Julie Rowe

[bluebell]

With the eclipse yesterday and all that went with it, I was looking to see what end-of-the-world predictions other people had been sharing online and it reminded me of her.  I tried to check out her website to see what new stuff she was up to and her website's not opening.  I also couldn't even find it listed when i searched her name on Google and I had to find it listed on her wikipedia page.  

All of this made me wonder, is she still out and about giving firesides and telling people to prepare for tent cities and all of that?  Does anyone know what she's up to?

[Duncan]

3 minutes ago, bluebell said:

With the eclipse yesterday and all that went with it, I was looking to see what end-of-the-world predictions other people had been sharing online and it reminded me of her.  I tried to check out her website to see what new stuff she was up to and her website's not opening.  I also couldn't even find it listed when i searched her name on Google and I had to find it listed on her wikipedia page.  

All of this made me wonder, is she still out and about giving firesides and telling people to prepare for tent cities and all of that?  Does anyone know what she's up to?

She has a youtube channel that was updated 4 days ago. It looks like the latest upload is "the Message" so , I don't know what that is but hey!

[Guest]

8 minutes ago, bluebell said:

With the eclipse yesterday and all that went with it, I was looking to see what end-of-the-world predictions other people had been sharing online and it reminded me of her.  I tried to check out her website to see what new stuff she was up to and her website's not opening.  I also couldn't even find it listed when i searched her name on Google and I had to find it listed on her wikipedia page.  

All of this made me wonder, is she still out and about giving firesides and telling people to prepare for tent cities and all of that?  Does anyone know what she's up to?

I have seen nothing, there is a cool story on LDS.NET or Mormonhub. There is an article about the eclipse and other things happening over the next few weeks, with alignments of the planets. I'll hope over and check and come back to add...

Her name is Gale Boyd, she is a Jewish covert, and approaches the topic from that standpoint. Good read! 

Edited August 22, 2017 by Bill "Papa" Lee

[rongo]

I think she has really pulled back, bluebell. Although, she is kind of manic (i.e., up and down) with her motivation and zeal, and it fluctuates. 

She lives (lived?) down in Tucson, but they appeared to have disappeared from their home for a time. I think they might have been lying low and trying to get out of the limelight. She's liable to "get the itch" to get attention again. It makes me sad, because there is obviously mental illness at play, and the worst thing for her is to get attention and have that reinforced.

I wonder to what extent her stake president on up talked to her and told her to stop? Her influence was such that such a thing wouldn't surprise me. 

[ALarson]

39 minutes ago, bluebell said:

With the eclipse yesterday and all that went with it, I was looking to see what end-of-the-world predictions other people had been sharing online and it reminded me of her.  I tried to check out her website to see what new stuff she was up to and her website's not opening.  I also couldn't even find it listed when i searched her name on Google and I had to find it listed on her wikipedia page.  

All of this made me wonder, is she still out and about giving firesides and telling people to prepare for tent cities and all of that?  Does anyone know what she's up to?

Here's the cache of a post she made mentioning the eclipse:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lCb4VSZCaT0J:julieroweprepare.com/podcasts-of-the-julie-rowe-show-coming-soon/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Quote:

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Just wanted to let you know we have been working on developing audio podcasts and the first one will be released this coming Friday, May 26, 2017.

The first podcast on The Julie Rowe Show is titled, “The Wasatch Wakeup”

The second one will be released a week from Friday and in it we discuss signs in the heavens, Revelations 12, the planets aligning and the Eclipse in August, as well as some other things.

 

 

[Tacenda]

2 minutes ago, ALarson said:

Here's the cache of a post she made mentioning the eclipse:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:lCb4VSZCaT0J:julieroweprepare.com/podcasts-of-the-julie-rowe-show-coming-soon/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

Quote:

Oh brother, does she ever answer why her predictions/premonitions etc. don't come to pass? I will be listening/cringing to the podcast coming up, thanks for finding the link. 

 

[Calm]

I remember seeing her listed on a conference recently, but she is much quieter these days.  She is, I believe, living in Kansas on some donated property.  They were supposedly going to develop the area into some sort of compound headquarters for her disaster prep group.  She and a few associates started a foundation to help in emergencies.  I think the property was supposed to be owned by the Foundation, but don't know if that plan got put into effect because the Foundation doesn't seem to have gotten off the ground.  I heard reports where she was pushing people to donate to that rather than the Church claiming they would be handing out stuff on a nondenominational basis...as if the Church doesn't.  It was really turning off the prepper crowd.  Someone reported she also got a salary from the group, but the 2016 tax report wasn't up last month or so when I checked.

