Hello, I am new here.

[ProphetShiloh]

5 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

A delightfully coy way of saying we need to undo Official Declaration 2?

That actually wasn't specifically what I had in mind, but that development also can be seen for what it is when the master blueprint is understood.

I was referring to some difficulties that came into being during the administration of President Heber J. Grant.  He changed the manner in which the Melchizedek Priesthood is ordained upon people.  It was later corrected by President David O. McKay (IIRC).  However, nothing tangible was done to correct the problems that were introduced in the intervening time of the erroneous procedure.

[Raingirl]

Sigh. Someone left the door open again. 

[Olmec Donald]

1 hour ago, ProphetShiloh said:

The evidence that I have is a chain of revelations containing prophecies that I uniquely fulfill.

[The Prophet Onias] was the Elias forerunner prophet to prepare the people for the return of the Messiah.

If his revelations are examined carefully it says that the successor of the Prophet Onias would be the One Mighty and Strong.

This is where I come in.  I fulfill all of the qualifications in the body of oracles that the Prophet Onias received, as well as others in the Bible and the D&C.

 

4 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I said that the LDS people would eventually appoint me [president].

 

Your paradigm is certainly different from mine. 

I subscribe to the "by their fruits ye shall know them" school of thought, not the "by their claims ye shall know them" school of thought. 

I repeat my request that you tell us one of your prophecies.  No link necessary, just post it. 

[ProphetShiloh]

7 minutes ago, Olmec Donald said:

Your paradigm is certainly different from mine. 

I subscribe to the "by their fruits ye shall know them" school of thought, not the "by their claims ye shall know them" school of thought. 

I repeat my request that you tell us one of your prophecies.  No link necessary, just post it. 

I get the "by their fruits ye shall know them" distinction, and I certainly do encourage you to comply with this.

In so doing you should be willing to admit that the unique perspective that I bring is one of the most important fruits that you can sample.  I teach things that are a completely new paradigm.  This means at the very least that I deserve credit for entirely unique and original thought.  A rarity these days.

The fruits of a modern prophet is they shift the paradigm of religion into a higher state, all without contradicting anything previously revealed by God.

How about the fruits of Russell M. Nelson.  Maybe the law in D&C 43:3-5 is of no importance to you, but Russell M. Nelson doesn't have a lawful claim to let people refer to him as the Lord's Anointed Prophet.  He is barren of those fruits, but people just wink and look the other way because there are so many others sharing in the delusion to think that he is such.

Perhaps his fruits of contradicting the word of God in a multitude of ways is of no concern to you either?

[Olmec Donald]

1 hour ago, ProphetShiloh said:

How about the fruits of Russell M. Nelson...

I'm no longer LDS so I'm not up to speed on Russel M. Nelson.

1 hour ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I get the "by their fruits ye shall know them" distinction, and I certainly do encourage you to comply with this.

In so doing you should be willing to admit that the unique perspective that I bring is one of the most important fruits that you can sample.  I teach things that are a completely new paradigm.  This means at the very least that I deserve credit for entirely unique and original thought.  A rarity these days.

I am not familiar enough with the thought systems of other self-proclaimed prophets to know that your thoughts are unique and original, but that is plausible.  However "entirely unique and original thought" is not in and of itself evidence that someone is a prophet. 

It is also plausible to me that the LDS Church lost something between the early days of Joseph Smith and today.  But you are the third One Mighty and Strong that I've encountered, so forgive me if I'm skeptical.

So, are you willing to post any of your prophecies or revelations?  

Edited November 14, 2021 by Olmec Donald

[Calm]

Finally got back to this thread.  Thanks for answering my questions.

[ProphetShiloh]

1 hour ago, Olmec Donald said:

I'm no longer LDS so I'm not up to speed on Russel M. Nelson.

I am not familiar enough with the thought systems of other self-proclaimed prophets to know that your thoughts are unique and original, but that is plausible.  However "entirely unique and original thought" is not in and of itself evidence that someone is a prophet. 

It is also plausible to me that the LDS Church lost something between the early days of Joseph Smith and today.  But you are the third One Mighty and Strong that I've encountered, so forgive me if I'm skeptical.

So, are you willing to post any of your prophecies or revelations?  

I was notified by the admin of this website that I am disallowed from spamming this site with links to any of my materials.

I think it stands to reason that making a wholesale quote of the entirety of such material would not be welcomed either.

Edited November 14, 2021 by ProphetShiloh

[Olmec Donald]

23 minutes ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I think it stands to reason that making a wholesale quote of the entirety of such material would not be welcomed either.

Okay, you may be right.

Can you do a non-wholesale quote?  

Or a one or two paragraph description of one of your revelations? 

