Powerful or manipulative Prayer methods?

[Atheist Mormon]

15 hours ago, The Nehor said:

Sometimes yes, but usually I talk back.

Yeah...Hah...Don't go too far...Otherwise we have to institutionalize you.....😁

 

[The Nehor]

10 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said:

Yeah...Hah...Don't go too far...Otherwise we have to institutionalize you.....😁

 

There are plenty of more pressing reasons to institutionalize me. 

[Scott Lloyd]

On 6/4/2018 at 1:32 PM, nuclearfuels said:

Jarom 1:11-12

Wherefore, the prophets, and the priests, and the ^ateachers, did labor diligently, exhorting with all long-suffering the people to ^bdiligence; teaching the ^clawof Moses, and the intent for which it was given; persuading them to ^dlook forward unto the Messiah, and believe in him to come ^eas though he already was. 

Alma 40:8 - ...all is as oneday with God, and time only is measured unto men.

Seems like the BoM has examples of Nephites believing spiritual and physical/temporal/earthly events of the future to have already occurred.

If a person prayed and said:

"I thank Thee, God, for blessing me with x" and x had not yet been given to the person but he/she had faith, total faith, that it woudl be given - woudl that be a powerful prayer or a manipulative prayer, where the perosn i stryign to manipulate or pressure God?

 

 

Please see the Bible Dictionary entry on prayer which makes the point that prayer is not properly understood as an effort to change the will of God, but rather, a means of securing for oneself and others blessings that God is already willing to grant but are made conditional upon one’s asking for them. 

Prayer is a divinely directed process of unification whereby the mind of God and the mind of the petitioner are brought into agreement. 

For that reason it will not do to try to alter God’s divine will, be it through prayer or any other means. 

Edited June 9, 2018 by Scott Lloyd