Her blog appeared at that time to be quotes or links to positive sayings or one liners from her.  There were a lot of glitches.  I am thinking whoever had been helping her with it stopped volunteering.

Someone reviewed her third book and said it was just a combination of the first two from a more generic Christian stance.

Edited August 22, 2017 by Calm

[stemelbow]

debate:

Rongo:  She lives (lived?) down in Tucson

Calm:  She is, I believe, living in Kansas on some donated property

I don't have anything to add.  I thought there was some Church statement made that was at least indirectly made about her and that caused her to quiet down.  But, I always get things mixed up...might have been something else and I ain't up to looking it up. 

[clarkgoble]

15 minutes ago, stemelbow said:

I don't have anything to add.  I thought there was some Church statement made that was at least indirectly made about her and that caused her to quiet down.  But, I always get things mixed up...might have been something else and I ain't up to looking it up. 

I thought Elder Oaks took a trip to her stake or something like that. I know there was a Church statement but I think it was more targeting CES teachers.

Edited August 22, 2017 by clarkgoble

[Calm]

4 hours ago, stemelbow said:

debate:

Rongo:  She lives (lived?) down in Tucson

Calm:  She is, I believe, living in Kansas on some donated property

I don't have anything to add.  I thought there was some Church statement made that was at least indirectly made about her and that caused her to quiet down.  But, I always get things mixed up...might have been something else and I ain't up to looking it up. 

Wasn't indirectly.  Her first book was put on the "spurious materials" list, banned from use in CES classes.  That didn't cause her to quiet down though....she has two other books since then (though the report is they are pretty much repeats).  She just claimed that meant only official manuals were to be used in seminary, iirc.  She was never one who claimed to preempt the Priesthood authority line, unlike Spencer who claimed in his visions he was doing a parallel authority thing to the point he ends up with an office next to Christ in the temple after the second coming.

You can also surmise she was banned from speaking in church settings, as there were a few canceled appearances and then changing venues from churches to rental halls or homes.  I think this happened around Feb 2015, but it could have 2014 with my memory blurring the past 2 1/2 years together.

Much more likely the reason she went quiet was several failed prophecies (earthquakes....one was supposed to happen late spring 2015  and then another in late Sept 2015...corrected recall; she claims she wasn't so specific, that people read the dates into her stuff, but in my opinion she was too specific claiming things were going to happen in weeks or during the harvest moon or some significant event like that), including some that caused people to sell their homes and buy trailers, etc. for the alleged imminent move to tent cities.  People aren't happy with her Foundation either as it appears to be set up to allow her to live off of others' donations.  

She also claimed the whole thing was going down while Obama was in office, iirc, or that he was going to declare martial law and refuse to step down..inviting the UN including North Koreans to come in to keep order (she likely borrowed that from Spencer, the idea that .North Koreans have enough military might to not only keep their own country from going into rebellion, but pretty much take over the US as well is ludicrous, of course, but they make for an easy, inoffensive bad guy these days).

edited to change dates

Edited August 22, 2017 by Calm

[stemelbow]

29 minutes ago, Calm said:

Wasn't indirectly.  Her first book was put on the "spurious materials" list, banned from use in CES classes.  That didn't cause her to quiet down though....she has two other books since then (though the report is they are pretty much repeats).  She just claimed that meant only official manuals were to be used in seminary, iirc.  She was never one who claimed to preempt the Priesthood authority line, unlike Spencer who claimed in his visions he was doing a parallel authority thing to the point he ends up with an office next to Christ in the temple after the second coming.

You can also surmise she was banned from speaking in church settings, as there were a few canceled appearances and then changing venues from churches to rental halls or homes.  I think this happened around Feb 2015.

Much more likely the reason she went quiet was several failed prophecies (earthquakes....one was supposed to happen late spring 2016 iirc and then another in October; she claims she wasn't so specific, that people read the dates into her stuff, but in my opinion she was too specific claiming things were going to happen in weeks or during the harvest moon or some significant event like that), including some that caused people to sell their homes and buy trailers, etc. for the alleged imminent move to tent cities.  People aren't happy with her Foundation either as it appears to be set up to allow her to live off of others' donations.  

She also claimed the whole thing was going down while Obama was in office, iirc, or that he was going to declare martial law and refuse to step down..inviting the UN including North Koreans to come in to keep order (she likely borrowed that from Spencer, the idea that .North Koreans have enough military might to not only keep their own country from going into rebellion, but pretty much take over the US as well is ludicrous, of course, but they make for an easy, inoffensive bad guy these days).

