message loud and clear. And I have never heard of the guy until today. Hope to never hear about him again.
Kenngo1969 Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, The Nehor said: Support! Do you want to Counter, Confront, or Evade? I've already made the request. If you lack the ability or the inclination to respond, that inability or refusal speaks for itself. Edited July 15, 2022 by Kenngo1969
Calm Posted July 14, 2022 Posted July 14, 2022 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: Good breakdown here: https://relevantmagazine.com/current/buzzworthy/jordan-petersons-message-to-christian-churches-is-nonsense/ I don’t know if that is an accurate portrayal (definitely don’t want to watch it now), but I like their focus on what Christianity is here for. 1
The Nehor Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 2 hours ago, california boy said: I certainly got the "This is only for straight men" message loud and clear. And I have never heard of the guy until today. Hope to never hear about him again. He mostly avoids lgbt issues from what I remember.
filovirus Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, The Nehor said: He mostly avoids lgbt issues from what I remember. Didn’t he come to prominence by refusing to use the pronouns that some of his students were asking him to use? Accused the Canadian government that it was a type of compelled speech if they made him do so. Edited July 15, 2022 by filovirus
The Nehor Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 1 hour ago, filovirus said: Didn’t he come to prominence by refusing to use the pronouns that some of his students were asking him to use? Accused the Canadian government that it was a type of compelled speech if they made him do so. He did but it is usually on the periphery of those issues. He was also banned from Twitter for “deadnaming” a transgender person. Yeah, my comment was probably overly simplistic. More accurate probably to say that lgbt issues aren’t central to his agenda. They are more like an attention button he presses when he wants articles written about him. -1
Kenngo1969 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 9 hours ago, The Nehor said: Nah, pointless. I will show what he said. You will respond that he attempted to correct and clarify what he said. I will point out that the distinctions aren’t significant enough to change the meaning. We will probably get bogged down talking about the definitions of specific words. Someone else will call one or both of us an incel. A short-term alliance forms to shout that person down until we get back to the original argument. I make a couple of jokes. Some land. Some don’t. It ends with both of us thinking we achieved utter victory. I know it's fun for you to put words in other people's mouths and to take flamethrowers mercilessly to straw men, but do not do that with me. 4
The Nehor Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Kenngo1969 said: I know it's fun for you to put words in other people's mouths and to take flamethrowers mercilessly to straw men, but do not do that with me. If I was going to go into battle with the intent of flamethrowering a strawman I can assure I have enough self-respect to believe I would decisively win. Definitely wouldn’t have it end in a draw. -3
Kenngo1969 Posted July 15, 2022 Posted July 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, The Nehor said: If I was going to go into battle with the intent of flamethrowering a strawman I can assure I have enough self-respect to believe I would decisively win. Definitely wouldn’t have it end in a draw. Inane asshattery might play well with everybody else in your life. I'll leave you to it. 2
The Nehor Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 18 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said: Inane asshattery might play well with everybody else in your life. I'll leave you to it. It does. You should come see us at the local theater: “The Clinically Insane Asses and Their Amusingly Misshapen Hats” -1
Rivers Posted July 16, 2022 Author Posted July 16, 2022 21 hours ago, filovirus said: Didn’t he come to prominence by refusing to use the pronouns that some of his students were asking him to use? Accused the Canadian government that it was a type of compelled speech if they made him do so. Yes. He came into prominence by being a sane person. 2
2BizE Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 I thought the message to Christian churches is that they are just playing church rather than being a real church.
The Nehor Posted July 16, 2022 Posted July 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Rivers said: Yes. He came into prominence by being a sane person. He appears to have lost that attribute somewhere along the way.
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