Or how about this:  Could you list several of your beliefs or teachings, like the Articles of Faith that Joseph Smith came up with when asked about his beliefs?

Edited November 14, 2021 by Olmec Donald

[let’s roll]

4 hours ago, Raingirl said:

Sigh. Someone left the door open again. 

I blame Bruno  Mars.

[let’s roll]

6 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

The first thing is to expose all of the corruption and falsehoods that have crept into the Church so that the people will have a clear choice whether they want to participate in building Zion according to celestial law (D&C 105:5) or if they prefer to side with Babylon and move in that direction.  This setting in order will entail a massive feast on new "thus saith the Lord" revelations that set straight the many controversies and corruptions of the LDS Church.

High on the list is to immediately put a full stop to the financial pillaging of the members.  What they call the law of tithing is an abomination in the sight of God that robs everyone (rich and poor) of their ability to establish an eternal inheritance.  People boast thinking that they have eternal families, but they have no eternal inheritance by which to take care of them.  What is being done right now is a solemn mockery in the sight of God. The celestial economic system was designed for the saints to escape the financial bondage of Babylon.  As it stands right now, the LDS members are being pillaged by the LDS Church and Babylon both.  It really really sucks financially to be LDS right now.  The 100+ billion that the Church has invested in stocks and bonds will be liquidated and used to establish United Orders so that the Saints can borrow money at 0% interest rates.  (Some fees like PMI may be required on some loans, but not to exceed 2%.)

Everyone will want to keep their financial records from their tithing settlements because their just tithe shall be calculated in the simple manner that the Lord revealed through Joseph Smith, Jr.  A person's just tithe is based upon their net worth and increase of net worth from year to year. Calculating their tithe based upon their raw income is a gross perversion.  All that people have overpaid in tithes will be credited toward their inheritance and accounted for in the common fund of the United Order.  If they have need of these funds, they can draw them down in the process the lord calls redeeming them.  Otherwise, they remain available for others of the order to borrow with zero interest so that they can escape the financial bondage of Babylon and the usury that it allows.  Zion shall begin to thrive exceedingly if the people truly catch the vision of this free-market economic system that does away with usury and incentivizes people to build up their abundance instead of living in lavish consumption.

All of the ordinance records will need to be set in order as well.  The corruptions to the temple rites will be corrected.  Those who have or don't have priesthood will be set in order.  Families who are eternal shall be set in order in the way that God has revealed.

The political laws of the civic government will be set in order by repealing all laws that trespass the boundaries of individual sovereignty.  This will of course take some time as the people need to be convinced of the truth of how essential it is to unleash true liberty and get the oppression of Babylon and its micromanagement done away with.

I figure that is a pretty good start.  Mostly it will be a lot of hard work on everyone's part that I suspect some will love and that some will hate.

From a guy who says he’s not running for prophet, declaring that the first thing you would do as prophet is cut tithing sounds very much like a candidate for political office promising to cut taxes.  That said, I suppose your statement that tithing can be avoided altogether if one always spends more than they make will be appealing to some.

[bluebell]

14 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

The Lord gave me this name to identify me as the individual prophesied of in Genesis 49.

It's significance is that I am who the Lord has appointed as his anointed prophet at this time.

Shiloh is the individual from the tribe of Joseph who has the birthright who is to gather the tribes of Israel.

How do we know that God appointed you and that you didn't appoint yourself?

[bluebell]

11 hours ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I get the "by their fruits ye shall know them" distinction, and I certainly do encourage you to comply with this.

In so doing you should be willing to admit that the unique perspective that I bring is one of the most important fruits that you can sample.  I teach things that are a completely new paradigm.  This means at the very least that I deserve credit for entirely unique and original thought.  A rarity these days.

If we have to give credit to you for these unique and original thoughts, why would we believe they are from God?

[ProphetShiloh]

17 hours ago, let’s roll said:

From a guy who says he’s not running for prophet, declaring that the first thing you would do as prophet is cut tithing sounds very much like a candidate for political office promising to cut taxes.  That said, I suppose your statement that tithing can be avoided altogether if one always spends more than they make will be appealing to some.

Clarification:
I said I would restore tithing to the correct manner it is intended by the Lord to be implemented.  Tithing is an inseparable component of the law of consecration.  Trying to separate it out is a corruption that leads to the people being oppressed severely.

If anyone lives lavishly to avoid paying a tithe, which I already touched on, then they squander their own inheritance.  Their reward is with them.

[ProphetShiloh]

8 hours ago, bluebell said:

How do we know that God appointed you and that you didn't appoint yourself?

The advice of Jesus is to humble yourself before God and be as a child to be sure that you aren't blinding yourself with pride when it comes to qualifying to be received into the Father's Kingdom. 