If you are correct in all of this its a wonder she got a following as she did/does. 

[stemelbow]

46 minutes ago, clarkgoble said:

I thought Elder Oaks took a trip to her stake or something like that. I know there was a Church statement but I think it was more targeting CES teachers.

I could see that.  "I'll go take care of this toots right now." 

[Calm]

27 minutes ago, stemelbow said:

If you are correct in all of this its a wonder she got a following as she did/does. 

My opinion....her stuff was a collection of others' previous stuff so there was a built in acceptance of many of her claims.

She also played off a lot of bigotry, confirming with her visions people were right to be fearful of .....

And she made it happening quite soon (in her visions her young children were still young, iirc she speculated a three year deadline).  People liked the idea it was happening NOW rather than in the vague future.  Pontius and Spencer had already ramped up the community but kept it vague timewise and there was a void with Pontius' death.  She stepped into it.

Her publisher, Daybell, is very involved in the prepper community.  He knows, in my opinion, what sells.

Edited August 22, 2017 by Calm

[bluebell]

I thought it was odd that her website was down.  I don't check it out very often but every few months i'll check in to see what she's up to and this was the first time it's been a blank page.  They're still hosting the domain apparently so maybe they're working on getting it back up again.

 

[RevTestament]

6 hours ago, bluebell said:

With the eclipse yesterday and all that went with it, I was looking to see what end-of-the-world predictions other people had been sharing online and it reminded me of her.  I tried to check out her website to see what new stuff she was up to and her website's not opening.  I also couldn't even find it listed when i searched her name on Google and I had to find it listed on her wikipedia page.  

All of this made me wonder, is she still out and about giving firesides and telling people to prepare for tent cities and all of that?  Does anyone know what she's up to?

Oh, my heck... Her website is down!! This is definite proof that the end is nigh, and the conspiratorial forces are out to silence her warnings.....

[Duncan]

13 minutes ago, RevTestament said:

Oh, my heck... Her website is down!! This is definite proof that the end is nigh, and the conspiratorial forces are out to silence her warnings.....

same thing happened to Taylor Swift! maybe she is coming out with new material?

[Calm]

It is possible her domain expired and has not been renewed:

"Updated Date: 05-may-2016
Creation Date: 05-may-2016
Expiration Date: 05-may-2017"

It says it is available here:

https://shop.whois.com/domain-registration/index.php

" julieroweprepared.com
is available"

[Calm]

Policy letter issued as well as spurious materials citation:

http://www.heraldextra.com/news/local/lds/lds-church-releases-statement-on-blood-moon-speculation/article_53a60c25-0597-519e-823a-d31f84f709f1.html

The date was Sep 2015...I lost a year somewhere.  Could have sworn that was last year.

[Calm]

She apparently had a speaking engagement in July, gotthis off of google so can't link:

"First Speaking Event in Two Years | Julie Rowe

Julie Rowe › first-speaking-event-in-two-...

Hi Friends,. Color My Media is hosting a unique event at the Rexburg, Idaho Tabernacle on July 15th, 2017. This will be my first public appearance in two years, along with some other gifted and talented people."

[bluebell]

1 hour ago, RevTestament said:

Oh, my heck... Her website is down!! This is definite proof that the end is nigh, and the conspiratorial forces are out to silence her warnings.....

 

[bluebell]

35 minutes ago, Calm said:

She apparently had a speaking engagement in July, gotthis off of google so can't link:

"First Speaking Event in Two Years | Julie Rowe

Julie Rowe › first-speaking-event-in-two-...

Hi Friends,. Color My Media is hosting a unique event at the Rexburg, Idaho Tabernacle on July 15th, 2017. This will be my first public appearance in two years, along with some other gifted and talented people."

So no one posted anything about it after it was over?

[Calm]

Not that I can find yet...

but about her more recent podcasts from the ldsfreedom forum:

 

"Spider wrote: ↑

Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:41 pm

"Is anyone here listening to JR's podcasts?"

I've listened to most of them. They are horrifying.  

