LittleNipper Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 (edited) Holy, Holy, Holy: Edited June 10, 2017 by LittleNipper Complete version
mfbukowski Posted June 10, 2017 Posted June 10, 2017 Yep that is a great Catholic song. Beautiful melody certainly, well sung! But yes, God is "almighty" I suppose but we see him more as a Father than the "Lord God Almighty", though of course He IS that too. A lot of those royal images of God came out of the middle ages when kings were trying to take upon themselves the divine right to rule. And the Trinity part- meh. But of course there is one Godhead consisting of three persons. The repetitive part at the end kind of reminds me of the hypnotic repetition of Evangelical services, waving the hands and so forth. We worship more privately in tune with the spirit individually in our Sacrament meetings, no chanting etc, which is what the Evangelical services remind me of But yes, a beautiful song beautifully sung, yes indeed! 2
mfbukowski Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 The absolute best. Sibelius. Oh My Gosh- had to imagine anything more spiritual at least to me. 1
Bobbieaware Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, mfbukowski said: Yep that is a great Catholic song. Beautiful melody certainly, well sung! But yes, God is "almighty" I suppose but we see him more as a Father than the "Lord God Almighty", though of course He IS that too. A lot of those royal images of God came out of the middle ages when kings were trying to take upon themselves the divine right to rule. And the Trinity part- meh. But of course there is one Godhead consisting of three persons. The repetitive part at the end kind of reminds me of the hypnotic repetition of Evangelical services, waving the hands and so forth. We worship more privately in tune with the spirit individually in our Sacrament meetings, no chanting etc, which is what the Evangelical services remind me of But yes, a beautiful song beautifully sung, yes indeed! Before anyone posted a comment on this thread, and knowing a little about the original poster's history, I was going to be the first to comment by asking, "I presume it's just a matter of time before the next shoe is going to drop?" Edited June 11, 2017 by Bobbieaware 2
Okrahomer Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 42 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: The absolute best. Sibelius. Oh My Gosh- had to imagine anything more spiritual at least to me. Sibelius and Nephi: I'm with you! 2
MiserereNobis Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) This was filmed by friends of mine who do a good job of recording and uploading traditional Catholicism in my area. These men are in seminary and had just been ordained to the subdiaconate (one of the steps on the way to becoming a priest). I love this song, and this tone (i.e. version) is one of my favorites, though it is not used as often. (any flashbacks, Mark?). I'm blessed to be able to attend a chapel where the singing and chanting is excellent -- I have been to some truly terrible attempts. Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae;vita, dulcedo et spes nostra, salve.Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentesin hac lacrimarum valle. Eia ergo, advocata nostra, illos tuos misericordes oculos ad nos converte. Et Iesum, benedictum fructum ventris tui, nobis post hoc exsilium ostende. O clemens, o pia, o dulcis Virgo Maria. Translation: Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee to we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary. Edited June 11, 2017 by MiserereNobis 4
LittleNipper Posted June 11, 2017 Author Posted June 11, 2017 Be Still My Soul is one of most favorite of Christian Hymns. I feel this is a far more enlightening presentation: 4
mfbukowski Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, MiserereNobis said: This was filmed by friends of mine who do a good job of recording and uploading traditional Catholicism in my area. These men are in seminary and had just been ordained to the subdiaconate (one of the steps on the way to becoming a priest). I love this song, and this tone (i.e. version) is one of my favorites, though it is not used as often. (any flashbacks, Mark?). I'm blessed to be able to attend a chapel where the singing and chanting is excellent -- I have been to some truly terrible attempts. Salve, Regina, mater misericordiae;vita, dulcedo et spes nostra, salve.Ad te clamamus exsules filii Hevae.Ad te suspiramus gementes et flentesin hac lacrimarum valle. Eia ergo, advocata nostra, illos tuos misericordes oculos ad nos converte. Et Iesum, benedictum fructum ventris tui, nobis post hoc exsilium ostende. O clemens, o pia, o dulcis Virgo Maria. Translation: Hail, holy Queen, Mother of mercy, our life, our sweetness and our hope. To thee do we cry, poor banished children of Eve. To thee to we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn, then, most gracious advocate, thine eyes of mercy toward us, and after this, our exile, show unto us the blessed fruit of thy womb, Jesus. O clement, O loving, O sweet Virgin Mary. Oh my gosh, not fair. Tears.