The "Moroni Promise" of the Book of Mormon is a universal principle when it comes to discerning what is of God.  I recommend that you employ it where the revelatory materials of me and my predecessor are concerned.

If I have indeed opened the book sealed with seven seals, then I am the Branch prophet from the Root of Jesse/David.  Now you get to investigate it for yourself and see if it adds up according to the word of God or not.  If you measure what I teach against the precepts of men, then you will fail to perceive the light that I offer.

This is the time and season that we are in.  The time of the Gentiles expired in conjunction with the expiration of the 2,730 year judgment against the tribes of Israel.  It expired in the year 2008.

D&C 45
28 And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;
29 But they receive it not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.
30 And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
31 And there shall be men standing in that generation, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land.
32 But my disciples shall stand in holy places, and shall not be moved; but among the wicked, men shall lift up their voices and curse God and die.

What I offer is the light that shall redeem Zion back to the fullness of the laws and principles of the celestial kingdom.

[Tacenda]

11 minutes ago, ProphetShiloh said:

The advice of Jesus is to humble yourself before God and be as a child to be sure that you aren't blinding yourself with pride when it comes to qualifying to be received into the Father's Kingdom. 

The "Moroni Promise" of the Book of Mormon is a universal principle when it comes to discerning what is of God.  I recommend that you employ it where the revelatory materials of me and my predecessor are concerned.

If I have indeed opened the book sealed with seven seals, then I am the Branch prophet from the Root of Jesse/David.  Now you get to investigate it for yourself and see if it adds up according to the word of God or not.  If you measure what I teach against the precepts of men, then you will fail to perceive the light that I offer.

This is the time and season that we are in.  The time of the Gentiles expired in conjunction with the expiration of the 2,730 year judgment against the tribes of Israel.  It expired in the year 2008.

D&C 45
28 And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;
29 But they receive it not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.
30 And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
31 And there shall be men standing in that generation, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land.
32 But my disciples shall stand in holy places, and shall not be moved; but among the wicked, men shall lift up their voices and curse God and die.

What I offer is the light that shall redeem Zion back to the fullness of the laws and principles of the celestial kingdom.

Do you believe in bringing back polygamy and does Ron Lafferty ring a bell?

Edited November 15, 2021 by Tacenda

[ProphetShiloh]

9 hours ago, bluebell said:

If we have to give credit to you for these unique and original thoughts, why would we believe they are from God?

I don't recall attempting to say that my presentation of new and original thought is a conclusive proof that I am from God.

I simply meant to draw attention to the fact that new and original thought is rare and that it certainly should be characteristic of paradigm shifting intelligence that comes from God.  It certainly was true of the ministry of Joseph Smith, Jr.

There are many who claim to be prophets or messiahs, but they don't actually have anything substantial in terms of light and truth to transform this world into a better place.  If they don't have anything to offer from the book sealed with seven seals, then they have no business claiming to be the messiah.

[ProphetShiloh]

12 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Do you believe in bringing back polygamy and does Ron Lafferty ring a bell?

God never revoked celestial plural marriage, so there is no need to "bring it back".

With regard to what needs to happen:
The policy of the Second Manifesto of 1904 needs to be repealed.
The laws of the land that prohibit plural marriage need to be repealed.
Then the First Manifesto needs to be repealed.

Yes, the name Ron Lafferty rings a bell.  He was a great source of trouble for the Prophet Onias.  The Lafferty brothers presented their revelations to the School of the Prophets under the Prophet Onias and their revelations were rejected.  Things were very tense for a time.  The Prophet Onias believed that his life was also in danger.  The School was very cooperative with the authorities and helped bring forward the evidence that was necessary to convict these individuals of their crimes.

Edited November 15, 2021 by ProphetShiloh

[bluebell]

40 minutes ago, ProphetShiloh said:

The advice of Jesus is to humble yourself before God and be as a child to be sure that you aren't blinding yourself with pride when it comes to qualifying to be received into the Father's Kingdom. 

The "Moroni Promise" of the Book of Mormon is a universal principle when it comes to discerning what is of God.  I recommend that you employ it where the revelatory materials of me and my predecessor are concerned.

If I have indeed opened the book sealed with seven seals, then I am the Branch prophet from the Root of Jesse/David.  Now you get to investigate it for yourself and see if it adds up according to the word of God or not.  If you measure what I teach against the precepts of men, then you will fail to perceive the light that I offer.

This is the time and season that we are in.  The time of the Gentiles expired in conjunction with the expiration of the 2,730 year judgment against the tribes of Israel.  It expired in the year 2008.