So much false doctrine I can't begin to list it, tin-foil hat conspiracies, she back-tracks a ton, more encounters with evil spirits, Isaiah is a new spirit guide, she talks w animals, she talked to Jesus at 3 yrs old, she's now had DOZENS of NDEs, emotion code, she was "triggered" by the Wonder Woman movie (i.e. she has special powers from the Divine that she is now realizing), the level of detail of future events is astounding--too bad John the Revelator or JS or Nephi, etc didn't see that much detail but I digress, She again copies material from VoG, SM, Edgar Casey and others, The City of Enoch is coming back to the Gulf of Mexico from where it was taken...BUT I must admit it was entertaining  "

and 

"I think I've listened to about five of them now.
I agree with Desertwonderer, she's really 'out there'--I'd say that's why they are entertaining, but for sure, alarming. As I've listened, things have struck me as strange, false etc, but I wasn't in a position to write them down to share here.  

One was about her seeing God and Jesus Christ too (like Joseph Smith jr) but she said she didn't share this in her book, because it was 'too sacred'. Yet, I'm listening to her share this information on an internet podcast???? So, how is it no longer 'too sacred' to share with the world but it was 'too sacred' to share with a few thousands readers? She's inconsistent. I think she shares this now because she believes it gives her credibility with her listeners.

Another was her criticizism of LDS members for only listening to their LDS prophets. I'll have to try to find the reference for where that one was--I don't remember which podcast it was, but to me it was a big red flag. Maybe someone else heard it and can tell which podcast it was on.

As Desert wonderer said, she borrows heavily from others. As I listened the thought came that she's not sharing anything I haven't already heard from other sources."

http://www.ldsfreedomforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=45594&start=60

"Regardless of whether she talks to the dead on a regular basis as she claims, or not, I've been listening to some of her podcasts. She is saying some things about the Church and its leaders, both past and present, and what they will be telling the members to do in the future and how they are going to be telling them, that shocks even me. She's stating adamantly that the Boston bombing was a false flag attack, and a few other wild statements, that are sure to bring the wrong kind of publicity to the Church and its members.

She's writing her fourth book now and is in the process of funding a documentary about her experiences. She's collecting money from various enterprises to fund her "Greater Tomorrow Relief Fund" to buy supplies for all the people who are going to be flooding into Utah, as if Deseret Industries and the other members won't help take care of these people. She states that the next earthquake in SLC is the catalyst that starts the tribulation which will last 7 years. I'm surprised she has not been disciplined by the Church for what she's doing. I think she has gone way over the line here.

Am I just an old fool who is jealous of her worldly success, or is something really wrong with what she is doing?"

"I'm concerned now about how much she has begun to sound more like a "Medium" on her podcasts than like a fellow LDS Sister who has had a spiritual experience, and how much self-promoting (self-aggrandizing) she is doing along with her push to solicit financial resources from her listeners for her GTRF. She's not just quoting scriptures or the words of the Prophets anymore, or paraphrasing the words of others who have written books about their NDEs prior to her books, she's accusing the Government, other Church members who disagree with her, and the "Gadiantons" of a slew of things that she probably can't prove, which reflects badly on her, as well as on the rest of the Church. I just wish someone in authority over her could have nipped this in the bud long before it got this far."

Edited August 23, 2017 by Calm

[Calm]

She has apparently switched to a pay to view private forum...or it may just be the AVOW site, but she is apparently still active there and now on YouTube:

"I finally got around to listening to her first podcast. She really warms up to her topic over time.

I wrote some notes while listening to it:

So 'John' is very 'active' in her life, tells her things often. He's clearly a spirit guide and not just for her one time NDE. She claims he is her ancestor.

She talks about her mission, her requirement to warn her neighbor, even if it brings attacks. She says of the attacks 'it will not stop me, it will not shut me up', yet, where is she posting? On a private pay to post forum and in a private section that requires an additional fee to read what she writes. Her claims are hollow when you see that she makes herself available only if it promotes her and her charity, books, fees, etc.

A lot of her podcast is a commercial, an opportunity to plug her books, her website, and so her charity.

Her interviewer describes his own feelings about her 'wasatch wakeup', how he's come to terms with the fact that it didn't happen. He thought it was going to be 'in the next couple of weeks' and he was 'excited' for it. When it didn't happen, he got 'shakey', now he's put it on a 'shelf' and he's now comforting himself with the belief that 'it's going to happen'...eventually. I suspect he's a good example of how others who believe her have settled this problem.

Julie spends a lot of time trying to explain away her giving a 'date', which she denies, but then implies she did. She's so contradictory, I think it's because she knows she's not telling the truth. She's says she was told by the Lord that he 'does give dates' and compares herself to Samuel the Lamanite. She's backtracking on her 'imminent' and trying to salvage her earthquake prediction. She blames people for making things up. I'd say she's referring to the time last year when she posted a date on her private website and then scrubbed it(because it didn't happen). Personally, I believe the people who said she did it. I don't believe her. I think she's recognizing that she has to 'fix' this problem so she can continue to be relevant. She's blaming the 'spirit' for telling her to say the word 'imminent'.  

