Jeanne Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 2 hours ago, poptart said: I used to have Interesting conversations with saints over things like this, the world has almost always been this way, it's just that as a people the usa has had it so good for so long. Look at Europe, the amount of time that they've been at each others throats and murdered millions is beyond count. Look at us society, we go out of our way to screw people to the point where they're in jail, homeless, etc. Big suprise they act the way they do when the law and society pushes someone to the point where they may as well kill themselves, like any cornered animal they lash out violently. As it is we may see someone like Spencer (the guy from Charlottesville) as president someday because no one can get along anymore. Question I have is when push comes to shove how bad will it get before things change, or will we destroy our country first? I think the key to this..(and it is sometimes hard) is to keep ourselves and the way we live our own life,, somehow separate from the world. Not ignoring it..still face realities..but to have our own set of goals and morals that we can be a success at. Who knows..one small thing could make a huge change in just one person's life...in many ways, you have inspired me...
poptart Posted October 26, 2017 Author Posted October 26, 2017 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: Please do not do that to a poor train conductor. Meh, atleast I could cause some misery before I expire.
Tacenda Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 5 hours ago, The Nehor said: No, he also had a child with her and the baby survived. I'm so sorry about this. What is wrong with people?
Garden Girl Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, The Nehor said: I have seen it work too often to worry about it. Plus at this point if I do marry odds are good that (for better or worse) I will be a stepdad. Hello Nehor... My mom was wonderful, with high standards... she was a convert when I was a toddler... my bio father had run off and left us (at a time when divorced women were looked down upon)... Mom hardly ever brought men into the home... she did date occasionally, and then it was someone from Church. Finally a Campfire friend told her about her husband's brother who was divorced with custody of his daughter. Mom met him and they dated for almost two years. A fine, honorable man... they married when I was nine years old... he converted when I was 13. and a year later we were in the Salt Lake temple where my sis and I were sealed to our mom and stepdad... we loved that good man until the day he died at age 88... I look forward to our eternal family... GG Edited October 26, 2017 by Garden Girl
Stargazer Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 7 hours ago, poptart said: Curious, we're the kids His? Hope he gets put in general population, he'll get his. This is one reason why I've always thought dating someone who's childless when you have kids is a horrible idea, my father was horrible to my half brothers and pretty much everyone I knew from a blended family had similar experiences. Bottom line unless they have kids you're taking a big gamble, as a rule people hate kids that aren't theirs, that's life. Fyi, in my line of work I've seen quite a bit of murder suicides involving girlfriends and kids, amazing how little of that gets reported. Surely, not everyone you knew from a blended family had similar experiences? Wow, that's a concentration of badness. I have a very different experience. My family's history has quite a number of "step-" and "half-" situations going. It seems like none of these ever caused problems. The only problem situation I know about was my great grandaunt rejecting one of her full sons because he didn't look sufficiently "Indian" (she was half Native American), and gave him someone else in the family to raise. He turned out OK, by the way, despite this. My father's second wife had two children, and although they were older and one already married by the time of that marriage, he always treated them as well as if they were his. My stepmother treated my brother and I as her own, as well. When I married my second, now late, wife, she had seven children. I've tried my best to treat them as my own, and she treated my children as well as her own, as well. Our three children together have always been accepted and well-treated by their half-siblings in both sides of the family, and vice-versa. I wouldn't want you to think that there never were problems between them, but what problems that did occur were not a result of being half- or step-. I just don't think it is as big a problem as you think; and hate is kind of strong, isn't it? My sister's husband has never had children of his own, but when he married her, she had two sons. Far from hating them, he adopted them and treated them in every way as his own flesh and blood.
3DOP Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 On 10/24/2017 at 8:43 AM, poptart said: Or get a pope like this... If it is permitted, I withdraw my wary endorsement. He seems zealous...and bitter. He seems forceful for what I believe, and that draws me powerfully. But he seems to lack the tenderness necessary to carry out the mission. I know it is acting. It reminds me of All in the Family. Conservatives once (in the 70's) thought Archie was great for what he believed. Truth alone is not enough. I once enjoyed it, but I now hate All in the Family because they deliberately mixed truth with ugliness and hate. And I think I hate this fiction too. Truth without love is only slightly better than error without love. It is still death.
The Nehor Posted October 26, 2017 Posted October 26, 2017 2 hours ago, poptart said: Meh, atleast I could cause some misery before I expire. Write some bad poetry instead. Also causes misery but is not as messy. 1 hour ago, Tacenda said: I'm so sorry about this. What is wrong with people? I have no idea why he did this. Pretty sure it does not justify it though. 46 minutes ago, Garden Girl said: Hello Nehor... My mom was wonderful, with high standards... she was a convert when I was a toddler... my bio father had run off and left us (at a time when divorced women were looked down upon)... Mom hardly ever brought men into the home... she did date occasionally, and then it was someone from Church. Finally a Campfire friend told her about her husband's brother who was divorced with custody of his daughter. Mom met him and they dated for almost two years. A fine, honorable man... they married when I was nine years old... he converted when I was 13. and a year later we were in the Salt Lake temple where my sis and I were sealed to our mom and stepdad... we loved that good man until the day he died at age 88... I look forward to our eternal family... GG Yeah, I am not as pessimistic as poptart......at least, not usually.
poptart Posted October 26, 2017 Author Posted October 26, 2017 11 hours ago, Stargazer said: Surely, not everyone you knew from a blended family had similar experiences? Wow, that's a concentration of badness. I have a very different experience. My family's history has quite a number of "step-" and "half-" situations going. It seems like none of these ever caused problems. The only problem situation I know about was my great grandaunt rejecting one of her full sons because he didn't look sufficiently "Indian" (she was half Native American), and gave him someone else in the family to raise. He turned out OK, by the way, despite this. My father's second wife had two children, and although they were older and one already married by the time of that marriage, he always treated them as well as if they were his. My stepmother treated my brother and I as her own, as well. When I married my second, now late, wife, she had seven children. I've tried my best to treat them as my own, and she treated my children as well as her own, as well. Our three children together have always been accepted and well-treated by their half-siblings in both sides of the family, and vice-versa. I wouldn't want you to think that there never were problems between them, but what problems that did occur were not a result of being half- or step-. I just don't think it is as big a problem as you think; and hate is kind of strong, isn't it? My sister's husband has never had children of his own, but when he married her, she had two sons. Far from hating them, he adopted them and treated them in every way as his own flesh and blood. Tbh, yes actually. I can say everyone I knew from a blended family had a horrible experience, that's just been my life. Personally when my own becomes too much I like the idea of my own end inconveniencing as many people as possible, very very few gave a damn. Will say, about half the few were lds.
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