Okrahomer Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, LittleNipper said: Be Still My Soul is one of most favorite of Christian Hymns. I feel this is a far more enlightening presentation: Absolutely gorgeous! Thanks for sharing that! Be Still My Soul is also included in the LDS Hymnal; but notice that while what I posted is based upon the same Sibelius piece (Finlandia); it has been set to a different poem which was written by John Tanner rather than Katharina von Schlegel. The Tanner poem is entitled I love the Lord. The inspiration for this poem comes from a section of scripture in the Book of Mormon which some call "the Psalm of Nephi." 1
RevTestament Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) Probably one of the most hauntingly beautiful songs I have ever run across - Samuel Barber's Agnus Dei. I post this version because I like all the music on the album - a little Mozart and Bach never hurts! Some traditional Catholic chant too: I have been toying with rewriting Little Lamb(Taverber's The Lamb) as a Church Hymn Edited June 11, 2017 by RevTestament 2
RevTestament Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 I know it's not Christmas but I like it: Can't decide which version I like.
Bernard Gui Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 9 hours ago, mfbukowski said: The absolute best. Sibelius. Oh My Gosh- had to imagine anything more spiritual at least to me. Try these on for size.... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-L_Yc-rWHv https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRXIiZ8bs0 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2-Bjp9jptbM https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IX1zicNRLmY 1
Hamba Tuhan Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 (edited) What the Elders and I sang in our sacrament meeting three Sundays ago: Apologies for the poor choice of accompanying images, but this is the clearest online recording I could find. Edited June 11, 2017 by Hamba Tuhan 3
Jeanne Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 These all gave me goosebumps on the inside. Thank you. 2
RevTestament Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Hamba Tuhan said: What the Elders and I sang in our sacrament meeting three Sundays ago: Apologies for the poor choice of accompanying images, but this is the clearest online recording I could find. I would like to see the version you sang... 1
Hamba Tuhan Posted June 11, 2017 Posted June 11, 2017 1 hour ago, RevTestament said: I would like to see the version you sang... The hymn was exactly the same. I can't vouch for the quality, but a number of people said we sounded fantastic. So just imagine three missionaries from North America, two from South America, one ward missionary and me standing around the pulpit...
RevTestament Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) I was listening to some Ralph Vaughn Williams videos, and the automatic rotator put on this video of his variations of "Dives and Lazarus:" Some may recognize it right away. I particularly unmistakingly noted it at the 11:45 mark as the melody to Hie to Kolob. I didn't realize where it came from although the Church gives credit to Ralph Vaughn Williams for the melody, it is based on an old English folk tune. Anyway found that interesting. Perhaps it could found the basis for a long chorale piece/version of the hymn. Edited June 12, 2017 by RevTestament 1
MiserereNobis Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, RevTestament said: I was listening to some Ralph Vaughn Williams videos, and the automatic rotator put on this video of his variations of "Dives and Lazarus:" Some may recognize it right away. I particularly unmistakingly noted it at the 11:45 mark as the melody to Hie to Kolob. I didn't realize where it came from although the Church gives credit to Ralph Vaughn Williams for the melody, it is based on an old English folk tune. Anyway found that interesting. Perhaps it could found the basis for a long chorale piece/version of the hymn. I enjoy "Hie to Kolob." I had a thread about it here. The tune is magnificent (an English traditional, yes) and the lyrics are so unabashedly Mormon. 1
RevTestament Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 20 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said: I enjoy "Hie to Kolob." I had a thread about it here. The tune is magnificent (an English traditional, yes) and the lyrics are so unabashedly Mormon. My guess is Kolob has some yet unrevealed, ancient meaning which will be revelatory. I don't necessarily take it as a literal star, but something setting an order of things here on earth after the order of heaven/Kolob - similar to the language of the Bible relating people to the stars and Yeshua to the Sun.
MiserereNobis Posted June 12, 2017 Posted June 12, 2017 4 minutes ago, RevTestament said: My guess is Kolob has some yet unrevealed, ancient meaning which will be revelatory. I don't necessarily take it as a literal star, but something setting an order of things here on earth after the order of heaven/Kolob - similar to the language of the Bible relating people to the stars and Yeshua to the Sun. Dante, one of the sublimest Catholic artists of the Middle Ages, ended his great Divine Comedy with the phrase that God is "the love that moves the sun and the other stars."
LittleNipper Posted June 12, 2017 Author Posted June 12, 2017 (edited) A Mighty Fortress is Our God: Edited June 12, 2017 by LittleNipper
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