At one point, she clearly misleads the audience because she is lying. She claims on that radio program that she said 'it could be a day, it could be a week, a month, it could be next year', No, she did not, I would have remembered that. She never said it could be a month or a year from then. Never. I believe she said it could be 'days'. Definitely no mention of a year.

She's always claiming that everything that she teaches comes from the other side. But, she also falls back on the excuse that when she's wrong or when she adds more to something, it's because she has more 'clarity'. She sounds like a medium.

She claims 'several' NDE's, and pain, that's how she's has the knowledge that she has. The wasatch wakeup is the beginning of the tribulations, the first domino and she claims 'seven years of tribulations', she claims seven years tribulations were spoken of by John the revelator. She claims these experiences 'just come' and she doesn't seek them. She claims she's dealt with this her whole life. I guess she's claiming to have live visions all the time and the dreams and visions she had ten years ago are now coming to pass.

She says the earthquake comes because his people haven't kept their covenants. God will 'wake people up'. So, Julie has joined other critics who claim that the LDS people who live on the wasatch front are wicked and this is why the earthquake happens.

opening of sixth seal--she's hedges on this, she won't say the wasatch earthquake is that one, but she claims two earthquakes, the large one 9.5 or 10 is shortly before foreign troops come and it's in the fall. So she's claiming two earthquakes, the first IS supposed to be in the spring, the second larger is in the fall. She's also claiming huge after shocks for a long time afterwards. The big one (9.5) she claims it will happen, the earliest, Fall of 2018, but not before.

Once again, she reiterated her prediction that with the earthquake, her 'story' goes viral all over the world, because she's given the predictions that no one else has, and they come true--so the world wakes up and pays attention to Julie Rowe. If this doesn't show Julie's true NEED to be taken seriously and to be honored and recognized (especially by her critics) as someone with prophetic gifts, I don't know what does.  

Claims she had a vision of a Utah earthquake in her teens and she saw all the temples in the valley. She saw thousands of people killed because they were caught off guard, not listening to 'this message' or 'another message' or not listening to the Prophet. She claims she's seen that big earthquake once a week for 20 years. She claims that her NDE made it clear they were two separate earthquakes. She seen the wasatch wakeup earthquake 1, 2 to five times a week for the last three years. Take the mirrors from above your bed off the walls so they don't fall on you and kill you.

Her fourth book is called 'Gifted for a purpose'--it's her biography that this 'eric' person is going to write.

The wasatch wakeup is no longer 'imminent' (even though she claims that the LORD told her to say that--she's not using 'imminent' anymore. Now she says she's been told it's 'right around the corner'....

I do sometimes wonder how her audience can ignore her inconsistencies. Just this little thing--I don't know about you, but if the Lord told me 'imminent' , I'd keep using that word no matter the criticism, but she doesn't, she wants to keep her audience and excuse her mistake--she thought the earthquake would come before the election, it was clear from her interview in May 2016. It didn't and so now she's doing what she can to change the narrative, to keep herself in the forefront of predicting and having an audience for her books, podcasts and money for her charity and her energy healing business and money from endorsements."

"btw in JR's last poscast she says she is in constant communication with both John the Revelator and Isaiah. She is also asking for people to donate houses to her relief fund in the ID area to be "safe houses" for when Chinese and Russian troops land on us soil."

Edited August 23, 2017 by Calm

[Kenngo1969]

12 hours ago, Calm said:

... The date was Sep 2015...I lost a year somewhere.  Could have sworn that was last year.

Is that you, Mrs. Van Winkle?  

[Kenngo1969]

12 hours ago, Calm said:

She apparently had a speaking engagement in July, gotthis off of google so can't link:

"First Speaking Event in Two Years | Julie Rowe

Julie Rowe › first-speaking-event-in-two-...

Hi Friends,. Color My Media is hosting a unique event at the Rexburg, Idaho Tabernacle on July 15th, 2017. This will be my first public appearance in two years, along with some other gifted and talented people."

Just to clarify, the Tabernacle now is owned by the city, so whatever you think of Julie Rowe (Personally, I think she's ) , no one is running afoul of the Church of Jesus Christ's direction that Julie Rowe events/non-Church-sanctioned events not occur on Church property.