D&C 45
28 And when the times of the Gentiles is come in, a light shall break forth among them that sit in darkness, and it shall be the fulness of my gospel;
29 But they receive it not; for they perceive not the light, and they turn their hearts from me because of the precepts of men.
30 And in that generation shall the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
31 And there shall be men standing in that generation, that shall not pass until they shall see an overflowing scourge; for a desolating sickness shall cover the land.
32 But my disciples shall stand in holy places, and shall not be moved; but among the wicked, men shall lift up their voices and curse God and die.

What I offer is the light that shall redeem Zion back to the fullness of the laws and principles of the celestial kingdom.

If I ever come across those revelatory materials then I will keep this in mind.

[bluebell]

20 minutes ago, ProphetShiloh said:

God never revoked celestial plural marriage, so there is no need to "bring it back".

With regard to what needs to happen:
The policy of the Second Manifesto of 1904 needs to be repealed.
The laws of the land that prohibit plural marriage need to be repealed.
Then the First Manifesto needs to be repealed.

Yes, the name Ron Lafferty rings a bell.  He was a great source of trouble for the Prophet Onias.  The Lafferty brothers presented their revelations to the School of the Prophets under the Prophet Onias and their revelations were rejected.  Things were very tense for a time.  The Prophet Onias believed that his life was also in danger.  The School was very cooperative with the authorities and helped bring forward the evidence that was necessary to convict these individuals of their crimes.

You are connected to the same group the Laffertys were connected to?

[bluebell]

27 minutes ago, ProphetShiloh said:

I don't recall attempting to say that my presentation of new and original thought is a conclusive proof that I am from God.

I simply meant to draw attention to the fact that new and original thought is rare and that it certainly should be characteristic of paradigm shifting intelligence that comes from God.  It certainly was true of the ministry of Joseph Smith, Jr.

There are many who claim to be prophets or messiahs, but they don't actually have anything substantial in terms of light and truth to transform this world into a better place.  If they don't have anything to offer from the book sealed with seven seals, then they have no business claiming to be the messiah.

Agreed.  Where we disagree is that I don't see your claims as being any different than theirs.

[Tacenda]

1 hour ago, ProphetShiloh said:

God never revoked celestial plural marriage, so there is no need to "bring it back".

With regard to what needs to happen:
The policy of the Second Manifesto of 1904 needs to be repealed.
The laws of the land that prohibit plural marriage need to be repealed.
Then the First Manifesto needs to be repealed.

Yes, the name Ron Lafferty rings a bell.  He was a great source of trouble for the Prophet Onias.  The Lafferty brothers presented their revelations to the School of the Prophets under the Prophet Onias and their revelations were rejected.  Things were very tense for a time.  The Prophet Onias believed that his life was also in danger.  The School was very cooperative with the authorities and helped bring forward the evidence that was necessary to convict these individuals of their crimes.

Thanks for the quick replies! I guess there are many "prophets", heck even I can say I'm one, if I feel like I'm getting some kind of spiritual manifestation.

Or maybe not according to this article: https://www.liveson.org/can-anyone-prophet/

Edited November 15, 2021 by Tacenda

[ProphetShiloh]

1 hour ago, bluebell said:

You are connected to the same group the Laffertys were connected to?

The involvement of the Lafferty brothers with the Prophet Onias and his School of the Prophets wasn't especially long-standing.  The fiasco involving them took place back in the 80's.  I didn't have association with the Prophet Onias until 2008.

When we were working on the spiritual healing of the body of Seth, there were many traumas involving the Lafferty brothers.  They caused great harm in what they did.

[Chum]

For those playing at home, Shiloh is a practicing polygamist. It isn't clear why he isn't being clear about it. DM me if you want any blanks filled in. Calm may know more than I do - because she usually does.

[ProphetShiloh]

41 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Thanks for the quick replies! I guess there are many "prophets", heck even I can say I'm one, if I feel like I'm getting some kind of spiritual manifestation.

Or maybe not according to this article: https://www.liveson.org/can-anyone-prophet/

There are indeed many who can be prophets and prophetesses.  The oracles of Onias lament that the Church doesn't recognize this as an office that people should be given when someone manifests the gift of prophecy.

While there are many who can have and righteously use the gift of prophecy, there is only one who is the Lord's Anointed Prophet.  Unfortunately, this is a distinction that many people don't really understand that well.

The School of the Prophets and its companion the School of the Prophetesses are specifically to help guide and assist righteous and worthy men and women to develop their spiritual gifts and abilities.

[ProphetShiloh]

1 minute ago, Chum said:

For those playing at home, Shiloh is a practicing polygamist. It isn't clear why he isn't being clear about it. DM me if you want any blanks filled in. Calm may know more than I do - because she usually does.

I was practicing it but my first wife passed away last year.